Any other Twin Turbo CLS55's out there?
11-18-2013, 07:50 PM
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I'll gladly 2nd that the fabrication work on this project is first rate!! Beautiful work and impressive attention to detail. I'm really interested to see how this moves along now that it's almost time to start it up and begin tuning. What are you using to handle the tuning duties? I wasn't sure if this was something that could be done via flashing the stock ECU or if you went with an aftermarket EMS unit like a MoTek, Wolf 3D, Haltech, etc...
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11-21-2013, 06:54 PM
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11-22-2013, 12:21 PM
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WOW!!!!!!!!!! There really is nothing quite like the sound of spooling turbos. 
Very glad to see you got the car running and tuned. The numbers look good too. Most importantly the curves are really nice and smooth. That should be really useable power! Congrats man!
Very glad to see you got the car running and tuned. The numbers look good too. Most importantly the curves are really nice and smooth. That should be really useable power! Congrats man!
11-27-2013, 11:50 PM
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With forged pistons, if the 55 can't stand up to that kind of power, it's a sad day for man kind, considering a Ford could take 1K HP from a Whipple for over a year. The tranny on the other hand is in the air. The NAG1 in the WK1 was toast after 600 WHP if memory serves. If it fails, give Bill Shurr a call at Paramount Performance.
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11-28-2013, 10:36 AM
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With forged pistons, if the 55 can't stand up to that kind of power, it's a sad day for man kind, considering a Ford could take 1K HP from a Whipple for over a year. The tranny on the other hand is in the air. The NAG1 in the WK1 was toast after 600 WHP if memory serves. If it fails, give Bill Shurr a call at Paramount Performance.
11-28-2013, 02:47 PM
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11-28-2013, 02:48 PM
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11-29-2013, 04:41 AM
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Never read such a
A tranny is NEVER built for power!
A tranny is ALWAYS built for torque.
You can run every MB-engine with 1000hp on a W5A580-tranny, if torque is lower than 850Nm /620 lbf ft and it will be good for 100.000km/ 60.000mls. You just have to improve tranny oil cooling!!!
11-29-2013, 12:48 PM
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LOL!!!
Never read such a
A tranny is NEVER built for power!
A tranny is ALWAYS built for torque.
You can run every MB-engine with 1000hp on a W5A580-tranny, if torque is lower than 850Nm /620 lbf ft and it will be good for 100.000km/ 60.000mls. You just have to improve tranny oil cooling!!!
Never read such a
A tranny is NEVER built for power!
A tranny is ALWAYS built for torque.
You can run every MB-engine with 1000hp on a W5A580-tranny, if torque is lower than 850Nm /620 lbf ft and it will be good for 100.000km/ 60.000mls. You just have to improve tranny oil cooling!!!
11-30-2013, 10:34 AM
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No offense to the OP or his builder, but I wouln't be surprised to see it running a slower ET than stock, but with a higher trap speed on it's first outing.
The factory SC does wonders for getting heavy cars out of the hole, and the turbo's of course will need to be spooled up. It takes tweaking and sometimes nitrous and 2-steps to get an impressive 60' with heavy turbo'd cars. Just saying.
The factory SC does wonders for getting heavy cars out of the hole, and the turbo's of course will need to be spooled up. It takes tweaking and sometimes nitrous and 2-steps to get an impressive 60' with heavy turbo'd cars. Just saying.
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11-30-2013, 03:46 PM
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What you say is true - it will need dialing in, but this may not be the case for turbo in general. More torque at low end can just leave you spinning tires and breaking transmissions. Turbo power band is different, once it hits it should give bigger top end power since less parasitic loss. I would expect 50-100+ HP over S/C equivalent. Also with options to get boost at low end, this should not be an issue.
Subscribing .. I am interested in the numbers. Not sure why this should be an in-house only install. Looks easy unless you need to chop the frame.
I have been contemplating turbo for some time .. but after turbocharging all my other cars .. getting kind of tired of custom stuff .. .takes too long to build
This build looks great!
Subscribing .. I am interested in the numbers. Not sure why this should be an in-house only install. Looks easy unless you need to chop the frame.
I have been contemplating turbo for some time .. but after turbocharging all my other cars .. getting kind of tired of custom stuff .. .takes too long to build
This build looks great!
No offense to the OP or his builder, but I wouln't be surprised to see it running a slower ET than stock, but with a higher trap speed on it's first outing.
The factory SC does wonders for getting heavy cars out of the hole, and the turbo's of course will need to be spooled up. It takes tweaking and sometimes nitrous and 2-steps to get an impressive 60' with heavy turbo'd cars. Just saying.
The factory SC does wonders for getting heavy cars out of the hole, and the turbo's of course will need to be spooled up. It takes tweaking and sometimes nitrous and 2-steps to get an impressive 60' with heavy turbo'd cars. Just saying.
11-30-2013, 11:39 PM
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What you say is true - it will need dialing in, but this may not be the case for turbo in general. More torque at low end can just leave you spinning tires and breaking transmissions. Turbo power band is different, once it hits it should give bigger top end power since less parasitic loss. I would expect 50-100+ HP over S/C equivalent. Also with options to get boost at low end, this should not be an issue.
Subscribing .. I am interested in the numbers. Not sure why this should be an in-house only install. Looks easy unless you need to chop the frame.
I have been contemplating turbo for some time .. but after turbocharging all my other cars .. getting kind of tired of custom stuff .. .takes too long to build
This build looks great!
Subscribing .. I am interested in the numbers. Not sure why this should be an in-house only install. Looks easy unless you need to chop the frame.
I have been contemplating turbo for some time .. but after turbocharging all my other cars .. getting kind of tired of custom stuff .. .takes too long to build
This build looks great!
Track got pushed back to Sunday morning. I'll have results after the track day.
You wont miss the stock supercharger after you go TT. It actually makes the car easier to launch. From a light you can punch it and it'll accelerate to 3k rpms and then the thing just rockets forward. It just pulls and pulls and pulls...
Last edited by cls55tt; 11-30-2013 at 11:48 PM.
