Hard to believe... since about 40% of AMG models are sold in the United States... yeah I try to quote sources whenever I stumble upon them... it makes one more credible when making facts not fiction, don't you think! Well hope your CLK55AMG is worth big bucks due to its exclusivity now!

 

y is it hard to believe that the convertible was outselling the coupe?
even if 80% of worldwide sales were us, it doesnt matter, if its not selling its not worth bringing here.(period)

so me racing and beating c32's is fiction and u (who has nothing to do w/ testing the cars) quoting is fact
great buddy, u win, want a cookie

 

My bad, I guess you are a math expert considering you beat C32's by 2 or more car lengths easily, lol...if almost the majority of AMG cars sold is sent to the US,then by having so much demand, one would figure that all the products that AMG has to offer would be brought here in terms of cars... I don't see why it wouldn't be selling... there were more coupes sold than are cab's in the state of Col alone....Also, MB has sold more coupes then cabs in Canada, and yet they are discontinuing the coupe in North America entirely; I guess in this case it is worth bringing it to Canada, period... thats a fact... never said you were not right, just hard to believe...even more so when you craft up numbers....

Anyhow, I've raced my buddy's C55 (like I said before) and I had a slight lead... having said that a C55 or a C32 would be a fair match to a CLK55... not by margins, as you have indicated... you probably should finish the cookie, maybe a few more pounds will make your car fly!!!

 

I think we can all see why quality at Mercedes is declining....

 

... the new M3 will be no match, thus widening the gap... maybe if you raced the M3, you can lessen the gap, obviously these mag companies don't know who to drive Anyhow I'm glad you purchased such a great piece of precision, considering Diamler's Quality

 

Actually have not had the chance to race an M3. I did race a 2006 c6 Vette and beat him.

https://mbworld.org/forums/c32-amg-c55-amg-w203/114286-popped-my-cherry.html

Now car for car the 2006 c6 Vette will smoke a c32 and a c55

MT-ESTIMATED PERFORMANCE DATA
0-30 mph, sec 1.8
0-60 mph, sec 4.1
0-100 mph, sec 9.5
1/4 mile, sec @ mph 12.5 @ 115.0

But like all my posts in this thread it comes down to driver. Try to pay attention. Arguing over magazine times is moronic.

 

Try to read what this thread was initially about... that would help! I posted it up to say that a C55 and C32 can have variations in performance, so a concrete statement about the victor is indeed hard to justify.... the times I have extracted from magazines only indicate the potential run a car can have... its a threshold someone has attained in one instance... so taking my words out of context is pretty preplexing since you and I speak the same language...or at least I'd hope so.... its moronic to argue something that was never an issue to begin with.... a hint for next time: try and read the topic about a thread before posting a useless argument, that may help!!!

 

If we are speaking the same language why quote magazine times and totally discount AMG_55's account of him actually racing and beating 2 c32s? Maybe the C32 drivers sucked? Maybe it was 150F? Maybe he cheated?

 

If you could begin to read between the lines that I have typed ,one can see that a discrepancy of car lengths on every race attempt seems unrealistic.... reading English isn't obviously your forte.... perhaps beating corvettes is....stick to that :p

 

Mercedes AMG claims identical times of 5.2 seconds for the 0-100km/h (0-62mph) for both the C32 and C55. My personal interpretation of the instrumented tests which have been performed by the 3 mainstream North American magazines (R&T, C&D, MT) is that the C55 is probably slightly faster in a drag race, but very close.

In comparing performance numbers, I think everyone agrees that a direct comparison test done at the same time is the most valid. I have never found a direct comparison test of the C32 and C55. In the absence of that, the next best thing is comparing numbers from the SAME magazine because each magazine has their own sort of "rules and methods" about testing.

Interestingly, all 3 magazines tested the C32 against the Audi S4, and 2 of the 3 magazines tested the C55 against the Audi S4 as well. This is important, because the S4 numbers provide constant benchmark to gauge the performance of the C32 and C55.

Car and Driver May 2003
C32: 0-60 in 5.2 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds
S4: 0-60 in 5.0 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds

Car and Driver Nov 2004
C55: 0-60 in 4.7 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.3 seconds
S4: 0-60 in 5.1 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.7 seconds

Road and Track Dec 2003
C32: 0-60 in 5.1 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.6 seconds
S4: 0-60 in 5.4 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.9 seconds

Road and Track Nov 2004
C55: 0-60 in 5.0 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.5 seconds
S4: 0-60 in 5.5 seconds; 1/4 mile in 14.6 seconds

MotorTrend Sept 2003
C32: 0-60 in 4.77 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.24 seconds
S4: 0-60 in 4.99 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.44 seconds

MotorTrend Nov 2004
C55: 0-60 in 4.9 seconds; 1/4 mile in 13.2 seconds
S4: not tested at the same time

2 out of the 3 magazines found the C55 to be faster than the C32. For some people, that may already enough of a hint that the C55 may really be a bit faster than the C32. MT was the only one which found the C32 faster than the C55 from 0-60. But look at the S4 time of 4.99 seconds from MT performed on the same day as that fast C32. It is clearly much faster than the more typical times seen from C&D and R&T, leading me to think that on that day, the environmental/track/driver conditions may have resulted in BOTH the S4 and C32 to be "faster than usual".

Another way to look at it is this: From those comparison tests with the S4, the C32 is about 0.2-0.3 seconds faster to 60mph than the S4. On the other hand, the C55 seems to be 0.4-0.5 seconds faster than the S4. A very small difference indeed, but the trend is consistent.

 

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Mercedes SL55 AMG ( 5/2002) 8:12
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Nissan 350Z (10/2003) 8:26
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REMEMBER: Times are usually stock model from standing start & road tyres used.

 

AMEN!!!

 

u know what i made everything up, i never raced c32's cause im scared they would beat me
is that better?

 

This thread is sad. So he can't afford the C55, gets a used C32 and now tries to justify his purchase.

Nothing wrong with buying a used C32, but this is rediculous. I'm just saying what everyone is thinking

 

My problem is trying to justify changing from a C32 to a C55, cannot make a case for this on performance grounds as a very slight difference is not going to justify the financial loss of selling up.
Can anyone make a convincing case for this?
An extra pair of exhaust pipes and a different/(better?) engine note is all I can think of....
BTW my car has 18s rims already.

03 plate CLK 55`s are falling into my league (£33K) and am tempted.

 

I agree that if you already have a C32, it probably isn't financially worth it to upgrade to a new C55, especially as the W203 chassis will be replaced by the W204 chassis in MY2008. If I already had the C32, I'd wait to see what the W204 C-class AMG will be like.

Having said that, the performance difference between the C55 and C32 has more to do with the handling aspect, rather than straight line speed.

The major differences between C55 and C32: V8 motor (more linear powerband and very different sound), M (manual) mode for the transmission with gear shift buttons on the back of the steering wheel, and significantly better handling (because of more direct steering, 14mm widened front track, stiffer suspension all around, reworked ESP which is tuned more for aggressive driving).

The more minor differences are: cosmetic CLK front end, 18" rims, quad exhaust, trunklid spoiler, significantly revised interior with better seats and instrument cluster.

 

very nice summary of the differences, but i have stupid question for you guys- what is this MY 2006, MY 2004--

and by the way, what's the clk front change- the clear fogs? it doesn't have the grill...so i'm not sure.....

 

MY= model year. So MY2008 means the 2008 model year (which usually starts selling in 2007).

The front end of the C55 (from windshield forward) is taken from the CLK. The front end is 80mm longer than a typcial C-class. This was necessary as the original W203 front end could not accomodate a 5.4L V8. You'll see that the angle of the grill and even the headlamps are more slanted than a typcal W203. Furthermore, there are more cosmetic differences in that the grill itself is wider and shorter in height. The front bumper is completely revised as well, with different fog lights.

 

I can tell you from personal experience that the difference is much greater. I suspect they probably used an S4 with a manual gear box in the test, and it was probably the Avant or Sedan (weight). I'd say the C32 is probably a full second closer to 60 than the S4. I have no idea how they pulled the same quarter mile time.

 

I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. What you quoted from me is the only instance when the C32 was SLOWER to 60 mph than the S4. If you're saying that you think the C32 is a full second FASTER than the S4 to 60mph, I think you're probably mistaken. Typical tested 0-60 times for the S4 range from 5.0-5.5 seconds. There is no way a C32 (or C55) can do 0-60 in 4.0-4.5 seconds.

And yes, all the S4's which were tested by the 3 magazines I posted were sedans with a 6 speed manual transmission.

 

Vegas is the same way.

 

Dragon,

Your wheels are SOOOOO sick......

Mez

 

Beating a C32 by car lengths is pretty far fetched...but oh wait... were you racing it down a hill???? ...considering how much you add to the weight of the car... now that's believable!!!!!

 

 

im gonna call BS also. i find it extremely hard to believe you beat a C32 by
"4-5 car lengths" from 35-115 in your CLK55.

knowing that a stock C55 dyno's around 295rwhp with about 300 rwtq (most stock C32's dyno around 280-290. some have even dyno'd near 300 with similar tq numbers), and that a stock CLK55 is actually heavier PLUS your HRE rims, the added weight might negate any gains to be had by your exhaust and filters.

either you are bu11****ting, exaggerating by a huge degree, or the C32's you raced were duds