Vomit

Know any details Chappy? I assume that it is a 5.5 conversion, but with S/C? NO2?

dragonAMG

Nice... that looks wicked! Hoosier yer daddy. Can't wait to get some slicks.

Looking for low 11's with slicks and a decent temp (50-60).

BTW -- Nice time.

ProjectC55

YEP! That'sTHE DON!!!!!!!! KING C55 W202! KLEEMAN S/C 11.5 sec @ over 120mph....

FrankW

wat's the purpose of that thing on the front of the trailer?

Chappy

The car was built two years ago by Benzmac. More details...

http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...&highlight=c55

Chappy

Not my trailer, but I have to assume aerodynamics and/or to keep any stone damage off the towed vehicle.

ProjectC55

yep great thread.I cannot tell you how many times I've read it b4 I even started my conversion. Next Wed I'm gonna be more focused on those stupid stage and tree lights.I gotta get my 60ft below 2.0 and the goal is twelves no matter how fast I go in the traps.


By the way Chappy what was your MPH on your best run?

Bux

i agree with you on the rest but there is no way in hell will a stock c32 on street tires pull a 1.7!!! or even a 1.8

ProjectC55

Well I'm confused! You say you agree but yet you disagree!I think you don't agree at all based on this conlusive statement,well sort of conclusive.

If he says there is proof why would you debate that?

My first launch was I'd say beginner's luck.The car did this launch effortlessly.I'm sure with practice I'll get the car in high 12's with my Pirrelli Pzero Nero's.I never in my life expected it to run as low an ET as it did but it has.Unfortunately I was only able to get in two runs but I was surprised and proud as hell.I consider this a successful swap especially for the money and I hope other CLK430's,E430's,C43's do the swap as well if they can get a 5k legit engine deal like I did.

There were guys telling me that my car would not be as fast or faster than some W210 E55's or other C-class AMG's.It seems like I proved what other detractors said would be impossible ,possible,right RGUY! ( That's another guy on MBworld) Anyway Bux,let's see what happens b4 you conclude as to what is and what's not impossible.If I can do it and I'll try just wish me luck.That first launch I did came OH SO easy!

Vomit

The C32 that hit a 1.7 with street tires has a pulley and ECU, I think. I am sure that a talented stock C32 driver on a good track could hit a 1.8 with street tires. Point being: cool day + good track + perfect launch, and you should be flirting with the twelves.

The Pirellis may hold you back somewhat, however. In my (limited) experience, Pirellis are crappy launch tires. I had the Rossos, and they did not grip nearly as well as my Toyos do. I went to the track once with Dink (who has a C32 with Pirelli Neros) and he was having even more launch problems than I was with my Rossos. The Pirellis (at least the Rossos) also wear like crazy on the rear. This is not just my opinion. . . many others have voiced same on this forum, and I have read similar complaints about the Pirellis from Porsche and BMW owners.

ProjectC55

Did'nt seem that bad to me,that's what I ran on my car when I posted 13.3 I'd ideally like to run a set of race tires on my 17" mono's.

Vomit

Hey, whatever works, right? I'll say this: The Rossos ride like butter. They are the best front tires IMO for the C32, with the Toyos or the Goodyears on the rear (or just do the PS2s and have the best all the way around, but $$$).

ProjectC55

Vomit,LOL! Question for you. Your name is killin me! :p

Are you guys(C32's and 55's) all using race fuel?

I had a lil too much gas in my tank b4 coming to the track so I didnt want to fill it with any more.

Chappy

My full slip read:

R/T: .803
60: 2.131
330: 5.770
1/8: 8.745
MPH: 82.57
1000: 11.297
1/4: 13.439
MPH: 105.79

On another occasion I had as high as 107 mph, but the ET was not as good. Don't have the slip handy, else I would post the gory details.

ProjectC55

1st run

RT ..... .500
60' ......2.041
330 ......5.684
1/8 ......8.682
mph...... 82.57
1000... 11.242
1/4...13.398
mph...102.52

2nd run

RT .161
60' 2.174
330 ..5.860
1/8 ...8.881
mph...82.05
1000..11.453
1/4...13.614
mph..103.46

Chappy's slip

R/T: .803
60: 2.131
330: 5.770
1/8: 8.745
MPH: 82.57
1000: 11.297
1/4: 13.439
MPH: 105.79


Chappy those are great #'s. I 'm just trying to compare some of the #'s as a frame of reference. Now did you drive your car in D4 all the way down the track?

rguy

Well, you had to do it didn't you uncool carlski? I suggest you just quit hunting for everyone's approval here in the w203 c55 and c32 forum and be happy with what you have. I told you that a long time ago, and you are still stinging about it. Oh, and by the way, you STILL aren't as fast as a c55. But, I admire you trying so hard. By the way, I thought you agreed to knock this stuff off? What happened?

e63sds36e

good numbers!

are you planning on slapping a supercharger too? that'd be pretty nice.

ProjectC55

If I could find one at the right price!

You inspired me! What can I say! I won't try to offend u though.All in good fun! Seems like I got somebody's attention! Don't worry,more track days to come my friend.Good Luck and thanx for the admiration!

Chappy

No. I let the car shift itself (left it in "D").

doofoo

I assure you, I hit 1.7's the day I ran over 30 runs at MIR Drag in maryland. I was in 1.8's and 1.9's all day long on my stock tires. I'll goto my storage locker and get my pile of slips and scan them in.

All I have done to my car is ASP Pulleys, no ECU. I ran 12.706 @ 109.55 50-60 degree's out.

-Mike

ProjectC55

worse comes to worse I will get a 2k1 E55 tranny if that's what's holding the car back.Do you remember the temp that day as well and did you use pump gas?I gotta solve the trap mystery. last choice will be to data log the car and check out the A/F.S/W could need more tuning.

Vomit

WTF? Seems like R(ectal)Guy was having a bad day.

I, for one, admire Carl's creation. He has created a unique vehicle which, based on his 1/4 mile times, WILL run with a W203 C55 (or C32).

BTW, if "hunting for everyone's approval" is a bad thing, I guess that we should get rid of the stickied 'Photos of your car' thread.

BBTW: "Vomit" it short for my full (Thai) name, which is "Vo Mithayayoung"

JamE55

That's what 8 1/2lbs of meat running through it's vein will get you! And also stock internals. D is the the man!

zoink

Ah, just like my old friend whose name is Usac (read: U Suck)

I almost beat him up when we first met....
Q: What's your name?
A: You suck!

Sorry for off topic.

rguy

Hey carl,

The uncool carlski was just a joke matching your joke, but I did think we agreed for the sake of others not in on the mental gymnastics that we would stop doing this jacka$$ thing on forums.

And as you truly know, I just said that the engine wouldn't make the same numbers in the w202 as it did in the w210 and most likely wouldn't run as fast either. I think I am vindicated here. Hell, when you think about it, the engine doesn't make the same numbers in the w203 as it did in the w210, even with all the bells and whistles that have been added since your generation of the 5.5l v8. I think two things are seriously hurting your top-end, which has been the bulk of my argument here about you still not being as fast as a c55. (1) Transmission is nowhere close to the transmission in the c55. As you know, I have had both, and there is no comparison. (2) You have a much larger front wall and at speeds above 80 or so, you aren't going to move through the air as well as the w203 c55. If you were able to do it, you could verify this by significant changes in wind noise in the car between the two. On top of it, the c43 had better noise insulation than the current car.

So like I said, you are running a custom exhaust and have a custom engine program (from what I recall) and are running on smaller wheel diameter with roughly the same weight. If you were stock to stock, then you wouldn't run with a c55. This is my point. If I ran a kleeman exhaust, with a kleeman naturally aspirated chip, and went down to your wheels (i don't think they clear the brake calipers though), then I would be significantly faster too. Nobody is saying that you can't ever be as fast as a stock c55, you just can't be by a simple engine transplant form a w210. I don't know if you ever finally grasped that or not. It doesn't really matter I guess. I don't have any hard feelings towards you, never truly did, but I would have kept it stock since when your car goes classic, ours will go to the junkyard for lack of want. You have the belle of the ball, the first mercedes backed v8 amg car and we have the ugly duckling. Your car was poured over by an AMG technician, ours was assembled with the other c-classes in a factory assembly line but with a hand built engine. (Before anyone flames that part, let me say that I am talking about how these two cars will go down in history in about 10-20 years) Now you have ruined the value of your car because you didn't think about what a special historically valuable vehicle you had. You might find that someone is willing to buy it because they want the power, but if you cruise the mopar show or similar, you look at the values of the show stock versus modified cars. I think you will catch my drift after doing that, or at least I can only hope I guess. I do think switching trannies would give you much better driveability, fuel economy and performance, not to mention most of the c43s have significant gear slippage even rolling off the darn hand assembly line.

As to vomit, well I guess I could make fun of your name, but you beat me to it. And just because you beat me to it, I am not inviting you to the party in my pants, so there! Take that you insufferable cur!

As for the picture gallery though, I never thought of it like that, I thought of the gallery as a bunch of cars that you could see what different mods looked like, not a chance to blow smoke up someone's hot crossed buns.

Take care to all, and to all a good take care.