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Old 08-09-2005, 04:10 AM
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looks verrrrry nice! Be sure to take your ride to a photoshoot once.. love the way everything is done on your car.
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Correction - Renntech uses AMG kompressors and intercoolers that you will find on W211 E55s. They run at 12 psi to make 500HP, Kleemann uses Lysholm kompressor in their own intercooler housing and they run at 7 psi to make 500HP.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
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Correction - Renntech uses AMG kompressors and intercoolers that you will find on W211 E55s. They run at 12 psi to make 500HP, Kleemann uses Lysholm kompressor in their own intercooler housing and they run at 7 psi to make 500HP.
Not sure what you are correcting? (what quote?)
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RENNTech uses a larger housing supercharger then Kleeman, the supercharger is more efficient and doesnt need to be boosting as much to generate more power... it also runs cooler then the Kleeman charger!!!
Benny, meant to say Benzo. My apologies.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
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Correction - Renntech uses AMG kompressors and intercoolers that you will find on W211 E55s. They run at 12 psi to make 500HP, Kleemann uses Lysholm kompressor in their own intercooler housing and they run at 7 psi to make 500HP.
I thought the E55 was a Lysholm blower too.
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Originally Posted by benzo
RENNTech uses a larger housing supercharger then Kleeman, the supercharger is more efficient and doesnt need to be boosting as much to generate more power... it also runs cooler then the Kleeman charger!!!
Benzo - who told you that and what were they smoking?

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Old 08-09-2005, 12:17 PM
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Yes, they are. However, AMG buys kompressors from IHI in Japan, that licenses their production from Lysholm. Both, AMG and Kleemann are called twin-screw kompressors. Both are very similar, however Kleemann uses a lot more efficient intercooler cores that allows them to make same power with less boost.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Both are very similar, however Kleemann uses a lot more efficient intercooler cores that allows them to make same power with less boost.
That's why Kleemann is the leader in kompressor technology all the way!
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Benzo - who told you that and what were they smoking?
it is known kleeman over states all their power claims and tries to sell items that are worse than they claim. look at the tuner challenge and realize that from 100-150 their car was far slower than the renntech car and guess what it they used a lighter and more aerodynamic vehicle for the test. If tne Kleemann car made the power they all talk about iit would have killed the renntech car but it did not even get close.

guess they had a better supercharger and intercooler.

p.s. renntech does not always use the amg ihi blower and intercooler. they have their own blower which they use on the more impressive vehicles.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
it is known kleeman over states all their power claims and tries to sell items that are worse than they claim. look at the tuner challenge and realize that from 100-150 their car was far slower than the renntech car and guess what it they used a lighter and more aerodynamic vehicle for the test. If tne Kleemann car made the power they all talk about iit would have killed the renntech car but it did not even get close.

guess they had a better supercharger and intercooler.

p.s. renntech does not always use the amg ihi blower and intercooler. they have their own blower which they use on the more impressive vehicles.
Where can we find this "tuner challenge" you speak of? I'd like to read it. Thanks.
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^^ RennTech, Kleemann, Brabus and Carlsson they're all the same!
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Benny:

Correction - Renntech uses AMG kompressors and intercoolers that you will find on W211 E55s. They run at 12 psi to make 500HP, Kleemann uses Lysholm kompressor in their own intercooler housing and they run at 7 psi to make 500HP.
doesnt brabus use AMG super chargers also? like in their CLK K8?
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Benny:

Correction - Renntech uses AMG kompressors and intercoolers that you will find on W211 E55s. They run at 12 psi to make 500HP, Kleemann uses Lysholm kompressor in their own intercooler housing and they run at 7 psi to make 500HP.
Not true. RENNtech uses the AMB blowers for it's high boost applications only.
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tries to sell items that are worse than they claim
What does this mean?

look at the tuner challenge
Which tuner challenge are you reffering to? Is there a link we can go to verify data?

RENNtech uses the AMB blowers for it's high boost applications only.
In the past I have seen several cars done by Renntech with AMG blowers on stock engines with smaller crankshaft pulley to reduce the boost.

Maybe now they are using something else. I have yet to see any dyno graphs or any other data to confirm their performance.
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Let's see some dyno graphs of some s/c renntech cars. Proof is in the pudding. We are all waiting to see Bennyz's dyno.
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
What does this mean?



Which tuner challenge are you reffering to? Is there a link we can go to verify data?



In the past I have seen several cars done by Renntech with AMG blowers on stock engines with smaller crankshaft pulley to reduce the boost.

Maybe now they are using something else. I have yet to see any dyno graphs or any other data to confirm their performance.
All I did was post a picture of an A pillar with some gauges. All this Renntech vs. Kleemann stuff...

When my car is done, sometimes next week I will post up all the dyno result (nos off) and then we will have the dyno for a Renntech C55 - I'll list all the mods...
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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
What does this mean?



Which tuner challenge are you reffering to? Is there a link we can go to verify data?



In the past I have seen several cars done by Renntech with AMG blowers on stock engines with smaller crankshaft pulley to reduce the boost.

Maybe now they are using something else. I have yet to see any dyno graphs or any other data to confirm their performance.
Renntech has 2 or more types of blowers they use and 1 is the IHI kit. The other version creates less heat and flows more air if i can recall correctly. I have seen this is use on G500''s E500's and such. The non IHI blower is also lighter.

The test I am talking about is the Car and Driver shoot out. The RENNTech CL55 was faster than the Kleemann SL55 from 100-150 and that is where power comes out. THe CL55 was faster than the SL55 and the SL was claimed to have more power and a ton more tq. Maybe this kleemann car was over rated? I would go with that.

I dont store threads everywhere but I have seen threads in other forums where S500's and G500's with Kleemann blowers were making no where near what kleemann claimed. Smoke and mirrors.

The test was the

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Originally Posted by Vadim @ evosport
Benny:

Correction - Renntech uses AMG kompressors and intercoolers that you will find on W211 E55s. They run at 12 psi to make 500HP, Kleemann uses Lysholm kompressor in their own intercooler housing and they run at 7 psi to make 500HP.
miscorrection... Mr. Vadim, if you only knew what I knew...hahaha!!!!!!
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Not true. RENNtech uses the AMB blowers for it's high boost applications only.
finally somebody who knows what hes talking about!!
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Originally Posted by medici78
I thought the E55 was a Lysholm blower too.
they are all lysholm style twin screw blowers with different housings and intercooler setups!!! Two popular manuf. of the twin screw blowers used by MB tuners are IHI and Autorotor. Eaton is now producing twin screw blowers too... theres a lot in stored in the near future.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
Renntech has 2 or more types of blowers they use and 1 is the IHI kit. The other version creates less heat and flows more air if i can recall correctly. I have seen this is use on G500''s E500's and such. The non IHI blower is also lighter.

The test I am talking about is the Car and Driver shoot out. The RENNTech CL55 was faster than the Kleemann SL55 from 100-150 and that is where power comes out. THe CL55 was faster than the SL55 and the SL was claimed to have more power and a ton more tq. Maybe this kleemann car was over rated? I would go with that.

I dont store threads everywhere but I have seen threads in other forums where S500's and G500's with Kleemann blowers were making no where near what kleemann claimed. Smoke and mirrors.

The test was the
glad to see we can both finally agree on the same thing!!
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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
finally somebody who knows what hes talking about!!
not really

i have stood at a CLK55 with Hartmut looking at an IHI blower car with the low boost pulley on it. things have changed since then. The E500 test car (his wifes car) had the non IHI blower on it and it went on a auto show tour and I also drove it. That car was a whole lot more fun than my E55... just as fast to with less power. It actually turned!

that CLK55 car was on e-bay a while back...
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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
finally somebody who knows what hes talking about!!
I think that the best thing to do is wait for Dragon's car to be done; wait for my car to be done (nos off)

AND RUN THE TWO - RENNTECH VS. KLEEMANN - nice clean fight, no hidden secrets!

either way, both cars are awesome!

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Originally Posted by BenzoAMGpower
miscorrection... Mr. Vadim, if you only knew what I knew...hahaha!!!!!!
u really do love your self.

im on your side here but u could really grow up a tad....

and if u only knew what i knew...
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Originally Posted by BennyZ
I think that the best thing to do is wait for Dragon's car to be done; wait for my car to be done (nos off)

AND RUN THE TWO - RENNTECH VS. KLEEMANN - nice clean fight, no hidden secrets!

either way, both cars are awesome!

BennyZ
Sounds like a plan ... Much RESPECT!!!! I agree, your car is awesome Bennyz.


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