viper

Will a C32 outrun a Corvette coupe ? Not the Z06 just the regular coupe.

Boo2

yes

jswedberg

I think this is one of those "it depends on the driver" things.

The standard Corvette coupe has very close to the same acceleration numbers as the C32

pocholin

You would have to have a better reaction time than the vette.
Also if it is a 6 speed vette and the guy really know to shift (which most of them don't) he will beat you
If it is an automatic, then you can probably go side to side, interesting match.

As long as it is a stock vette.

Genius1512

My dads got a c5 convertible with a six speed, but whenever I leave my c32's keys around he takes that instead. He insists that I will beat him but we never raced.

Vic55

I think the C32 will beat the C5 convertible due to the extra weight.

Fikse

its close... but no, a 6 speed C5 will win over the C32...... by about 2 cars or so..... I've raced two of em....

should be prety much even vs an automatic C5..... and the C32 should take the converts.....

Brooks

FrankW

it's all depends on the driver

TNH

The 6 speed versus A4 argument has gone through every LS1 board on earth.....the truth is that an automatic C5 is faster in the 1/4 mile than a 6 speed. So for those of you that think an M6 C5 is faster than your C32, well an A4 C5 is even faster.
(the auto just doesn't "feel" as fast).

pocholin

What !?!?


It is a fact that a 6 speed will be faster than an automatic, if launched and shifted right in the quarter mile, and for autocrosing or road racing, 6 speed is still better than automatic.
I used to have a 1999 Vette, 6 speed, bone stock (no modifications at all), if launched right I could get 12.9 @ 112 mph quarter mile, I have not yet heard/read any automatic vette faster than that, not even close, may be a 13.3
The advantage of 6 speed vs automatic, you shift when you want and much faster, sometimes close to the rev limiter is not the best way to get better numbers so you shift 400-500 rpm before rev limiter, or even more like 800-900 rpm, it all depends. This goes for straight lines, autocross/road cross is even more crucial to shift when you want and as hard or soft as you want.

TNH

In a drag racing application, the A4 is a much better transmission. No serious drag racer uses a 6 speed, and that is a fact.

After all, we are talking about straight line racing, correct?

pocholin

Of course drag racer don't use 6 speed manual transmissions, but we are talking about regular, everyday cars.
Do Formula 1 cars use automatic transmissions? No, then again, we are not talking about Formula 1 cars either.

TNH

I am talking about street/drag cars, the kind of vehicle that has become so popular lately. A car that you can drive everywhere, everyday, but run respectable times at the strip.....
The automatic is the top choice of anyone who's goal is straight line acceleration, wether it be a pro street car, a real drag car, or some goon racing from stoplight to stoplight.

Visit http://www.ls1.com , and click on forums.
Search for automatic vs. manual.

The only people in favor of the manual are those that enjoy shifting and aren't serious about track times.

TNH

I just did a little search for the hell of it, and most of the LS1 owner's prefer the A4 as long as they want all out acceleration. Very few of them believe that the M6 is faster than the A4 in a drag race......

BUT....

They do all agree that the A4 with a torque converter blows away any M6 in the quarter.

pocholin

aahh, with torque converter, of course because the stock converter (unmodified car) is not enough to make it faster than a M6
On a M6 all you have to do is take off at a higher rpm, but you better know what you are doing.

A4 is a lot easier, and since most people in the US don't know how to drive a M6 it is to be expected that they preffer A4s

Automatic or M6 Vette C5, which one is faster? Same driver, skilled on automatic or manual, Manual is going to be faster on the quarter mile. Read motor trend or car and driver, they always show better times for M6.

RUSSH

My SS would beat a C32 and It's a little less powerful than a C5.

Saif

I'm pretty sure the C32 will beat the C5. I raced a C5 convertible with the 6 speed in my CLK and beat it off the line. We only raced to about 60 mph then had to slow down. You should have seen the guys face, he was shocked he lost to a Benz.

pocholin

I love to see those faces, don't you?

Bux

i have raced 3 SS's...1 was on the track and won each time...everytime they would shift my lead would just get bigger and bigger...but with a good driver they should be able to take me by a little. badfkr98SS ..your ss isn't stock so yeah you obviously should be able to take a c32.

Nektopoli

How much HP does with torque converter eat up on the Corvette.

steve s

funny...yeah i know all the mags always say stick faster than auto...but mb seems to think their autos are faster than the average joe schmo on stick...

steve s

heck, magazines have tested 6-sp manuals to faster than 6-sp semi-automatic manuals (witness bmw's m3 e46 coupe with 6-sp manual and 6-sp smg2) in straightline accelerations... now that is some serious shifting ability...

JustinTRW

Yes, but the methods in which such a test are performed promote a caveat. Consider the way in which drivers shift their vehicles in different situations, such as in traffic or at the drag strip. In traffic, perhaps the driver is a little lazy and slower to engage the clutch. Then consider the drag strip, where power shifts are what you live by. Despite BMW's SMGII system having "launch" control where the system can rev the engine to a predetermined mark, and then drop the clutch, it cannot powershift. To achieve 0-60 in 4.7 sec in a 6-speed conventional manual M3, you must resort to tactics in which the SMG will not use, nor should the average driver in both street and track conditions. This is however, unless you feel like wearing your vehicle prematurely.

Specifically, to beat the SMG system in a regular manual, you must not lift from the gas pedal fully while the clutch is not engaged fully. The driver is probably also getting back on full gas more quickly. Even in S6 mode (the fastest of SMG modes), the wear on mechanical parts is less than that of a driver trying to achieve a 4.7 second 0-60 time in a conventional manual. That is not to say in the long term, SMG clutches will last longer than those in conventional 6-speed vehicles. In fact, they do not as long, but of course that is a separate issue. So I digress.

av2

A stick shift M3 is faster than the SMGII model. I have seem them race, and the stick is faster. In this comparison about a stick C5 vs. C32, I think the C5 has the advantage with wider tires and having the stick. On the other hand, I think the C32 engine is more powerful then the Vette because although rated at 349hp, German cars especially MBs and BMWs are usually under rated. Never the less, automatics do rob away some hp. These cars are so close in speed, it would be fun to find out the true outcome from an actual race.

steve s

seems like it's always about wearing out stuff...anyway...while we're on the c5. anyone tell me why the c5 uses a leaf spring rear suspension (other than possibly space saving)? is it just me or does the picture of a truck with a leaf spring not the general app?