CTS V with a Maggie vs. C32 AMG
02-19-2007, 04:13 PM
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So, you only want to race a car that has less power and is for sure slower? My wife has an SUV that you might want to race.
02-19-2007, 04:14 PM
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According to a few sites, the CTS-V is faster than the C55.
02-19-2007, 04:24 PM
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My point was that a CTS-V is just a big engined base-model. In the twisities they would have no chance against my E46 M3 and in my two runs I came away with a W. The first was from a stoplight, so maybe it was the driver I beat but the second was on a deserted stretch of highway and it just seemed to run out of steam. The driver didn't look too happy. It has big hp and tq but that doesn't always translate. For instance, P-cars sem to have stronger horses than most and my current M3 (it's my fourth) is a quick one.
*disclaimer- i wouldn't normally invoke the twisities argument and promise not to do it again
*disclaimer- i wouldn't normally invoke the twisities argument and promise not to do it again
02-19-2007, 04:25 PM
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Also, AMGJerry, your C32 sounds like a beast. I'm glad you're in Chicago!
02-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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I guess you dont realize that any of us could have gone with a CTS V but didnt. I wanted a CTS V but the wife wanted a auto. She won and I am glad she did. My C32 is a great all around car. I like it better than my Vette for autocross (too much over-steer in the Vette) and its fast enough that when my daughter turns 16 in 2 years I will let her have the C32 and teacher her how to drag race and autocross. I will still have a 12 gage to keep the boys away.
02-19-2007, 04:46 PM
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you're gonna teach your daughter how to drag race in the C32 when she is 16?
I guess you dont realize that any of us could have gone with a CTS V but didnt. I wanted a CTS V but the wife wanted a auto. She won and I am glad she did. My C32 is a great all around car. I like it better than my Vette for autocross (too much over-steer in the Vette) and its fast enough that when my daughter turns 16 in 2 years I will let her have the C32 and teacher her how to drag race and autocross. I will still have a 12 gage to keep the boys away.
02-19-2007, 05:27 PM
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I plan on teaching her how to drive when she loses traction and how to correct at the drag strip and how to handle a car in turns at a road coarse. I will also spring for professional driving instruction from a local road coarse.
If my parents would have done this I would not have totalled 5 cars between the age 16-18.
02-19-2007, 06:16 PM
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After reading this thread, I just had to register. First, I'd like to apologize for the 'enthusiasm' of my V-brother. He comes off sounding quite brash, even though the discussion of the said V had been very civil until he arrived. He is obviously passionate about his car, as most of us are.
Having said that, I thought I could chime in about the Maggie'd V, as I also own one. 430rwhp would be within range [slightly the low side], especially on a Mustang or other load-bearing dyno. Mine did 461rwhp on a Dynojet. Not huge power, but for a 4-door blvd cruiser, it is respectable.
As far as the race[s] goes, I can believe it completely. With 3.73 gears, a decent-sized V8, and a positive-displacement blower, these cars are not easy to get out of the hole. Throttle modulation is critical all the way through second gear...once into 3rd, however - they're pretty stout, and pull like a freight train.
I can also say that I like and respect the MB cars, as well. I was just able to get a little more bang-for-the buck with the Caddy, and a 6-speed, which I gave up when I sold my Z06 when my son was born. I've had a couple run-ins with a local C32 when I had my Vette, so I know they are pretty quick machines!
Thanks, and enjoy
Having said that, I thought I could chime in about the Maggie'd V, as I also own one. 430rwhp would be within range [slightly the low side], especially on a Mustang or other load-bearing dyno. Mine did 461rwhp on a Dynojet. Not huge power, but for a 4-door blvd cruiser, it is respectable.
As far as the race[s] goes, I can believe it completely. With 3.73 gears, a decent-sized V8, and a positive-displacement blower, these cars are not easy to get out of the hole. Throttle modulation is critical all the way through second gear...once into 3rd, however - they're pretty stout, and pull like a freight train.
I can also say that I like and respect the MB cars, as well. I was just able to get a little more bang-for-the buck with the Caddy, and a 6-speed, which I gave up when I sold my Z06 when my son was born. I've had a couple run-ins with a local C32 when I had my Vette, so I know they are pretty quick machines!
Thanks, and enjoy
02-19-2007, 06:16 PM
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haha good call....in retrospect...
I WAS that 16 yr old kid who got the C32 AMG. Fortunately, I havent had such accidents. I've luckily figured out (for the most part) how to drive it in many conditions. not snow though. no snow in 'zona. i wish my parents did that though. I think thats what Bondurant does....but idk if you have to be 18 or not to be in their program.
I WAS that 16 yr old kid who got the C32 AMG. Fortunately, I havent had such accidents. I've luckily figured out (for the most part) how to drive it in many conditions. not snow though. no snow in 'zona. i wish my parents did that though. I think thats what Bondurant does....but idk if you have to be 18 or not to be in their program.
Yea. I was thinking of renting a junior dragster when she is 14 to get her feet wet. I figure if I teach her how to drive fast at the track she wont be stupid and drive crazy on the street and if she does at least she will be able to handle the car.
I plan on teaching her how to drive when she loses traction and how to correct at the drag strip and how to handle a car in turns at a road coarse. I will also spring for professional driving instruction from a local road coarse.
If my parents would have done this I would not have totalled 5 cars between the age 16-18.
I plan on teaching her how to drive when she loses traction and how to correct at the drag strip and how to handle a car in turns at a road coarse. I will also spring for professional driving instruction from a local road coarse.
If my parents would have done this I would not have totalled 5 cars between the age 16-18.
02-19-2007, 07:05 PM
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My point was that a CTS-V is just a big engined base-model. In the twisities they would have no chance against my E46 M3 and in my two runs I came away with a W. The first was from a stoplight, so maybe it was the driver I beat but the second was on a deserted stretch of highway and it just seemed to run out of steam. The driver didn't look too happy. It has big hp and tq but that doesn't always translate. For instance, P-cars sem to have stronger horses than most and my current M3 (it's my fourth) is a quick one.
*disclaimer- i wouldn't normally invoke the twisities argument and promise not to do it again
*disclaimer- i wouldn't normally invoke the twisities argument and promise not to do it again
I agree!
02-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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02-19-2007, 07:23 PM
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After reading this thread, I just had to register. First, I'd like to apologize for the 'enthusiasm' of my V-brother. He comes off sounding quite brash, even though the discussion of the said V had been very civil until he arrived. He is obviously passionate about his car, as most of us are.
Having said that, I thought I could chime in about the Maggie'd V, as I also own one. 430rwhp would be within range [slightly the low side], especially on a Mustang or other load-bearing dyno. Mine did 461rwhp on a Dynojet. Not huge power, but for a 4-door blvd cruiser, it is respectable.
As far as the race[s] goes, I can believe it completely. With 3.73 gears, a decent-sized V8, and a positive-displacement blower, these cars are not easy to get out of the hole. Throttle modulation is critical all the way through second gear...once into 3rd, however - they're pretty stout, and pull like a freight train.
I can also say that I like and respect the MB cars, as well. I was just able to get a little more bang-for-the buck with the Caddy, and a 6-speed, which I gave up when I sold my Z06 when my son was born. I've had a couple run-ins with a local C32 when I had my Vette, so I know they are pretty quick machines!
Thanks, and enjoy
Having said that, I thought I could chime in about the Maggie'd V, as I also own one. 430rwhp would be within range [slightly the low side], especially on a Mustang or other load-bearing dyno. Mine did 461rwhp on a Dynojet. Not huge power, but for a 4-door blvd cruiser, it is respectable.
As far as the race[s] goes, I can believe it completely. With 3.73 gears, a decent-sized V8, and a positive-displacement blower, these cars are not easy to get out of the hole. Throttle modulation is critical all the way through second gear...once into 3rd, however - they're pretty stout, and pull like a freight train.
I can also say that I like and respect the MB cars, as well. I was just able to get a little more bang-for-the buck with the Caddy, and a 6-speed, which I gave up when I sold my Z06 when my son was born. I've had a couple run-ins with a local C32 when I had my Vette, so I know they are pretty quick machines!
Thanks, and enjoy
02-19-2007, 07:26 PM
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After reading this thread, I just had to register. First, I'd like to apologize for the 'enthusiasm' of my V-brother. He comes off sounding quite brash, even though the discussion of the said V had been very civil until he arrived. He is obviously passionate about his car, as most of us are.
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After reading this thread, I just had to register. First, I'd like to apologize for the 'enthusiasm' of my V-brother. He comes off sounding quite brash, even though the discussion of the said V had been very civil until he arrived. He is obviously passionate about his car, as most of us are.
Having said that, I thought I could chime in about the Maggie'd V, as I also own one. 430rwhp would be within range [slightly the low side], especially on a Mustang or other load-bearing dyno. Mine did 461rwhp on a Dynojet. Not huge power, but for a 4-door blvd cruiser, it is respectable.
As far as the race[s] goes, I can believe it completely. With 3.73 gears, a decent-sized V8, and a positive-displacement blower, these cars are not easy to get out of the hole. Throttle modulation is critical all the way through second gear...once into 3rd, however - they're pretty stout, and pull like a freight train.
I can also say that I like and respect the MB cars, as well. I was just able to get a little more bang-for-the buck with the Caddy, and a 6-speed, which I gave up when I sold my Z06 when my son was born. I've had a couple run-ins with a local C32 when I had my Vette, so I know they are pretty quick machines!
Thanks, and enjoy
Having said that, I thought I could chime in about the Maggie'd V, as I also own one. 430rwhp would be within range [slightly the low side], especially on a Mustang or other load-bearing dyno. Mine did 461rwhp on a Dynojet. Not huge power, but for a 4-door blvd cruiser, it is respectable.
As far as the race[s] goes, I can believe it completely. With 3.73 gears, a decent-sized V8, and a positive-displacement blower, these cars are not easy to get out of the hole. Throttle modulation is critical all the way through second gear...once into 3rd, however - they're pretty stout, and pull like a freight train.
I can also say that I like and respect the MB cars, as well. I was just able to get a little more bang-for-the buck with the Caddy, and a 6-speed, which I gave up when I sold my Z06 when my son was born. I've had a couple run-ins with a local C32 when I had my Vette, so I know they are pretty quick machines!
Thanks, and enjoy
I agree 100% with your statement.
6sps, 245 rear tires (if stock) and tons of torque and hp on tap is a bad combo for the CTS-V S/C.
A better race would have been from 40 to about 110+, only then you would have seen the trap speed power of the blown v8.
We all know that a stock C32 would not have a chance against a CTS-V blown.. but this thread only illustrates an example of one possible outcome.
The C32 owner gave much respect to the CTS and I did not see a new for a TROLL to come and ruin the post.
We have had a few CTS enthusiast around here, and most have been cool. I hope we will continue to see that.
02-19-2007, 11:19 PM
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Its funny how 04ctsvfl acts like EVERY car forum on the internet is not biased. Obviously people are biased to what they drive- they are GOING to stick up for their cars- they MAY think their cars are faster than lambos and especially MBs. I dont know. I LOVE when people go over to another forum just to TROLL around and make sure that if ANYONE whatsoever mentions their car- they KNOW that it is an automotive gift from god.
04ctsvfl, *** you and the short shifter you rode into town on.
04ctsvfl, *** you and the short shifter you rode into town on.
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Its funny how 04ctsvfl acts like EVERY car forum on the internet is not biased. Obviously people are biased to what they drive- they are GOING to stick up for their cars- they MAY think their cars are faster than lambos and especially MBs. I dont know. I LOVE when people go over to another forum just to TROLL around and make sure that if ANYONE whatsoever mentions their car- they KNOW that it is an automotive gift from god.
04ctsvfl, *** you and the short shifter you rode into town on.
04ctsvfl, *** you and the short shifter you rode into town on.
02-20-2007, 06:26 AM
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My point was that a CTS-V is just a big engined base-model. In the twisities they would have no chance against my E46 M3 and in my two runs I came away with a W. The first was from a stoplight, so maybe it was the driver I beat but the second was on a deserted stretch of highway and it just seemed to run out of steam. The driver didn't look too happy. It has big hp and tq but that doesn't always translate. For instance, P-cars sem to have stronger horses than most and my current M3 (it's my fourth) is a quick one.
*disclaimer- i wouldn't normally invoke the twisities argument and promise not to do it again
*disclaimer- i wouldn't normally invoke the twisities argument and promise not to do it again
I guess with so little space on the road and cars with ballpark similar power its a drivers race.
I would have l loved a C55 with decent manual box but thats another story.
Is the shift on the V any good?
02-20-2007, 08:06 AM
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when i see CTS-V, my mind automatically shows me that video of the guy that blew his motor and drove it home 40mph on the freeway flooring it, wouldn't go faster...you know that vid i'm sure
(and i'm a big P-car fan and miss mine everyday)
