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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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I need a 4 door damn it.. are they planning to make the 335 in a sedan? That's one of the reason I didn't move from my 330 to an M3..
yes and its a few grand cheaper than the coupe...
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RawAMGpower
Here is some drag time info on it. Looks like it is slightly slower then a C55 and a C32.

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-9827.html

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-9852.html
that is the same car with Automobile mag...

torque comes in under 2k (all of it) and stays on until close to 5k rpms.


By the way, I'm only have and will refer to a C32 vs 335i. C55 traps higher.

however as you know.. it will be a matter of time, when these cars will hit high 12's at about 109+
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Is that the new M3 will get its *** kicked stock wise from a modified 335. 3 series have a ton of tuners that can get the suspension brakes aerodynamics, weight etc etc of the 335 into M3 territory. Then you have the engine which is going to be the angel of the mod community. This engine will almost definitely be cheaper and easier to modify than the new V8 that comes out in the new M3.

Price wise ... obviously a fully modified 335 (still stock motor) is going to be more expensive than a new stock M3. But if I had to choose ... I'd take the 335.

I can't image what is going to happen when someone fully builds that 335 motor for some much larger turbos or goes to a Single HUGE turbo.

Yeah yeah you can do the same for the new M3 ... its going to be a LOT more expensive. I should know I'm in that boat with the SLK55.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Is that the new M3 will get its *** kicked stock wise from a modified 335. 3 series have a ton of tuners that can get the suspension brakes aerodynamics, weight etc etc of the 335 into M3 territory. Then you have the engine which is going to be the angel of the mod community. This engine will almost definitely be cheaper and easier to modify than the new V8 that comes out in the new M3.

Price wise ... obviously a fully modified 335 (still stock motor) is going to be more expensive than a new stock M3. But if I had to choose ... I'd take the 335.

I can't image what is going to happen when someone fully builds that 335 motor for some much larger turbos or goes to a Single HUGE turbo.

Yeah yeah you can do the same for the new M3 ... its going to be a LOT more expensive. I should know I'm in that boat with the SLK55.

You are correct sir. The 335 is a BMW Supra, it will absolutely scream with a big single slapped on it. The major variable is how much boost the little beast can take before she detonates. But I have no doubt that people will be running around with 500hp examples of this thing by the springtime, and then we're all getting **** on.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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saw a white one on the road the other day. definitely a nice looking car in person except the tail light design being too soft.
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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My friend was telling me how these engines are prone to overheating?

He is a...BMW/MB/any other car hater except Audis, so I can't take his word because I have not read anything like that?
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Old Sep 26, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I think that just backs up the fact that the hp rating on this car was lowballed from the factory. Hard to believe a simple ECU upgrade would garnish a 75+ hp bump.
Not really. Remember the ECU controls boost.
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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I always said the new tt BMWs were going to be awesome cars. I'm hoping my brother gets one for his 16th b-day next year so I can mod it for him, Lol.

And I wouldnt be suprised if the new M3 does a 0-60 in 4 flat if the 335 does it in 4.8. Of course, BMW will probably give it a 4.4 so it doesnt make the M5 look bad but it could hit 4 flat. With ECU, intake, an exhaust the new M3 will be a very hard car to beat (unless you throw on a giant turbo to the 335, then that will be the car to get)
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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saw a white one on the road the other day. definitely a nice looking car in person except the tail light design being too soft.
me too..

but it was a 328... woman driver...
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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$48000 335i BMW pretty loaded ON ebay for $43K

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-3...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old Sep 27, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ItalianStallion
I always said the new tt BMWs were going to be awesome cars. I'm hoping my brother gets one for his 16th b-day next year so I can mod it for him, Lol.

And I wouldnt be suprised if the new M3 does a 0-60 in 4 flat if the 335 does it in 4.8. Of course, BMW will probably give it a 4.4 so it doesnt make the M5 look bad but it could hit 4 flat. With ECU, intake, an exhaust the new M3 will be a very hard car to beat (unless you throw on a giant turbo to the 335, then that will be the car to get)
The current E46 M3 was a few tenths of a second quicker than the recently replaced M5 so I wouldn't be surprised if a 4 second M3 hits the streets. I just hope they make it aggressive looking as the current. Love those flared out fenders and the view of the wide rear
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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Guys, you need to see this. They milked out 70whp on 91 octane gas with just an ECU tune.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Kev04C320
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...53&postcount=1

Guys, you need to see this. They milked out 70whp on 91 octane gas with just an ECU tune.
Thats unfair.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Thats unfair.
No, that's badass.
I cannot wait for the W204 C350, or even the next IS350.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kev04C320
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Guys, you need to see this. They milked out 70whp on 91 octane gas with just an ECU tune.
Damn... so is he saying that w/ only some ECU tuning, this car could be made as fast or faster than a stock C55? I haven't dyno'd my car... but would guess that C55 only put about 300-310whp. If true, then got to be careful when meeting 335. Scary $h!t for a car starts at $38-40K.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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HP isn't the only thing that determines a win or loss.
You might have him in the twi... yeah, you lost..
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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OK OK... I should've said it more clearly.

Straight line... similar weight, similar curve bands (both hp & tq). Cars w/ higher tq & hp numbers will likely win, IMO, given similarly skilled driver.

W/ 340/340 on 335 vs. 300/310 on C55, I'm guessing 335 is at least as fast as C55. Once again, it's all on paper.... need to see repeated drag results.

I don't consider twisties.... even a stock civic w/ pro driver may beat me on C55. This means, driver's skill plays a lot bigger role in twisties that apple-to-apple engine power comparison becomes less possible.
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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The new 335i is amazing, especially with a chip. I can't wait a few more years down the line until the 63AMG engines come full force with turbos (or so I've heard).
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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The new 335i is amazing, especially with a chip. I can't wait a few more years down the line until the 63AMG engines come full force with turbos (or so I've heard).
Turbo- Super- charged engines are always a breeze to pump up IF (and that's a big if) there is a dedicated tuner base willing to hack the computers to make it work. There will always be more tuners working on BMWs and Audis because the likely customer base (youthful cranks with money) will be larger. Lots of tuners and lots of buyers means cheap upgrades. You can buy 60HP for $400 with an Audi S4, and to match that in a Benz C32 you need to spend 10X that amount.

Of course, in both cases, there's the hidden cost of forfeiting warranty coverage for drivetrain failures, unless the tuner provides a warranty.
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Turbo- Super- charged engines are always a breeze to pump up IF (and that's a big if) there is a dedicated tuner base willing to hack the computers to make it work. There will always be more tuners working on BMWs and Audis because the likely customer base (youthful cranks with money) will be larger. Lots of tuners and lots of buyers means cheap upgrades. You can buy 60HP for $400 with an Audi S4, and to match that in a Benz C32 you need to spend 10X that amount.

Of course, in both cases, there's the hidden cost of forfeiting warranty coverage for drivetrain failures, unless the tuner provides a warranty.
Wait for Dinan and you ge the best of both worlds
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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HP isn't the only thing that determines a win or loss.
You might have him in the twi... yeah, you lost..
Made me fall out of my chair ricky lmao
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Thats unfair.
How so? Coz your car has no supercharger?

Go find Kleemann or Renntech
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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Wait for Dinan and you ge the best of both worlds

Dinan for some reason seems to be lagging with software. They still to not have anything for the valvetronic motors...Evotech have got 20+hp from the NA 325i motor!

http://www.dynocomp.com/bmw.php?view=bmw
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Thats unfair.
sweet!! that's turbo cars for ya...very tuner friendly.
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