you guys should be proud... C55 vs M5 (highway)
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you guys should be proud... C55 vs M5 (highway)
Today was a typical humid as hell day in DC suburbia and the temp around 90ish. Anyways, I was driving down Montrose Rd. and about to enter I-270 south when I see a quad pipe exhaust on this 5-series. I immediately recognize that it’s an M5 and quickly pass it and the car in front of it as I get on the on-ramp. The moment I get off the ramp I see the M5 fly past the car in front of it and charge after me. I turn off the ventilation and gun it, thinking to myself that he should be pulling on me any second as I top 80-90.. I glance at the rear view and what’s this…? As I’m topping 100 I’m pulling away to 110 still pulling… Then I quickly slow down down to 75-80ish… After the traffic clears I see that he guns it again and gets a jump on me … Because of the jump he gets about half a car length in front, and what the hell is this…? I start pulling on him again on to pass him… We gave each other thumbs up as I took the next exit.… Racing is a once in a blue moon event, but that opportunity was just too good to pass up… Cheers…
Eric….
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Originally Posted by EKaru
Today was a typical humid as hell day in DC suburbia and the temp around 90ish. Anyways, I was driving down Montrose Rd. and about to enter I-270 south when I see a quad pipe exhaust on this 5-series. I immediately recognize that it’s an M5 and quickly pass it and the car in front of it as I get on the on-ramp. The moment I get off the ramp I see the M5 fly past the car in front of it and charge after me. I turn off the ventilation and gun it, thinking to myself that he should be pulling on me any second as I top 80-90.. I glance at the rear view and what’s this…? As I’m topping 100 I’m pulling away to 110 still pulling… Then I quickly slow down down to 75-80ish… After the traffic clears I see that he guns it again and gets a jump on me … Because of the jump he gets about half a car length in front, and what the hell is this…? I start pulling on him again on to pass him… We gave each other thumbs up as I took the next exit.… Racing is a once in a blue moon event, but that opportunity was just too good to pass up… Cheers…
Eric….
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Originally Posted by EKaru
... I start pulling on him again on to pass him… We gave each other thumbs up as I took the next exit...
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Originally Posted by Cabby
I saw a black c55 going the other way on Montrose as I got onto 270S yesterday shortly after the heavy rain in that area.... it looked soooooo good. Can't wait for mine to come in.That was probably me.... I've seen a few silver ones and a pewter, but not black....
I always keep it polished Eric.....
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Originally Posted by noka
The E39-M5 is a great car (394HP, 369lb-ft). Note the C55 has a bit more torque. (Even the new V10 M5 will be relatively low on torque, as BMW prefers the higher revving engine). Having owned an '03 M5, I am not surprised. The 6-speed Getrag tranny can be a bit notchy (especially when cold). Also, assuming he was in 6th, unless you're an expert driver, it's not so easy to downshift two gears and hit the sweet spot as fast as the MB automatic, at least not without some danger of a "money shift".
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Originally Posted by EKaru
but as I said earlier, he had a jump (he had already downshifted and was accelerating before I floored it), so in this case I think it was really a test of engine strength.... How do you compare your old M5 to your C55 in terms of highway acceleration...?
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Originally Posted by pokerFACE
what is a :money shift" ?
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I've driven both and my impression is that the E39 body and the unsprung weight is a disadvantage w/ the M5. Don't get me wrong. It's a great car, but the lighter, quicker feeling C55 offsets that 20-30+ hp advantage....in my opinion.
One other thing. The E39 M5 used to burn a quart of oil every 7-800 miles.
One other thing. The E39 M5 used to burn a quart of oil every 7-800 miles.
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Originally Posted by scovit
... The E39 M5 used to burn a quart of oil every 7-800 miles.
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Noka:
No. I can't say that as a generalization, only from the experiences that my brother had w/ his 2002 M5. Yes, I think he probably drove it on the hard side. He used to keep a quart of Castro 5W-50 in his trunk all the time. My impression of that ride was fast but not gut wrenchingly so......
Don't know whether the oil consumption of his car had anything to do with performance. He now drives and S4 which he says is slightly slower that the M5.....
No. I can't say that as a generalization, only from the experiences that my brother had w/ his 2002 M5. Yes, I think he probably drove it on the hard side. He used to keep a quart of Castro 5W-50 in his trunk all the time. My impression of that ride was fast but not gut wrenchingly so......
Don't know whether the oil consumption of his car had anything to do with performance. He now drives and S4 which he says is slightly slower that the M5.....
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Originally Posted by scovit
... He used to keep a quart of Castro 5W-50 in his trunk all the time. ...
Interestingly, Europe continued to spec 10W-60 only and the engines were identical in US and EU. Some speculated the 5W-30 was also spec'd for US to reduce gas consumption for 'CAFE' standards.
I should also add that the M5 was a very special car to me and sometimes I regret selling it. Just so many great cars out there. Aren't we lucky?
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Originally Posted by coolcarlskiC43
Way to go!Lovely kill!
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Originally Posted by noka
You guys would do well to respect that beast if you meet up with one ... trust me. No way a C55 would "kill". Edge it out in certain situations, ... maybe. With a good driver, I would be inclined to bet on the M5.
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Originally Posted by noka
It is a bad shift that causes a mechanical over-rev and usually some bent valves and "expensive" repairs (e.g. downshifting from 5th to 4th but you hit 2nd instead). Watch that tach climb real fast with your heartbeat ... and you are very lucky if you get your foot back on the clutch pedal in time.
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