Its been a long time- Got my C55 yee ha
12-07-2006, 07:16 PM
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Its been a long time- Got my C55 yee ha
Hi to the MBworld gang. I left the MB circle a few years ago and went to an M# for a few years. Happy to report that I just picked up a new C55 (White/Black) prior to Thanksgiving and I still have a grin. Love this car and the V8 is perfect.
One question for the suspension experts. Understeer is a bit more than I expeceted.
I was looking into the front and rear track and noticed the front is wider by 29mm.
Could I reduce the understeer if I got the front and rear track a bit closer to each other?
I've been playing with air pressures and that helps, but its still there.
I am also considering going with 235/18s in front and 265/18s in back (more for the traction and looks then the latter, but **** the wheel wells need to get filled up and I cant deal with a slammed car as a daily driver.
OK , great to be back and if you have any suggestions on the understeer I'm all ears.
One question for the suspension experts. Understeer is a bit more than I expeceted.
I was looking into the front and rear track and noticed the front is wider by 29mm.
Could I reduce the understeer if I got the front and rear track a bit closer to each other?
I've been playing with air pressures and that helps, but its still there.
I am also considering going with 235/18s in front and 265/18s in back (more for the traction and looks then the latter, but **** the wheel wells need to get filled up and I cant deal with a slammed car as a daily driver.
OK , great to be back and if you have any suggestions on the understeer I'm all ears.
12-07-2006, 08:27 PM
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Hi to the MBworld gang. I left the MB circle a few years ago and went to an M# for a few years. Happy to report that I just picked up a new C55 (White/Black) prior to Thanksgiving and I still have a grin. Love this car and the V8 is perfect.
One question for the suspension experts. Understeer is a bit more than I expeceted.
I was looking into the front and rear track and noticed the front is wider by 29mm.
Could I reduce the understeer if I got the front and rear track a bit closer to each other?
I've been playing with air pressures and that helps, but its still there.
I am also considering going with 235/18s in front and 265/18s in back (more for the traction and looks then the latter, but **** the wheel wells need to get filled up and I cant deal with a slammed car as a daily driver.
OK , great to be back and if you have any suggestions on the understeer I'm all ears.
One question for the suspension experts. Understeer is a bit more than I expeceted.
I was looking into the front and rear track and noticed the front is wider by 29mm.
Could I reduce the understeer if I got the front and rear track a bit closer to each other?
I've been playing with air pressures and that helps, but its still there.
I am also considering going with 235/18s in front and 265/18s in back (more for the traction and looks then the latter, but **** the wheel wells need to get filled up and I cant deal with a slammed car as a daily driver.
OK , great to be back and if you have any suggestions on the understeer I'm all ears.
IF you owned a non amg w203, I would suggest you to go amg sways. but you already have a AMG (BTW! welcome back to mbworld!)
TRY looking into aftermarket sways like h&r eibach, etc, and maybe lowering your car can help.
12-07-2006, 09:44 PM
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yea lol I went from 50/50 to what seems like 70/30. I do know that the perfromance increase is well worth the understeer. This car could be soooo much more of a monster in the twisties if, well you know. Maybe I lower it a tad, but sway bars might be the 1st place I start. Tjanks for the reply, its good to be back.
12-07-2006, 10:48 PM
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Congrats to your new ride. Late is better than never.
Trust me, don't fckit up with any aftermarkets mods until you have got to know the car's full potential better. I would just play with tire pressures and do nothing for this moment.
A Stock C55 is a jewel from the AMG engineers on its own kind.
Trust me, don't fckit up with any aftermarkets mods until you have got to know the car's full potential better. I would just play with tire pressures and do nothing for this moment.
A Stock C55 is a jewel from the AMG engineers on its own kind.
12-08-2006, 08:55 AM
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yea lol I went from 50/50 to what seems like 70/30. I do know that the perfromance increase is well worth the understeer. This car could be soooo much more of a monster in the twisties if, well you know. Maybe I lower it a tad, but sway bars might be the 1st place I start. Tjanks for the reply, its good to be back.
what m did you have
the e36 m3 or the old m coupe??
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yea lol I went from 50/50 to what seems like 70/30. I do know that the perfromance increase is well worth the understeer. This car could be soooo much more of a monster in the twisties if, well you know. Maybe I lower it a tad, but sway bars might be the 1st place I start. Tjanks for the reply, its good to be back.
Nobody's found the cure. You can go with bigger rubber (but if you make the rears bigger, you'll just re-create the problem). I have 245s all around. You can try a bigger rear stab bar, but it appears that there is nothing big enough to correct it. Odd because I've owned Audis that had much worse weight distribution, yet less understeer. It's probably the front suspension geometry, and there's no cheap fix.
12-08-2006, 02:30 PM
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Nobody's found the cure. You can go with bigger rubber (but if you make the rears bigger, you'll just re-create the problem). I have 245s all around. You can try a bigger rear stab bar, but it appears that there is nothing big enough to correct it. Odd because I've owned Audis that had much worse weight distribution, yet less understeer. It's probably the front suspension geometry, and there's no cheap fix.
The other answer on why I left the M3 camp and did not go back was simply, 'been there done that' and frankly theres nothing else in my book that compares to these (m3,s4,c55) vehicles. The E55 is tooo big for my taste and I'd wreck it trying to make it do what the S4, M3 and C5 can all do. With the latter screaming like a school girl...which come hell or high water I will resolve to some degree.
12-08-2006, 02:45 PM
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Ok dirty little secret, I've had 2 M3's and just dumped an 04 S4. So you are right on and I KNOW exactly what your saying on the awd audi observation.
The other answer on why I left the M3 camp and did not go back was simply, 'been there done that' and frankly theres nothing else in my book that compares to these (m3,s4,c55) vehicles. The E55 is tooo big for my taste and I'd wreck it trying to make it do what the S4, M3 and C5 can all do. With the latter screaming like a school girl...which come hell or high water I will resolve to some degree.
The other answer on why I left the M3 camp and did not go back was simply, 'been there done that' and frankly theres nothing else in my book that compares to these (m3,s4,c55) vehicles. The E55 is tooo big for my taste and I'd wreck it trying to make it do what the S4, M3 and C5 can all do. With the latter screaming like a school girl...which come hell or high water I will resolve to some degree.
Start with the tires. I switched from staggered to non-staggered and understeer was definitely reduced. (I'm basing this on actual track experience.)
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MERCGUY - Welcome back! Post pics of your new acquisition
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What you say MAY be true when you compare the E55/E63 to a standard C-class/3 series/A4. But it is highly unlikely that the E63 will handle better than a M3/C55/S4/RS4 on a track.
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Agreed. I passed on an e55 and went c55 because of the poor air bag handling and the ability to "tune" the c55 suspension to make it even better. Yes you can get the lowering module for the E.... but I cannot comment on how much better the handling is or worse from it.
