GTOs are always ready to play
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GTOs are always ready to play
I am starting to see them everywhere and I just can't say no. Apparently, neither can they.
This time I was exiting the freeway close to home and my wife was beside me, which usually means lost opportunities when it comes to roadplay.
6.0 at the stopsign, seemed as if he was waiting for someone, anyone to give him a run.
So I start by telling her that "these things kick ***, 400 horses and blah, blah, blah. Probably smoke me. Surprise, surprise she says go for it.
He takes off slowly and allows me to catch up to him after we both take a 90 degree left. Noses even we cruise for a bit longer sizing each other up. I was hoping he would jump on it so I could watch from his rear quarter to see how we did, but after a few seconds I decided to nail it. The great thing is he nailed at the same time or very close after, as he was right with me but behind by a half-length.
I expected him to start slowly pulling on me but it never happened. We were glued together for about 7 seconds and then the road was done so we reined it in.
He went left and I went right, with a satisified grin on my face and my wife saying "holy sh$t!"
This time I was exiting the freeway close to home and my wife was beside me, which usually means lost opportunities when it comes to roadplay.
6.0 at the stopsign, seemed as if he was waiting for someone, anyone to give him a run.
So I start by telling her that "these things kick ***, 400 horses and blah, blah, blah. Probably smoke me. Surprise, surprise she says go for it.
He takes off slowly and allows me to catch up to him after we both take a 90 degree left. Noses even we cruise for a bit longer sizing each other up. I was hoping he would jump on it so I could watch from his rear quarter to see how we did, but after a few seconds I decided to nail it. The great thing is he nailed at the same time or very close after, as he was right with me but behind by a half-length.
I expected him to start slowly pulling on me but it never happened. We were glued together for about 7 seconds and then the road was done so we reined it in.
He went left and I went right, with a satisified grin on my face and my wife saying "holy sh$t!"
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You were lucky....maybe not a great shifter on the GTO. They will kill you in any shape or form (dead stop, rolling 1st or 2nd or 3rd gears).
I "raced" NormC32 (old C32 owner....now a black GTO owner) and there was no way I could compete.....he killed me every single time!
Now that I have the SLK55 I [I]MAY[/I] have a slightly better chance! Those things are fast.
PS: were were both stock. Now he has a Corsa exhaust(lighter than stock and a kick *** note) and something like 17 pound wheels on each corner; I'm still stock!
JMC
I "raced" NormC32 (old C32 owner....now a black GTO owner) and there was no way I could compete.....he killed me every single time!
Now that I have the SLK55 I [I]MAY[/I] have a slightly better chance! Those things are fast.
PS: were were both stock. Now he has a Corsa exhaust(lighter than stock and a kick *** note) and something like 17 pound wheels on each corner; I'm still stock!
JMC
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Originally Posted by jcanabal
You were lucky....maybe not a great shifter on the GTO. They will kill you in any shape or form (dead stop, rolling 1st or 2nd or 3rd gears).
I "raced" NormC32 (old C32 owner....now a black GTO owner) and there was no way I could compete.....he killed me every single time!
Now that I have the SLK55 I [I]MAY[/I] have a slightly better chance! Those things are fast.
PS: were were both stock. Now he has a Corsa exhaust(lighter than stock and a kick *** note) and something like 17 pound wheels on each corner; I'm still stock!
JMC
I "raced" NormC32 (old C32 owner....now a black GTO owner) and there was no way I could compete.....he killed me every single time!
Now that I have the SLK55 I [I]MAY[/I] have a slightly better chance! Those things are fast.
PS: were were both stock. Now he has a Corsa exhaust(lighter than stock and a kick *** note) and something like 17 pound wheels on each corner; I'm still stock!
JMC
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I'll tell you in the Spring!
Maybe if it stops snowing and we have a dry road and we are both not working then...
I have to admit the number GTO's put down are VERY respectable (0-60 etc) (not entirely sure of the exact numbers but...)
JMC
Maybe if it stops snowing and we have a dry road and we are both not working then...
I have to admit the number GTO's put down are VERY respectable (0-60 etc) (not entirely sure of the exact numbers but...)
JMC
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Originally Posted by jcanabal
I'll tell you in the Spring!
Maybe if it stops snowing and we have a dry road and we are both not working then...
I have to admit the number GTO's put down are VERY respectable (0-60 etc) (not entirely sure of the exact numbers but...)
JMC
Maybe if it stops snowing and we have a dry road and we are both not working then...
I have to admit the number GTO's put down are VERY respectable (0-60 etc) (not entirely sure of the exact numbers but...)
JMC
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jcanabal and I went at when he had his stock C32. Like he said the '05 6.0 GTO pulled at any speed and any gear on the C32.
With about 2,000 miles I ran 13.2 @ 107 MPH, spinning the tires every gear change. Even 3-4 change. This was on 400 wear rating all-season tires. Don't know why GM would put all-season tires on a 400hp car aside from keeping it off the bumper of a Vette. I do over 20 track days with the Audi Club and MBCA per year with about 20K miles currently. So it should be ready for the white SLK55.
I have a digital camera and jcanabal and I will get some video this spring.
Norm
With about 2,000 miles I ran 13.2 @ 107 MPH, spinning the tires every gear change. Even 3-4 change. This was on 400 wear rating all-season tires. Don't know why GM would put all-season tires on a 400hp car aside from keeping it off the bumper of a Vette. I do over 20 track days with the Audi Club and MBCA per year with about 20K miles currently. So it should be ready for the white SLK55.
I have a digital camera and jcanabal and I will get some video this spring.
Norm
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Originally Posted by Norm C32
jcanabal and I went at when he had his stock C32. Like he said the '05 6.0 GTO pulled at any speed and any gear on the C32.
With about 2,000 miles I ran 13.2 @ 107 MPH, spinning the tires every gear change. Even 3-4 change. This was on 400 wear rating all-season tires. Don't know why GM would put all-season tires on a 400hp car aside from keeping it off the bumper of a Vette. I do over 20 track days with the Audi Club and MBCA per year with about 20K miles currently. So it should be ready for the white SLK55.
I have a digital camera and jcanabal and I will get some video this spring.
Norm
With about 2,000 miles I ran 13.2 @ 107 MPH, spinning the tires every gear change. Even 3-4 change. This was on 400 wear rating all-season tires. Don't know why GM would put all-season tires on a 400hp car aside from keeping it off the bumper of a Vette. I do over 20 track days with the Audi Club and MBCA per year with about 20K miles currently. So it should be ready for the white SLK55.
I have a digital camera and jcanabal and I will get some video this spring.
Norm
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have both
I have a stock 2002 C32 AMG and a 2005 Automatic GTO and they both feel the same to me, the GTO feels only a little bit faster, but I haven't really broken it in yet, it has less than 200 miles on it now.
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Originally Posted by tommycheng1728
I have a stock 2002 C32 AMG and a 2005 Automatic GTO and they both feel the same to me, the GTO feels only a little bit faster, but I haven't really broken it in yet, it has less than 200 miles on it now.
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i have a clk55 209 w/ exhaust (muffler only) and k&n filters
i raced a gto up to about 85 (he had exhaust 4 sure) from about a 10-15 mph roll. we were dead even the whole time, until the corners came, i was all over him. :v
it was the 6.0 version.
a slk55 should have no problem eatin a stock 1 for breakfast lunch dinner and desert :p
i raced a gto up to about 85 (he had exhaust 4 sure) from about a 10-15 mph roll. we were dead even the whole time, until the corners came, i was all over him. :v
it was the 6.0 version.
a slk55 should have no problem eatin a stock 1 for breakfast lunch dinner and desert :p
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Sounds like we're all back to the reality that the outcome of a race between two cars in roughly the same performance category will vary from car to car and day to day.
C32s in particular seem to really vary from car to car and day to day. Just look at Evosport's dynos. . . some have as little as 260 RWHP stock, some have as much as 300. Also, we all know the diff between a cold and hot day for C32 performance.
The simple reality is this: In a race between a C32 and a GTO, the odds are probably slightly on the GTO. However, given 100 chance encounters, the C32 will probably win 20 or 30 of them. In other words, it does not make sense to make absurd, absolute statements like "the GTO will kick a stock C32 any day, any time."
Select a particularly fast, stock C32, and a particularly slow, stock GTO, make it a cold day, and the C32 will probably win. Average day, average cars, and the GTO probably wins.
C32s in particular seem to really vary from car to car and day to day. Just look at Evosport's dynos. . . some have as little as 260 RWHP stock, some have as much as 300. Also, we all know the diff between a cold and hot day for C32 performance.
The simple reality is this: In a race between a C32 and a GTO, the odds are probably slightly on the GTO. However, given 100 chance encounters, the C32 will probably win 20 or 30 of them. In other words, it does not make sense to make absurd, absolute statements like "the GTO will kick a stock C32 any day, any time."
Select a particularly fast, stock C32, and a particularly slow, stock GTO, make it a cold day, and the C32 will probably win. Average day, average cars, and the GTO probably wins.
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Originally Posted by tommycheng1728
I have a stock 2002 C32 AMG and a 2005 Automatic GTO and they both feel the same to me, the GTO feels only a little bit faster, but I haven't really broken it in yet, it has less than 200 miles on it now.
im not talkin **** in any way shape or form
why would u buy an auto gto when u already have an auto c32?
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
im not talkin **** in any way shape or form
why would u buy an auto gto when u already have an auto c32?
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why would u buy an auto gto when u already have an auto c32?
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Originally Posted by tommycheng1728
always liked auto cars, besides, auto gto is .1 sec faster than 6sp gto, weird huh? says so in owners manuel
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Originally Posted by AMG_55
that is weird, isnt it a 4 speed auto?
A 4-speed automatic transmission with overdrive is standard, and a 6-speed manual transmission with overdrive is optional.
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the chances are that if the c32 is in the wrong gear or rpm range, its over.
The torque of the GTO would make it easier to get it moving from a roll and probably take the early jump.
As far the C55, the torque is almost the same, since the C55 weighs lighter. HP is almost a toss us as well, since weight is in the C55's favor..
400/395 38xxlbs
362/376 35xxlbs
Definately the C55 and the GTO is a toss us SALAD.
GTO and C32... C32 needs the jump to stay ahead.
I have never raced a 5.7 or 6.0, since I know most of them will either have a exhaust, headers, intake or some sort of combo mod.
From a dig C32/C55 probably can get a jump (easier to launch). Wheel spin would be hard to rein in for the GTO.
I would not race a 6.0 in my C32, since I think the GTO 6.0 has a power advantage that my stock C32 can not make up. I need a pulley and ECU and maybe I'll try it when given the chance.
The torque of the GTO would make it easier to get it moving from a roll and probably take the early jump.
As far the C55, the torque is almost the same, since the C55 weighs lighter. HP is almost a toss us as well, since weight is in the C55's favor..
400/395 38xxlbs
362/376 35xxlbs
Definately the C55 and the GTO is a toss us SALAD.
GTO and C32... C32 needs the jump to stay ahead.
I have never raced a 5.7 or 6.0, since I know most of them will either have a exhaust, headers, intake or some sort of combo mod.
From a dig C32/C55 probably can get a jump (easier to launch). Wheel spin would be hard to rein in for the GTO.
I would not race a 6.0 in my C32, since I think the GTO 6.0 has a power advantage that my stock C32 can not make up. I need a pulley and ECU and maybe I'll try it when given the chance.
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Originally Posted by ricky.agrawal
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
the chances are that if the c32 is in the wrong gear or rpm range, its over.
The torque of the GTO would make it easier to get it moving from a roll and probably take the early jump.
As far the C55, the torque is almost the same, since the C55 weighs lighter. HP is almost a toss us as well, since weight is in the C55's favor..
400/395 38xxlbs
362/376 35xxlbs
Definately the C55 and the GTO is a toss us SALAD.
GTO and C32... C32 needs the jump to stay ahead.
I have never raced a 5.7 or 6.0, since I know most of them will either have a exhaust, headers, intake or some sort of combo mod.
From a dig C32/C55 probably can get a jump (easier to launch). Wheel spin would be hard to rein in for the GTO.
I would not race a 6.0 in my C32, since I think the GTO 6.0 has a power advantage that my stock C32 can not make up. I need a pulley and ECU and maybe I'll try it when given the chance.
The torque of the GTO would make it easier to get it moving from a roll and probably take the early jump.
As far the C55, the torque is almost the same, since the C55 weighs lighter. HP is almost a toss us as well, since weight is in the C55's favor..
400/395 38xxlbs
362/376 35xxlbs
Definately the C55 and the GTO is a toss us SALAD.
GTO and C32... C32 needs the jump to stay ahead.
I have never raced a 5.7 or 6.0, since I know most of them will either have a exhaust, headers, intake or some sort of combo mod.
From a dig C32/C55 probably can get a jump (easier to launch). Wheel spin would be hard to rein in for the GTO.
I would not race a 6.0 in my C32, since I think the GTO 6.0 has a power advantage that my stock C32 can not make up. I need a pulley and ECU and maybe I'll try it when given the chance.
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I will pull the trigger if called upon..
like a self defense mechanism..
i'm not a offensive driver... however if a punk with an M3, STI, EVO, GTO, Mustang cuts me off or performs an insulting manuver like a fly or driving 3"s from my ***, then by all mean IT IS A GO.
I don't really think a GTO has been rude to me while driving and I don't want to be looked like a ***** with a C32, therefore I don't start the race either.
I think that is what I really was trying to say on my ealier post. I don't have the horsepower to start something, but i have enough to be ready just in case.
so NO, i'm not scared of a race witha GTO and I just dont race a cars i know I can beat.
like a self defense mechanism..
i'm not a offensive driver... however if a punk with an M3, STI, EVO, GTO, Mustang cuts me off or performs an insulting manuver like a fly or driving 3"s from my ***, then by all mean IT IS A GO.
I don't really think a GTO has been rude to me while driving and I don't want to be looked like a ***** with a C32, therefore I don't start the race either.
I think that is what I really was trying to say on my ealier post. I don't have the horsepower to start something, but i have enough to be ready just in case.
so NO, i'm not scared of a race witha GTO and I just dont race a cars i know I can beat.
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What can I say? It was dead even the whole way. End of story. I think these cars are closer than everyone thinks. Paper just doesn't tell the tale as does throwing the hammer down when you're side by side.
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close?
close in terms of peformance, but not in terms creature comforts like sunroof or navigation and the all important.............. STICKER PRICE!!!! 
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Originally Posted by ralleyone
What can I say? It was dead even the whole way. End of story. I think these cars are closer than everyone thinks. Paper just doesn't tell the tale as does throwing the hammer down when you're side by side.
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I raced a friend of mine from a stoplight, who has an 03 with the 350 hp engine in it. We were pretty close off the line, but i was 3-4 lengths ahead when i stopped around 95. That being said i would think the 400 hp version would be slightly faster than a C32, but slightly slower than a C55.
