I am very disappointed with Mercedes
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Originally Posted by Substance
330i vs. C55 .....330i only if you cant afford that extra 20k.
330i vs. C350..... I would go for the C350.
330i(e90) new body new everything...older engine and (not sure) old tranny from e46.
C350(w203). older body..new interior..new engine and tranny(6 sp manual or 7 sp auto)
better solution ...wait for 350i and C350 (w204)....then they will be both very compatable vehicles.
330i vs. C350..... I would go for the C350.
330i(e90) new body new everything...older engine and (not sure) old tranny from e46.
C350(w203). older body..new interior..new engine and tranny(6 sp manual or 7 sp auto)
better solution ...wait for 350i and C350 (w204)....then they will be both very compatable vehicles.
330i E90 has the new engine ~258hp vs E46 330i's ~230+hp.
The E90 has 6 speed Steptronic which only shows up in very recent E46 ZHP models. I never tested a 7Gtronic but I am happy with the E90 6sp auto already; so I am sure the 7G is as smooth and better. If someone wants a Benz now , C350 is a good choice if he does not care newer technology from the E90 such as iDrive, Comfort Access(keyless Go),Active Steering, xDrive (4WD) which the W203 does not offer.
You are right, wait for the W204 C350 , I am sure a fully loaded one will be fun! ( My wish is the W204 will have paranomic moon roof, keyless go and a parking camera !
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
If you took offense because someone on this board called the M3 a civic... please grow up.
This is a public forum board, we can say just about anything about a car.
We have rules about what can we say or not. If it pertains about a car, we have full freedom of expressing it.
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This is a public forum board, we can say just about anything about a car.
We have rules about what can we say or not. If it pertains about a car, we have full freedom of expressing it.
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Oh don’t worry about it, I didn’t take offense, I was merely bringing it up to show how people shoot off ignorant things.
All I did was defend one guy for "saying just anything about a car" All I did was voice my opinion on why I would take a 330i over a c55... So I guess I was doing EXACTLY what you just said we could do.
I am truly sorry for starting this argument. I guess now everyone can have their own option on a car, only if that opinion is agreed upon by everyone...
I don’t have rationalize to spend 20k more on a 60k car to justify it being better for the sake of having a "better" car, the 330i is better to me, even though it lacks the HP. But you know what? That’s my opinion...
As far as "Miata or S2000 and beat down M3's on the track." why don’t YOU go buy a Miata or S2000? I guess if they are so much better. Because I am better you would like a Mercedes over one of those... Just like I would like a 330i over a c55.
No one can have a car that is perfect at everything, so you have to pick and choose what you want.
Again I am very sorry I started this, next time I have an opinion that goes against what most people would agree with I will just pretend like I agree with everyone else, even though secretly inside I wont.
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Originally Posted by User Name
Uhh exactly!
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As far as "Miata or S2000 and beat down M3's on the track." why don’t YOU go buy a Miata or S2000? I guess if they are so much better. Because I am better you would like a Mercedes over one of those... Just like I would like a 330i over a c55.
No one can have a car that is perfect at everything, so you have to pick and choose what you want.
Again I am very sorry I started this, next time I have an opinion that goes against what most people would agree with I will just pretend like I agree with everyone else, even though secretly inside I wont.
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As far as "Miata or S2000 and beat down M3's on the track." why don’t YOU go buy a Miata or S2000? I guess if they are so much better. Because I am better you would like a Mercedes over one of those... Just like I would like a 330i over a c55.
No one can have a car that is perfect at everything, so you have to pick and choose what you want.
Again I am very sorry I started this, next time I have an opinion that goes against what most people would agree with I will just pretend like I agree with everyone else, even though secretly inside I wont.
FYI, I was planning to get a new S2000 but the Honda sales people decided they were too good to help a potential customer out. Poor me, headed over to the MB dealership that same night and came home with a C55 instead.
It's funny how I catch the same amount of flak over on E46fanatics when I disagree with them. At least the members here on MBworld will give you reasons why they think their car is better. On E46fanatics they'll just say your car sucks and be done.
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the 330i is better to me, even though it lacks the HP. But you know what? That’s my opinion...
you should be 
Grow up and don't act like you didn't want a response, what is better to you is not the point. The point is why would you think to post that HERE instead of on a BMW forum? What are you 12 years old?
you should be Grow up and don't act like you didn't want a response, what is better to you is not the point. The point is why would you think to post that HERE instead of on a BMW forum? What are you 12 years old?
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Originally Posted by User Name
You guys are the biggest ignorant bigots ever. Honestly...
Aside from this guy being said "troll" all he did was voice his opinion. To some people there is more to a car than a "plush leather interior" and looking down and smiling with glee when you see that automatic transmission...
I would say both are comparable, but while Mercedes holds up almost a luxury end of the deal, I think the BMW is going to be more of a true sports car. Like someone mentioned on this board, its going to take a c55 in the twisties. They have a similar structure, power, and probably handling. But its going to be the drivers opinion on which one is more of a twisty sports car.
And WTF... 0-60 and 1/4 mile times??? What the hell does that prove?, no german car was engineered to be a retarded American drag rat, that’s the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
I would take a 330i over a c55 any day. I personally like to choose my own gears when I drive and I don’t need to have an overdone leather luxury palace of an interior to enjoy my car. Hell, I would take cloth over leather anytime.
I plan to get a Mercedes some day for a nice luxury car, but until then I will enjoy a proper German sports car.
Uh wait, last I heard we were talking about the 330i? What’s this m5/m6 crap? Where as Mercedes has never majorly produced a manual transmission on any car? Now, since you seem to be pretty thick headed let me follow up with this, I am NOT saying they NEVER did, I am saying they hardly did in respect to how many autos were produced...
How am I ignorant? Because I have an opinion that I am not forcing upon others? On how MB obviously pwns BMW in every respect? Where did I say MB cant make a nice car? They make nice cars, its just not for the most part a true sports car like BMWs.
Just because the supposed "whole industry" is going away from manuals doesn’t make it better. Its just because retarded people like you who have a lot of money and want to show it don’t feel like having the hassle of having to shift gears, but you want your name brand...
I’m not the one calling out the m3 as a civic.. Its your generalized bull**** that makes baby Jesus cry.
Uhh exactly!
Oh don’t worry about it, I didn’t take offense, I was merely bringing it up to show how people shoot off ignorant things.
All I did was defend one guy for "saying just anything about a car" All I did was voice my opinion on why I would take a 330i over a c55... So I guess I was doing EXACTLY what you just said we could do.
I am truly sorry for starting this argument. I guess now everyone can have their own option on a car, only if that opinion is agreed upon by everyone...
I don’t have rationalize to spend 20k more on a 60k car to justify it being better for the sake of having a "better" car, the 330i is better to me, even though it lacks the HP. But you know what? That’s my opinion...
As far as "Miata or S2000 and beat down M3's on the track." why don’t YOU go buy a Miata or S2000? I guess if they are so much better. Because I am better you would like a Mercedes over one of those... Just like I would like a 330i over a c55.
No one can have a car that is perfect at everything, so you have to pick and choose what you want.
Again I am very sorry I started this, next time I have an opinion that goes against what most people would agree with I will just pretend like I agree with everyone else, even though secretly inside I wont.
User Name
You are nothing but a mouth of smelly sht hole to me and a big disgrace to all of the Benz and BMW owners on the Internet. All you need to say, is you want a manual transmission and that Benz does not offer it. Instead, you have taken every opportunity to feed fcking sht to this group.
You have no soul, you don't deserve a BMW , neither you deserve a Mecedes. Your perception about German cars itself is a big failure and you were a fcking big liar to BS us 0-100km is no fcking big deal and it is only you can't fcking justify a merely 20K.
Every E90 owner I met are investing huge $$$$ to replace every part of their E90 with AC Schnitzer that possible (if you have an idea how much a AC Schnitzer carbon fibre tower bar is priced). E90s I saw are fully loaded with iDrive, Keyless Comfort Access, Surround Sound, Back-blind curtains. Is that only YOU don't have fcking a clue what luxury cars are or just you can't afford a fully loaded car? You ARE such a big pusy liar !
( fck me laughing man if you would take cloth instead of leather )
I have heard E90 owners were in such a panic to debadge their cars just because the rumour of a 335i ; and it is YOU bullsht us bimmer lovers don't fcking care about displacement.
Get the fck out of here!
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this must be the funniest thread ever....
a 330 better than a C55 LOL.....
im an S4 driver and have buddies with both a C55 and a 330i....
man o man...the 330i cannot even compare with the luxury to the C55 let alone in pure driving experince....
MBluver....man....i guess u got the right to air ur opinion....
but im sure u urself knwo how ridiculous that post of urs is LOL
this must be the funniest thread ever....
a 330 better than a C55 LOL.....
im an S4 driver and have buddies with both a C55 and a 330i....
man o man...the 330i cannot even compare with the luxury to the C55 let alone in pure driving experince....
MBluver....man....i guess u got the right to air ur opinion....
but im sure u urself knwo how ridiculous that post of urs is LOL
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i currently drive the b7 a4..well anyways in search of info on upgrading to either the c55 or the new c63 i stumbled on this thread.
anyways 2 of my friends own the c32 and 330i... and they decided to have a lil fun...dam..it wasnt even a race...c32 headed from the start to the end...im not saying the 330i is slow but even compared to the older c32 amg platform is was no competition....
anyways back to my purpose here...not trying to steal a thread but id ont wanna start a new one..but so many people come read this post ...is the c63 going to release in year end 2007 or early 2008?
anyways 2 of my friends own the c32 and 330i... and they decided to have a lil fun...dam..it wasnt even a race...c32 headed from the start to the end...im not saying the 330i is slow but even compared to the older c32 amg platform is was no competition....
anyways back to my purpose here...not trying to steal a thread but id ont wanna start a new one..but so many people come read this post ...is the c63 going to release in year end 2007 or early 2008?
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
you choose your own gears.. meaning what? manual transmission.
Well the New M5/M6 does not come in manual yet. So go ahead a flame your own BMW god, for not making a true manual transmission for your super sedan and coupe.
Just face it, the whole industry is going away from the manual transmissions. SMG (single, dual clutch) is the way to go. Yes you can choose your own gears with SMG.
Also, if 1/4 or (1000 meter) times were not important, they would not be published in every German, British, American automobile magazine in the world. The fact of the matter, those are true performance measures in every day driving.
By the way, thanks for affirming your ignorance.
Well the New M5/M6 does not come in manual yet. So go ahead a flame your own BMW god, for not making a true manual transmission for your super sedan and coupe.
Just face it, the whole industry is going away from the manual transmissions. SMG (single, dual clutch) is the way to go. Yes you can choose your own gears with SMG.
Also, if 1/4 or (1000 meter) times were not important, they would not be published in every German, British, American automobile magazine in the world. The fact of the matter, those are true performance measures in every day driving.
By the way, thanks for affirming your ignorance.
Greetings, (1st post)
My opinion mirror USER NAME's somewhat and both car manufacturers produce excellent cars. Although, their target audience isn't the same...! I'm sure alot of you understand this... but in reading this thread there are many that do not.
It's quit obvious that the TS is "trolling" but then again that was his OPINION. Alot of what came next is rediculious and bias. Both Mercedes and BMW are excellent cars, albeit for a different segment. BMW specializes on performance while MB targets comfort.
Having 400HP and being able to use 400hp are 2 different things.
Topgun32, your ignorantly assumed that SMG is some sort of automatic. The M5 is a manual. SMG (Sequential Manual Gearbox) manually shift gears when you order it to do so via the steering wheel "paddle" instead of the row-box. It's mechanical, just like all BMW gas pedals, they actually have no mechanical connection from pedal to the throttle... it's throttle by WIRE.
SMG is a true manual, except the linkage is connected electronically (Exactly like the driver gas pedal, throttle). So, if you hook those input (paddle levers)into a seperate computer and run a program that gives the inputs to the tranny for you = seemless automatic transmission. Yet it's actually a sophisticated program shifting gears instead of the driver. SMG can simulate and automatic transmission.
In the end a test drive is not enough to get aquinted to either vehicle. The C55 AMG is $18,000 more than the e90 330i. Those cars cannot be directly compaired. However, the C350 and 330ci can. And it's just a matter of what you enjoy in a car... Luxury over performance, or vice versa.
Performace is the whole package and not just 0-62 times.
*On a side note, BMW is about to announce the release of their 3-series coupe (e92) called the 335ci.. replacing the 330ci. Knowing that Mereces or BMW we are all car buffs and engine junkies I thought this would be an interesting read. N54 BMW's new 3-series engine (low boost)
BTW, great board you guy have over here
-Garrett
Last edited by Garrett; Feb 22, 2006 at 06:16 AM.
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Heck, I wasn't looking for it but I found where the troll got the photos of the black C55 from:
http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/...a/1443382.aspx
Shame, Shame, Shame indeed!
http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/...a/1443382.aspx
Shame, Shame, Shame indeed!
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Originally Posted by OZC32AMG
Heck, I wasn't looking for it but I found where the troll got the photos of the black C55 from:
http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/...a/1443382.aspx
Shame, Shame, Shame indeed!
http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/...a/1443382.aspx
Shame, Shame, Shame indeed!
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Originally Posted by Garrett
Greetings, (1st post)
My opinion mirror USER NAME's somewhat and both car manufacturers produce excellent cars. Although, their target audience isn't the same...! I'm sure alot of you understand this... but in reading this thread there are many that do not.
It's quit obvious that the TS is "trolling" but then again that was his OPINION. Alot of what came next is rediculious and bias. Both Mercedes and BMW are excellent cars, albeit for a different segment. BMW specializes on performance while MB targets comfort.
Having 400HP and being able to use 400hp are 2 different things.
Topgun32, your ignorantly assumed that SMG is some sort of automatic. The M5 is a manual. SMG (Sequential Manual Gearbox) manually shift gears when you order it to do so via the steering wheel "paddle" instead of the row-box. It's mechanical, just like all BMW gas pedals, they actually have no mechanical connection from pedal to the throttle... it's throttle by WIRE.
SMG is a true manual, except the linkage is connected electronically (Exactly like the driver gas pedal, throttle). So, if you hook those input (paddle levers)into a seperate computer and run a program that gives the inputs to the tranny for you = seemless automatic transmission. Yet it's actually a sophisticated program shifting gears instead of the driver. SMG can simulate and automatic transmission.
In the end a test drive is not enough to get aquinted to either vehicle. The C55 AMG is $18,000 more than the e90 330i. Those cars cannot be directly compaired. However, the C350 and 330ci can. And it's just a matter of what you enjoy in a car... Luxury over performance, or vice versa.
Performace is the whole package and not just 0-62 times.
*On a side note, BMW is about to announce the release of their 3-series coupe (e92) called the 335ci.. replacing the 330ci. Knowing that Mereces or BMW we are all car buffs and engine junkies I thought this would be an interesting read. N54 BMW's new 3-series engine (low boost)
BTW, great board you guy have over here
-Garrett
My opinion mirror USER NAME's somewhat and both car manufacturers produce excellent cars. Although, their target audience isn't the same...! I'm sure alot of you understand this... but in reading this thread there are many that do not.
It's quit obvious that the TS is "trolling" but then again that was his OPINION. Alot of what came next is rediculious and bias. Both Mercedes and BMW are excellent cars, albeit for a different segment. BMW specializes on performance while MB targets comfort.
Having 400HP and being able to use 400hp are 2 different things.
Topgun32, your ignorantly assumed that SMG is some sort of automatic. The M5 is a manual. SMG (Sequential Manual Gearbox) manually shift gears when you order it to do so via the steering wheel "paddle" instead of the row-box. It's mechanical, just like all BMW gas pedals, they actually have no mechanical connection from pedal to the throttle... it's throttle by WIRE.
SMG is a true manual, except the linkage is connected electronically (Exactly like the driver gas pedal, throttle). So, if you hook those input (paddle levers)into a seperate computer and run a program that gives the inputs to the tranny for you = seemless automatic transmission. Yet it's actually a sophisticated program shifting gears instead of the driver. SMG can simulate and automatic transmission.
In the end a test drive is not enough to get aquinted to either vehicle. The C55 AMG is $18,000 more than the e90 330i. Those cars cannot be directly compaired. However, the C350 and 330ci can. And it's just a matter of what you enjoy in a car... Luxury over performance, or vice versa.
Performace is the whole package and not just 0-62 times.
*On a side note, BMW is about to announce the release of their 3-series coupe (e92) called the 335ci.. replacing the 330ci. Knowing that Mereces or BMW we are all car buffs and engine junkies I thought this would be an interesting read. N54 BMW's new 3-series engine (low boost)
BTW, great board you guy have over here
-Garrett
Garrett,
Welcome to MBWORLD!
To me, User Name is a sht hole because he spoke for a troll.
cnt
p.s.
Since when you started to appreciate a fcking expensive old man Benz?
That was not you that I know in the bimmer's forums?
I still remember your famous words
MB's are paper tigers ...!!
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Dude, are you a ****ing psycho? Yes BMWs are great, so are Benz. I am a BMW owner and I saw this thread threw a friend. A E90 330i vs a C55? What the **** are you smoking? I am not a Benz lover, I am a BMW lover. I could careless if I get bashed on this forum, I just had to make a remark. As a BMW enthusiast, I would take C55 over a E90 330i ANYDAY of the week. Now a M3 or a M5? BMW beats Benz with performance sedans and coupes. But, Benz beats BMW with the interior design and natural comfort. If you would take a 330i over a C55, I'd gladly trade my Dinan 3 for your C55. If you like BMW so much better, come and join us, why you starting a whole thread knowing of the controversy it's going to cause? Sheesh.
http://www.bimmerforums.com
http://www.bimmerfest.com
Sign up and get a BMW, don't post crap in here. Benz = Comfort with perforamce BMW = Performance with comfort. Neither is better in one aspect. The ONE AND ONLY arguement I'd say is that a 760iL is better than a Benz, but I cannot make that assumption since I've never riden in the new Benz's. Enjoy pissing everyone off you retard. Don't do that crap on BMW forums
http://www.bimmerforums.com
http://www.bimmerfest.com
Sign up and get a BMW, don't post crap in here. Benz = Comfort with perforamce BMW = Performance with comfort. Neither is better in one aspect. The ONE AND ONLY arguement I'd say is that a 760iL is better than a Benz, but I cannot make that assumption since I've never riden in the new Benz's. Enjoy pissing everyone off you retard. Don't do that crap on BMW forums
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Originally Posted by cntlaw
Garrett,
Welcome to MBWORLD!
To me, User Name is a sht hole because he spoke for a troll.
cnt
p.s.
Since when you started to appreciate a fcking expensive old man Benz?
That was not you that I know in the bimmer's forums?
I still remember your famous words
MB's are paper tigers ...!!
Welcome to MBWORLD!
To me, User Name is a sht hole because he spoke for a troll.
cnt
p.s.
Since when you started to appreciate a fcking expensive old man Benz?
That was not you that I know in the bimmer's forums?
I still remember your famous words
MB's are paper tigers ...!!
Hello cnt,
I always appreciated Mercedes Benz. I still think the 1986 190e is one of the best cars to ever grace American soil. It's rally heritage and unmatched beauty is still the perfect look..!!
That said, I still stand by my previous posts. Typically... and I do say typically MB cannot handle their horsepower. You pay a premium for Mercedes and you get a good engine. But even you must admit that BMW offers more in terms of performance for the $$.
I think certain models look better than BMW's and their interiors are plush and unmatched, but I am a driver enthusiast. And I believe many who buy BMW's are the same. BMW does not offer the level of comfort or luxury than MB does, but then again they do not pertain too.
Every car is race bred and that evident in the technology and near perfect suspension they engineer.
I'm not saying MB cannot achieve this, because the undoubtadly can, but it will co$t you. I prefer Performance and refinement over luxury and HP.
-Garrett
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Originally Posted by Garrett
Hello cnt,
I always appreciated Mercedes Benz. I still think the 1986 190e is one of the best cars to ever grace American soil. It's rally heritage and unmatched beauty is still the perfect look..!!
That said, I still stand by my previous posts. Typically... and I do say typically MB cannot handle their horsepower. You pay a premium for Mercedes and you get a good engine. But even you must admit that BMW offers more in terms of performance for the $$.
I think certain models look better than BMW's and their interiors are plush and unmatched, but I am a driver enthusiast. And I believe many who buy BMW's are the same. BMW does not offer the level of comfort or luxury than MB does, but then again they do not pertain too.
Every car is race bred and that evident in the technology and near perfect suspension they engineer.
I'm not saying MB cannot achieve this, because the undoubtadly can, but it will co$t you. I prefer Performance and refinement over luxury and HP.
-Garrett
Great man
Good to see ya (and it was really you, 'cause your true signature reminded me 
) . Owners opinions are always biased in their 'home' forums.
Yes, some luxury MB models are considered 'over-priced'. I think MB knows that and that could be why AMG created a less expensive C55 AMG, which has a better 'price performance' and more practical comparing with the more luxury CLK55 with the same hp and setup.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
it's obvious that he was a troll and the same person that started the thread on bimmerforum as well username caz88r. As I've already said on bimmerforum that guy posted that he's in the market for a 05 320 or 05 C180 and then posted he's in the market for a 7-series and finally posted asking where he can find parts for his e46 320 in Australia while his profile says he drives a 330i.
Are you a detective ?
I am still puzzled how did you track him down....
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Originally Posted by FrankW
You must be that guy who has a 96 318ti that compared it with a 90's 190E which is infact from the 80's. What the hell do you know about a one being better than another? a E36 Ti doesn't even use the same suspension as a normal E36 sedan/coupe/convertible. Not even the interior of the ti is up to par with the real E36. There is a reason the E36 Ti are cheap my friend.
why don't you use your normal username "SDKmann" from bimmerforum?
why don't you use your normal username "SDKmann" from bimmerforum?
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This thread is amazing.... I don't know why you guys are so fanatic about the brand.... it's all corporate ploys added w/ OP's
opinion (wouldn't say if he was comparing 335/330i w/ C350/320 or M3 w/ C32/C55 or 325 w/ C230/240).Anyways, I don't doubt BMW could make a car w/ very close characteristics to MB (good engine, nose heavy, luxury, bad handling, etc. etc. etc. - you name it, even the design).
On the other hand, I don't doubt MB could make a car w/ very close characteristics to BMW (good handling, etc. etc. etc.).
Like a post saying... BMW and MB has slightly different market. If they share exactly the same pie end to end, they need to put more effort to compete (i.e. in service, warranty, etc.) and end consumers don't feel they have any choice except the brand itself... in the end, both BMW & MB becomes a commodity among themselves - where ppl just go for a cheaper one. Just think about Toyota Matrix vs. Pontiac Vibe, or Toyota Corolla vs. Geo Prizm. Not exactly the best example as they're joint venture... but let's say they're not. You'd go w/ the cheaper price or the brand (not the car) you think is better, correct?
So I think to reduce the competition effort, both BMW & MB and other car manuf. try to focus at few points.... as a result, given whatever limitation they have, they have to sacrifice other points....
As a result, consumers need to weigh which one they like more... so for me I usually go with what I like... I owned a bimmer before.... but this time, I own MB b/c the exterior/interior look is better (at least for now). May be 2-5-10 years from now, all of my cars are BMW.... or may be Honda... you'll never know.
OK enough
let's 
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Originally Posted by MrDinan
The ONE AND ONLY arguement I'd say is that a 760iL is better than a Benz, but I cannot make that assumption since I've never riden in the new Benz's.
if anyone wants a ultimate german sports car (road legal), get a porsche. if you can't afford it, get used. it seems that majority of BMW drivers whos never driven a porsche often fail to recognize that there is a far better handling car brand out there. BMW is not a ultimate german sports car. for anyone's sake, if a german brand has to be named the 'ultimate german sports car', it would be Mercedes Benz. just ask yourself one question: who came in second to Renault in the Formula 1 last year by a tiny margin? thank you have a good day.
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Originally Posted by termigni
LOL this line is funny as hell... please go drive in a S600, a.k.a benchmark in luxury sedan industry.
if anyone wants a ultimate german sports car (road legal), get a porsche. if you can't afford it, get used. it seems that majority of BMW drivers whos never driven a porsche often fail to recognize that there is a far better handling car brand out there. BMW is not a ultimate german sports car. for anyone's sake, if a german brand has to be named the 'ultimate german sports car', it would be Mercedes Benz. just ask yourself one question: who came in second to Renault in the Formula 1 last year by a tiny margin? thank you have a good day.
if anyone wants a ultimate german sports car (road legal), get a porsche. if you can't afford it, get used. it seems that majority of BMW drivers whos never driven a porsche often fail to recognize that there is a far better handling car brand out there. BMW is not a ultimate german sports car. for anyone's sake, if a german brand has to be named the 'ultimate german sports car', it would be Mercedes Benz. just ask yourself one question: who came in second to Renault in the Formula 1 last year by a tiny margin? thank you have a good day.
Racing V8's will be great... if only just to be able to say to a Nascar fan "Yeah, F1 get the exact same HP from a 2.4 liter V8...!"
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Originally Posted by Bimmers4ever
Are you retarded? The ti has a different suspention from the other E36s because it is a BETTER one! And the different interior is only on the sport and club sport models, and those interiors are also BETTER. Also the 190e is from the 80s, but so is the 3 series, so you have no excuse for it being crappy. Go to 318ti.org and try this crap, theyll put you in your place. How many MBs have a forum for a specific model? I didnt use SDKmann because I expected to be banned after my first post and then I would use SDKmann second, bimmers4ever seemed more appropriate for this thread.
for the E36 Ti, they didn't put the normal sedan/coupe rear suspension on the car because the rear overhang is way too short, so they had to change it to a simpler one. It's not because it is better.
The interior is also different because they want to seperate the Ti from the normal E36 and market as a CHEAPER car. 318ti.org? so that's where all the hatch go instead of bimmerforum eh. Honestly the Ti wasn't that bad, but you've obviously bought the ti for the wrong reason. e36 ti has better suspension than the e36 sedan/coupe/M3s? I'm laughing at you as a former E46 328Ci owner/enthusiast.FIY, W202, C32 AMG, AMG cars, W203, all have their own forums.
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gotta love these corporate b%tch boys here. I'm sure the MB and BMW execs will laugh while reading this forum.
The latest R&T 7 car comparison rated the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro and Subaru Legacy GT Spec. B above the mighty 325xi ... shocking
The latest R&T 7 car comparison rated the Audi A4 2.0T Quattro and Subaru Legacy GT Spec. B above the mighty 325xi ... shocking
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LOL this line is funny as hell... please go drive in a S600, a.k.a benchmark in luxury sedan industry.
if anyone wants a ultimate german sports car (road legal), get a porsche. if you can't afford it, get used. it seems that majority of BMW drivers whos never driven a porsche often fail to recognize that there is a far better handling car brand out there. BMW is not a ultimate german sports car. for anyone's sake, if a german brand has to be named the 'ultimate german sports car', it would be Mercedes Benz. just ask yourself one question: who came in second to Renault in the Formula 1 last year by a tiny margin? thank you have a good day.
if anyone wants a ultimate german sports car (road legal), get a porsche. if you can't afford it, get used. it seems that majority of BMW drivers whos never driven a porsche often fail to recognize that there is a far better handling car brand out there. BMW is not a ultimate german sports car. for anyone's sake, if a german brand has to be named the 'ultimate german sports car', it would be Mercedes Benz. just ask yourself one question: who came in second to Renault in the Formula 1 last year by a tiny margin? thank you have a good day.
I hate to bring you the facts as I will post links if you want them, but the new ///M5 (or ///M6.. same thing just the coupe) beats any car Benz can throw out. I mean if you don't believe, please feel free to ask me for sources.
Not hating on Benz, just throwing out what I was thrown at. As far as Porsche, the price tag is much heavier on such, and admit it... once you own a Benz or Bimmer, you stick to it, right? Loyalties are to both, BMW and MB. People that are dedicated to MB and only MB, will unlikely change their view of BMW, and vice versa.
