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Old 04-29-2009, 08:49 PM
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Any idea how mods affect warranties?
yes, they definitely affect warranty
but only potentially
.. depending on the relation you have with your dealership
and they are more hazardous if you are usual to travel far from home
or you need to establish a .. network of relations

if you fear that and with your leasing company, better you stay stock
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I agree it depends on your dealership and your relationship with them. Some are more open to mods than others. The stage 1 package is considered a light mod and would suggest this to customers underwarranty. Some dealers see different wheels on your car and they might void your whole warranty and there are dealers that use a little common sense for example if you have aftermarket wheels on your car and you have a tpms issue they will not cover it obviously but if you have a tpms light and you have headers and a pulley kit, they would cover it because they are completely unrelated.
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I'd be very interested in the K1 Package ... so long as my dealer agrees it's not going to cause me any problems with warranty.
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Originally Posted by GMP - MATTHEW
I agree it depends on your dealership and your relationship with them. Some are more open to mods than others. The stage 1 package is considered a light mod and would suggest this to customers underwarranty. Some dealers see different wheels on your car and they might void your whole warranty and there are dealers that use a little common sense for example if you have aftermarket wheels on your car and you have a tpms issue they will not cover it obviously but if you have a tpms light and you have headers and a pulley kit, they would cover it because they are completely unrelated.
Matthew,

Back to the tune for CLS63, is there any better pricing you can offer than the aformentioned price? What happens when u go to dealer and diagnostics are run? Is the tune restored/cleared?

And to all the ppl regarding custom dyno tuning each car...I am sure its a better method but trust me, I have tuned 2 996TT and one 997TT with exhaust and chip from EVOMS and the results were simply remarkable and scray....I added 100hp to my 997TT(a previous 997TT coupe i had, not the current 997TT cab i own) with the evoms ecu tune and cargraphic exhaust and the car was scary fast

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The Kleemann Tuning will not be affected by the dealership diag service software. There is not extra discount on the software because its already the cheapest on the market. The headers are knocked down by $1500 as well even though they were still far more cheaper than renntech by a couple thousand. I am familiar with Evoms and the power capabilities of the porsche turbos. they get a lot hp but the think you notice most is the amount of tq increase which is what you feel and throws you back in your seat. The HP gains from the 63 is significant but the 63 engine is an NA high reving motor so dont expect it to toss you in your seat after the software and headers like your porsche does but you will notice more power but its smoother power almost too smoothe which is why it won't feel like your porsche. I hope this makes sense lol
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Originally Posted by GMP - MATTHEW
Lou,

The Kleemann Tuning will not be affected by the dealership diag service software. There is not extra discount on the software because its already the cheapest on the market. The headers are knocked down by $1500 as well even though they were still far more cheaper than renntech by a couple thousand. I am familiar with Evoms and the power capabilities of the porsche turbos. they get a lot hp but the think you notice most is the amount of tq increase which is what you feel and throws you back in your seat. The HP gains from the 63 is significant but the 63 engine is an NA high reving motor so dont expect it to toss you in your seat after the software and headers like your porsche does but you will notice more power but its smoother power almost too smoothe which is why it won't feel like your porsche. I hope this makes sense lol
Definately makes sense, I simply mentioned my 997TT tune to dispell the above post that w/o dyno tuning a car gains werent warranted when in fact its proven time and again they are..
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Definately makes sense, I simply mentioned my 997TT tune to dispell the above post that w/o dyno tuning a car gains werent warranted when in fact its proven time and again they are..
No not to be a@@ but you missed the point. I never said you wont get gains from a packaged software tune from so and so... but if your car stock put down 430rwhp for example while most every other CLS55 puts down 380rwhp stock its almost counter active. Kleemann, Renntech ect or even your 997 tuner they all dyno tune in their shop to get this software, respectively. Thus, it is based on an average or whatever car they used to tune for this software. Understand?

It's like taking supplements. A friend and I could both take the same supplements do the same work out but he could get better results because our bodies are different, though we are both just two dudes, his body processes the supplement better than mine.

Now my car for example, runs very lean... much more than average. what if the tuning package was designed around a car that wasn't lean like mine? See the problem? Basically it doesn't really matter, if you have shop local and your tuner is good like say dynocomp here in phx, then I wouldn't even play around with anything store bought... go try it out and you will be saying the same thing! ; )
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Actually every 997TT 07-08 engine is exactly the same and puts out the same horsepower. The only thing that varies is mileage and surrounding climates. Every CLS55 should be rated at the same horsepower unless there is a motor change or upgrade again except for mileage and surrounding climate which most ecu's usually adapt to anyway.

Regardless though guys this is a Kleemann Special post, lets try to keep it to kleemann related questions. Thanks for everyones input

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Originally Posted by hoolamonster
No not to be a@@ but you missed the point. I never said you wont get gains from a packaged software tune from so and so... but if your car stock put down 430rwhp for example while most every other CLS55 puts down 380rwhp stock its almost counter active. Kleemann, Renntech ect or even your 997 tuner they all dyno tune in their shop to get this software, respectively. Thus, it is based on an average or whatever car they used to tune for this software. Understand?

It's like taking supplements. A friend and I could both take the same supplements do the same work out but he could get better results because our bodies are different, though we are both just two dudes, his body processes the supplement better than mine.

Now my car for example, runs very lean... much more than average. what if the tuning package was designed around a car that wasn't lean like mine? See the problem? Basically it doesn't really matter, if you have shop local and your tuner is good like say dynocomp here in phx, then I wouldn't even play around with anything store bought... go try it out and you will be saying the same thing! ; )
I got your point, I understand what u meant definately...I was just saying that there are thosands if not tens of thousands of tuned Porsche's w/o being individually dyno tuned with good results...It would be safe to say that an anamoly car would simply get even more powerful with a tune? Increase boost and straighten torque curves should accomplish that...Now that said, your original point is very very true, of coarse dyno tuning your car is the ideal way, but not usually cost effective or possible
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Hey guys there is a slight change in price in the pulley kit, The correct price for the stage 1 is $2286. The price listed above is just for the pulley. I apologize for the mistake, everything else stays the same.
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There is no way , absolutely no possible way an ECU tune of the 63 will give you 65 crank hp.
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Originally Posted by GMP - MATTHEW
I think the Kleemann software has the best price already on the market. The headers are almost $1500. You should see 65hp at the crank with the Kleemann software.
do you have a 63 dyno showing a 65hp gain at the crank?
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These numbers are based from the C63 and I do have a dyno for that model. In that model the engine was detuned from Germany. I'm not 100% sure if the CLS is in the same boat with the C63 as far as being detuned but if it is, you should see these gains.
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Originally Posted by juicee63
do you have a 63 dyno showing a 65hp gain at the crank?
I think Kleemann qoutes 8-10% gain in hp and torque on N/A engines....I know evosport qoutes like 30ish hp gain and 41lb/ft for the 63 with their chip...65hp no way on the cls....

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What is the current price for the cams?
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55 Cams are $2195
Awesome should i call or use your online checkout on the website? Also i need a paddle shift steering wheel and a brembo brake setup what do you have?
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You can call me, I'm in the office. 888 488 2028 X 257

I can hook you up on the Brembo's as well. Kleemann has a leather steering wheel with shift buttons, is that what your referring too? They are $975. Those might have to be ordered from DK. If they are open this week they will be open in about 30 minutes. They are mountain time. Give me a call with your information or send me an email and I will put a package together.

Do you already have a K2 package?
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You can call me, I'm in the office. 888 488 2028 X 257

I can hook you up on the Brembo's as well. Kleemann has a leather steering wheel with shift buttons, is that what your referring too? They are $975. Those might have to be ordered from DK. If they are open this week they will be open in about 30 minutes. They are mountain time. Give me a call with your information or send me an email and I will put a package together.

Do you already have a K2 package?
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Im looking for the 07+ AMG style wheel or better. I will email you about the cams and brembo package.

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THe one in my signature is my direct one. Oh wait already already got it Thanks
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Originally Posted by GMP - MATTHEW
THe one in my signature is my direct one. Oh wait already already got it Thanks
LOL yeah i know i made a quick edit after i looked at your sig


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