GTOs are always ready to play
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You guys do realize that no pro driver can shift as fast with a stick than the auto does right?
Automatics are always believed to be slow because they kill off more hp to the wheels. Autos are not slow as far as shifting goes.
Automatics are always believed to be slow because they kill off more hp to the wheels. Autos are not slow as far as shifting goes.
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The 350 horse LS1 GTO's run high 13's, while the LS2's run low 13's. With a proper launch and a couple quick shifts, the GTO should be able to keep up with a C55. they are tricky to get going off the line though since that car is oddly equipped with either 245 wide tires on 17" wheels, or 235's on 18's. Kinda skinny for a 400 horsepower performance car.
Now factor in the relatively low price of mods on the GTO and how responsive those cars are, and they can get pretty quick for cheap.
If it wasn't for the FUGLY styling, I'd already be in one. I like the size, I like the drive, but can't get used to its looks.
We used to swear by GM, but for the first time ever we have an import gracing the driveway. Thank you MB for the wonderul car.
Now factor in the relatively low price of mods on the GTO and how responsive those cars are, and they can get pretty quick for cheap.
If it wasn't for the FUGLY styling, I'd already be in one. I like the size, I like the drive, but can't get used to its looks.
We used to swear by GM, but for the first time ever we have an import gracing the driveway. Thank you MB for the wonderul car.
Originally Posted by lauer87
I raced a friend of mine from a stoplight, who has an 03 with the 350 hp engine in it. We were pretty close off the line, but i was 3-4 lengths ahead when i stopped around 95. That being said i would think the 400 hp version would be slightly faster than a C32, but slightly slower than a C55.
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Originally Posted by Roupin
The 350 horse LS1 GTO's run high 13's, while the LS2's run low 13's. With a proper launch and a couple quick shifts, the GTO should be able to keep up with a C55. they are tricky to get going off the line though since that car is oddly equipped with either 245 wide tires on 17" wheels, or 235's on 18's. Kinda skinny for a 400 horsepower performance car.
Now factor in the relatively low price of mods on the GTO and how responsive those cars are, and they can get pretty quick for cheap.
If it wasn't for the FUGLY styling, I'd already be in one. I like the size, I like the drive, but can't get used to its looks.
We used to swear by GM, but for the first time ever we have an import gracing the driveway. Thank you MB for the wonderul car.
Now factor in the relatively low price of mods on the GTO and how responsive those cars are, and they can get pretty quick for cheap.
If it wasn't for the FUGLY styling, I'd already be in one. I like the size, I like the drive, but can't get used to its looks.
We used to swear by GM, but for the first time ever we have an import gracing the driveway. Thank you MB for the wonderul car.
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05 gto owner checking in here guys, just wanted to say that my best friend owns a silver c55 and we've raced a couple times and it was close but i always beat him by 1-2 carlength. i have been drag racing all my life and the best 1/4 mile time i have gotten is 12.9 @ 109 with a 1.9 60' on crappy all season tires (track elevation is 1100 ft). the only mod i have is an intake (5 hp) and that was full race weight (close to 4000 lbs with driver and gas) the c55's are fast and probably most c55 owners will put away an average driver in a gto but i would not take them lightly.
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Originally Posted by Norm C32
This was on 400 wear rating all-season tires. Don't know why GM would put all-season tires on a 400hp car aside from keeping it off the bumper of a Vette.
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No matter what tires you put on the GTO.
No bashing meant, Just bringing the weight difference to light
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Just to let you guys know, GTO's have a lot of traction issues, this is why street tires seem to be an equalizer in many of the encouters you guys have mentioned. GTO's have a lot of torque and struggle for grip. Slap on some drag radials and the power of the GTO will be more obvious and the race will be more one-sided at least against a C32. GTO's are pigs on street tires, but once they have traction it's a different story
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Originally Posted by silv_w210
Just to let you guys know, GTO's have a lot of traction issues, this is why street tires seem to be an equalizer in many of the encouters you guys have mentioned. GTO's have a lot of torque and struggle for grip. Slap on some drag radials and the power of the GTO will be more obvious and the race will be more one-sided at least against a C32. GTO's are pigs on street tires, but once they have traction it's a different story
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and i stayed w/ him (he didnt pull a mm) up to 85-90.
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
i raced 1 from a rolling start (i started behind him b/c its a 2lane 2way road)
and i stayed w/ him (he didnt pull a mm) up to 85-90.
and i stayed w/ him (he didnt pull a mm) up to 85-90.
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Originally Posted by tommycheng1728
congratulations, you stayed with a car that cost less than half of yours ( and you didn't even pull a mm )
if i wanted an american piece of **** i wouldve got a z06 and murdered pretty much anything
did i mention that i murdered it throught the corners.... completely ripped it apart
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
i was just talking about traction issues
if i wanted an american piece of **** i wouldve got a z06 and murdered pretty much anything
did i mention that i murdered it throught the corners.... completely ripped it apart
if i wanted an american piece of **** i wouldve got a z06 and murdered pretty much anything
did i mention that i murdered it throught the corners.... completely ripped it apart
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
wanna race? ill meet u halfway
im not talking about drag racing, there are plenty of gto's out here 4 that.
canyon driving
im not talking about drag racing, there are plenty of gto's out here 4 that.
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Originally Posted by silv_w210
Just to let you guys know, GTO's have a lot of traction issues, this is why street tires seem to be an equalizer in many of the encouters you guys have mentioned. GTO's have a lot of torque and struggle for grip. Slap on some drag radials and the power of the GTO will be more obvious and the race will be more one-sided at least against a C32. GTO's are pigs on street tires, but once they have traction it's a different story
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Ohh just for your info he was not trying to race me cuz I was driving my Jeep that day.
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mention what?
no1 in my family has an american car (brother m3, dad ml55, mom e55, me clk55)
youre right the education here is horrible, when i moved here i was surprised, i was doin **** in 5th grade that i did in 1st in russia. the racing "chip" aint goin nowhere. champ
no1 in my family has an american car (brother m3, dad ml55, mom e55, me clk55)
youre right the education here is horrible, when i moved here i was surprised, i was doin **** in 5th grade that i did in 1st in russia. the racing "chip" aint goin nowhere.
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Originally Posted by tommycheng1728
can't you read your own post? you didn't mention it, and calling anything a piece of ***** is a pretty ignorant statement, you probably have some "american pieces of *****" that you love laying around? and I would think that if "your parents" can afford to buy a fine automobile like a CLK55 for you, your parents are probably putting you through school to get a pretty decent american piece of **** education, I personally would have handled the comment better, but I guess that is just you and I would have expected that from you. I would get that little "racing chip off your shoulder, but then again, thats just me also, so I guess I would leave you alone now and I hope next time you offer to meet anyone half way for a race, that you be careful, and don't hurt yourself, because there are a lot of ****ty american doctors out there, Have a good one champ
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
i was just talking about traction issues
if i wanted an american piece of **** i wouldve got a z06 and murdered pretty much anything
did i mention that i murdered it throught the corners.... completely ripped it apart
if i wanted an american piece of **** i wouldve got a z06 and murdered pretty much anything
did i mention that i murdered it throught the corners.... completely ripped it apart
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Originally Posted by tommycheng1728
you did not "mention" that you murdered it through (not "throught" there goes that ****ty education again) the corners. you seem to be king of "twisties" racing. I have a good kill story too........Check it out, I was racing this G4 jet right, first one through (not throught) the tunnel, and I completely killed it because it won't fit in the tunnel...I am the KING of tunnel racing!!! did I mention that I murdered it throuGH the tunnel...completely ripped it apart
you never press a key by accident when u type?
im not even gonna respond 2 the second part, how old r u?
is the c32 ur dads? and u got the gto and ur mom drives the ml..... i figured it out
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
you never press a key by accident when u type?
im not even gonna respond 2 the second part, how old r u?
is the c32 ur dads? and u got the gto and ur mom drives the ml..... i figured it out champ
im not even gonna respond 2 the second part, how old r u?
is the c32 ur dads? and u got the gto and ur mom drives the ml..... i figured it out
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Traction smaction, we were rolling at around 50 when we hit it. I didn't so much as hear a chirp.
I was merely making the observation that I appreciated the specs on the GTO and expected it to creep on me and eventually pass. I was surprised that we were so evenly accelerating.
This C32 is just one sweet car for the money, as is the GTO I'm sure. My american corvette and my german C36 were in the shop about as much as they were on the road, but I loved them both. So this thread was not meant to bash the GTO, it was in appreciation of both cars. I haven't even begun to push the C32, but I already know its highs and lows. Despite its awkward handling and its frightening maintenance record so far, it's going to take one hell of a car to get me to step out of this one for a few years.
I was merely making the observation that I appreciated the specs on the GTO and expected it to creep on me and eventually pass. I was surprised that we were so evenly accelerating.
This C32 is just one sweet car for the money, as is the GTO I'm sure. My american corvette and my german C36 were in the shop about as much as they were on the road, but I loved them both. So this thread was not meant to bash the GTO, it was in appreciation of both cars. I haven't even begun to push the C32, but I already know its highs and lows. Despite its awkward handling and its frightening maintenance record so far, it's going to take one hell of a car to get me to step out of this one for a few years.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
The best I've seen them run here in Vegas is a 14.1 and a 14.4 for last years GTO. A C32 should be able to beat the GTO too.
I ran a CL55 AMG last night here in Vegas...was it you? Sorry if I mixed up the models, I'm not familar w/the MB line...(asked about the car, 469/516 so it was the blown 5.4L)
If not...we tried
to run twice...not enough room/or traction for either of us...but on the 2nd run the AMG was beginning a slow pull once I got to into 3rd...Either way it fun...the guy and his passenger were cool as hell.
FWIW...the best I've been able to manage at the track is a 13.5 @ 105 here in LV (horrible 2.1s 60')...but that was prior to the tuning I just had done (eliminates torque management, also allows power shifting)...and this was when the DA was 3500'...
Another 05 here in Vegas (on same setup as me but has had his tune done) has turned in a 13.2 @ 109...on the crappy all-season rubber GM gave us
In stock form with a good driver/conditions the 05 GTO is good for high 12s/low 13s...
But the GTO is not a drag car by any means...4000lbs w/fuel and driver, coupled with 245 rubber on 17's, soft IRS setup, and a two piece driveshaft...it's a real ***** to launch these things until you bolt on DRs...
But I digress...I think the guy said his name was Ramone(?)...does anyone know him?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by AnotherGTO
Hey what's up...first post...I have an '05 GTO...
I ran a CL55 AMG last night here in Vegas...was it you? Sorry if I mixed up the models, I'm not familar w/the MB line...(asked about the car, 469/516 so it was the blown 5.4L)
If not...we tried to run twice...not enough room/or traction for either of us...but on the 2nd run the AMG was beginning a slow pull once I got to into 3rd...
Either way it fun...the guy and his passenger were cool as hell.
FWIW...the best I've been able to manage at the track is a 13.5 @ 105 here in LV (horrible 2.1s 60')...but that was prior to the tuning I just had done (eliminates torque management, also allows power shifting)...and this was when the DA was 3500'...
Another 05 here in Vegas (on same setup as me but has had his tune done) has turned in a 13.2 @ 109...on the crappy all-season rubber GM gave us
In stock form with a good driver/conditions the 05 GTO is good for high 12s/low 13s...
But the GTO is not a drag car by any means...4000lbs w/fuel and driver, coupled with 245 rubber on 17's, soft IRS setup, and a two piece driveshaft...it's a real ***** to launch these things until you bolt on DRs...
But I digress...I think the guy said his name was Ramone(?)...does anyone know him?
Thanks!
I ran a CL55 AMG last night here in Vegas...was it you? Sorry if I mixed up the models, I'm not familar w/the MB line...(asked about the car, 469/516 so it was the blown 5.4L)
If not...we tried
to run twice...not enough room/or traction for either of us...but on the 2nd run the AMG was beginning a slow pull once I got to into 3rd...Either way it fun...the guy and his passenger were cool as hell.
FWIW...the best I've been able to manage at the track is a 13.5 @ 105 here in LV (horrible 2.1s 60')...but that was prior to the tuning I just had done (eliminates torque management, also allows power shifting)...and this was when the DA was 3500'...
Another 05 here in Vegas (on same setup as me but has had his tune done) has turned in a 13.2 @ 109...on the crappy all-season rubber GM gave us
In stock form with a good driver/conditions the 05 GTO is good for high 12s/low 13s...
But the GTO is not a drag car by any means...4000lbs w/fuel and driver, coupled with 245 rubber on 17's, soft IRS setup, and a two piece driveshaft...it's a real ***** to launch these things until you bolt on DRs...
But I digress...I think the guy said his name was Ramone(?)...does anyone know him?
Thanks!
13.5 @ 105 and 13.2 @ 109 ... those are damn good times!!! I'm sorry but I've never seen those times on that particular car at the track and I'm a track junky (there everytime it's open). I'll be going to the track on 1/27 for test n tune. Please come up there and run your car and let's clear this up once and for all.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
No... that wasn't me. I have a silver c55.
13.5 @ 105 and 13.2 @ 109 ... those are damn good times!!! I'm sorry but I've never seen those times on that particular car at the track and I'm a track junky (there everytime it's open). I'll be going to the track on 1/27 for test n tune. Please come up there and run your car and let's clear this up once and for all.
13.5 @ 105 and 13.2 @ 109 ... those are damn good times!!! I'm sorry but I've never seen those times on that particular car at the track and I'm a track junky (there everytime it's open). I'll be going to the track on 1/27 for test n tune. Please come up there and run your car and let's clear this up once and for all.
Work usually gets interferes with fun, but I'm planning on excusing myself early that Friday
And I'm not surprised you haven't seen better times out of the GTOs...I've only made 7 or so passes...a couple of which I feathered out and coasted due to traction issues...a couple more where I did in fact go low 14s...
There's a group of us (GTO owners) that tries to get together and run @ the strip...most can't get into 13s (I haven't seen an 04 get into the 13s actually)...but it's not the car, it's the driver...
I look forward to meeting you...seems you've got yourself a real screamer there!
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Originally Posted by AnotherGTO
Oh I've already marked my calendar...gates open and close early, think it's an 11-5 event that day.
Work usually gets interferes with fun, but I'm planning on excusing myself early that Friday
Work usually gets interferes with fun, but I'm planning on excusing myself early that Friday
Me too! Working a half day.
Originally Posted by AnotherGTO
And I'm not surprised you haven't seen better times out of the GTOs...I've only made 7 or so passes...a couple of which I feathered out and coasted due to traction issues...a couple more where I did in fact go low 14s...
There's a group of us (GTO owners) that tries to get together and run @ the strip...most can't get into 13s (I haven't seen an 04 get into the 13s actually)...but it's not the car, it's the driver...
I look forward to meeting you...seems you've got yourself a real screamer there!
There's a group of us (GTO owners) that tries to get together and run @ the strip...most can't get into 13s (I haven't seen an 04 get into the 13s actually)...but it's not the car, it's the driver...
I look forward to meeting you...seems you've got yourself a real screamer there!
I too look forward to meeting you!
BTW -- It could have been my buddies CL65 you raced. Was it on the street? Was it a 2-door coupe? The CL65 is not a v8 though... it's a v12-twin turbo.
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Originally Posted by dragonAMG
Cool! Me too! Working a half day.
You're absolutely right... it can definitely be all driver and I know as well as anyone... it's all about traction. My car varies from 11.9-12.5 depending on traction.
I too look forward to meeting you!
BTW -- It could have been my buddies CL65 you raced. Was it on the street? Was it a 2-door coupe? The CL65 is not a v8 though... it's a v12-twin turbo.
Me too! Working a half day.You're absolutely right... it can definitely be all driver and I know as well as anyone... it's all about traction. My car varies from 11.9-12.5 depending on traction.
I too look forward to meeting you!
BTW -- It could have been my buddies CL65 you raced. Was it on the street? Was it a 2-door coupe? The CL65 is not a v8 though... it's a v12-twin turbo.
Since I don't have a MB, nor the ability to tell one model from the next
(my ignorance is showing)...I probably won't stay active on this forum over the next few weeks , but I'll shoot you a PM as we get closer to the 27th...See ya!
Oh...11.9 - 12.5s? That's pretty damn consistent in my book...
