Help about new headlights from Ebay
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Help about new headlights from Ebay
Hello,
i have a C32 AMG, i would like to change my headlights, with beautiful
smooth headlights like i can see on Ebay :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-05...QQcmdZViewItem
They look more smooth and transparent than my factory headlight,
the problem is that i got factory xenon hid system... and most of headlight on ebay are not compatible...
Do you know a webstore or a ebay ref where i can by headlight that would fit on my C32 ?
Thanks
See you
Toto
i have a C32 AMG, i would like to change my headlights, with beautiful
smooth headlights like i can see on Ebay :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-05...QQcmdZViewItem
They look more smooth and transparent than my factory headlight,
the problem is that i got factory xenon hid system... and most of headlight on ebay are not compatible...
Do you know a webstore or a ebay ref where i can by headlight that would fit on my C32 ?
Thanks
See you
Toto
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2004 E55
I have the same issue. I bought some projector headlights on ebay a few days ago. My car has factory HID's like yours and they are not suppose to fit in the lights I bought. The aftermarket lights you are looking at take H7's, I believe. I am going to atempt to install my HID's into them, it may take a little custom work (AKA glueing and or dremeling). I will probabaly take some pics of the install and all. BTW, some members just by aftermarket HID's and install them instead.
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Hello,
so the solutions are :
- DIY on Ebay headlights to make them fit with factory hid xenon
- replace my factory hid system by a hid system with headlights on ebay.
- change the bulbs, but i don't really understood.
Thanks
so the solutions are :
- DIY on Ebay headlights to make them fit with factory hid xenon
- replace my factory hid system by a hid system with headlights on ebay.
- change the bulbs, but i don't really understood.
Thanks
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if your OEM HID is the fluted lens design, then you have D2R bulbs...not compat
with the above linked system. but you are more than 1/2 way there. pull the
Depo halogen projector and measure the mounting posts, as well as the halogen
projector. compare with existing HID projectors already in existance. chances
are that you will be able to fit one into the Depo....so you're performing a swap-
out.
You'll now have a projector based HID and will purchase new D2S bulbs...and
can continue to use your existing OEM Hella ballasts.
depending on projector design, I am guessing $200/pair, pls $100 pair D2S bulbs,
and $325 for the Depo headlight assembly. fitting the HID projector may require
a little fabrication work but hard to tell w/o my examining the parts. I did the
E55 bixenon into the Depo and the mod was with Dremel and locking washers.
Took a day or two....tops.
with the above linked system. but you are more than 1/2 way there. pull the
Depo halogen projector and measure the mounting posts, as well as the halogen
projector. compare with existing HID projectors already in existance. chances
are that you will be able to fit one into the Depo....so you're performing a swap-
out.
You'll now have a projector based HID and will purchase new D2S bulbs...and
can continue to use your existing OEM Hella ballasts.
depending on projector design, I am guessing $200/pair, pls $100 pair D2S bulbs,
and $325 for the Depo headlight assembly. fitting the HID projector may require
a little fabrication work but hard to tell w/o my examining the parts. I did the
E55 bixenon into the Depo and the mod was with Dremel and locking washers.
Took a day or two....tops.
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Thanks Raymond
After searching on the net, i found some kind of h7 to d2s/d2r converter adapter, so i wondering if d2r to h7 converter exist? would be the cheapest solution?
And another solutions :
Buy this HID h7 KIT to replace my factory HID :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=190065097251
and buy clear lens headlight and h7 xenon bulbs.
approx 600$ for this work
is this a good solution?
Thanks
After searching on the net, i found some kind of h7 to d2s/d2r converter adapter, so i wondering if d2r to h7 converter exist? would be the cheapest solution?
And another solutions :
Buy this HID h7 KIT to replace my factory HID :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=190065097251
and buy clear lens headlight and h7 xenon bulbs.
approx 600$ for this work
is this a good solution?
Thanks
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if you convert to H7, you'd easily lose 1/2 of your current HID light output....
perhaps even 2/3....just to get the clear, updated look. would you be willing
to sacrifice that?
on the other hand, you're proposing going with the H7 clear lens, but then
dropping in an H7 rebased HID kit. the problem I have (many do not...or
don't care) is that the lens is designed for use with a halogen bulb which has
a specific focal point. the HID bulb has different physical spec and design and
requires a different projector lens in order for the useable lighting to be optimal.
PMing you with more info....
perhaps even 2/3....just to get the clear, updated look. would you be willing
to sacrifice that?
on the other hand, you're proposing going with the H7 clear lens, but then
dropping in an H7 rebased HID kit. the problem I have (many do not...or
don't care) is that the lens is designed for use with a halogen bulb which has
a specific focal point. the HID bulb has different physical spec and design and
requires a different projector lens in order for the useable lighting to be optimal.
PMing you with more info....
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if you convert to H7, you'd easily lose 1/2 of your current HID light output....
perhaps even 2/3....just to get the clear, updated look. would you be willing
to sacrifice that?
on the other hand, you're proposing going with the H7 clear lens, but then
dropping in an H7 rebased HID kit. the problem I have (many do not...or
don't care) is that the lens is designed for use with a halogen bulb which has
a specific focal point. the HID bulb has different physical spec and design and
requires a different projector lens in order for the useable lighting to be optimal.
PMing you with more info....
perhaps even 2/3....just to get the clear, updated look. would you be willing
to sacrifice that?
on the other hand, you're proposing going with the H7 clear lens, but then
dropping in an H7 rebased HID kit. the problem I have (many do not...or
don't care) is that the lens is designed for use with a halogen bulb which has
a specific focal point. the HID bulb has different physical spec and design and
requires a different projector lens in order for the useable lighting to be optimal.
PMing you with more info....
I have a real hard time believing that one would lose 1/2 to 2/3 of their light out put from converting from projector to a H7 setup. If the efficiency of H7's was so terrible one would think all cars over $15K would have the projector set up. Please let me know what info you have to back this up. Other members of this forum have used these headlights in conjunction with a aftermarket HID kit and claim a good beam pattern and very good light performance.
The headlights I recently purchased on ebay are these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...7834988&rd=1,1 . They claim that they are projector headlights. I am not sure if this is just a marketing scheme or not. The projector style fixture looks the same as the projectors my S4 had.
Thanks for the input.
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one of his options was to convert from HID to H7. typically, HID in autos produces
2800-3200 lumens, depending on specific bulb/design. contrast this with
halogen bulb's 800-1000 lumens. that's a clear 3-4x imrovement...an easily
Google-able fact. this has less to do with projector design than bulb design
and lighting technology.
MB's OEM of that vintage uses D2R bulbs. OEM issued bulbs are in the 2800
lumens ballpark. simple math. D2R's 2800 v H7's 1000.
2800-3200 lumens, depending on specific bulb/design. contrast this with
halogen bulb's 800-1000 lumens. that's a clear 3-4x imrovement...an easily
Google-able fact. this has less to do with projector design than bulb design
and lighting technology.
MB's OEM of that vintage uses D2R bulbs. OEM issued bulbs are in the 2800
lumens ballpark. simple math. D2R's 2800 v H7's 1000.
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From: Rhode Island
2004 E55
one of his options was to convert from HID to H7. typically, HID in autos produces
2800-3200 lumens, depending on specific bulb/design. contrast this with
halogen bulb's 800-1000 lumens. that's a clear 3-4x imrovement...an easily
Google-able fact. this has less to do with projector design than bulb design
and lighting technology.
MB's OEM of that vintage uses D2R bulbs. OEM issued bulbs are in the 2800
lumens ballpark. simple math. D2R's 2800 v H7's 1000.
2800-3200 lumens, depending on specific bulb/design. contrast this with
halogen bulb's 800-1000 lumens. that's a clear 3-4x imrovement...an easily
Google-able fact. this has less to do with projector design than bulb design
and lighting technology.
MB's OEM of that vintage uses D2R bulbs. OEM issued bulbs are in the 2800
lumens ballpark. simple math. D2R's 2800 v H7's 1000.
However, after you explained your math their is a major flaw in it. The heat range (or temperature) rating of a bulb does not signify the % of light out put it generates. It only signifies the intensity of the light, or temperature of the light.
For example a HID bulb with a heat rating of 8000 does not have a out put 8X greater then a H7 halogen bulb rated at 1000. It is operating at a temperature of 8X's that, yes, but the output of the light is by no means 8X greater. A better example of this is a black light, it runs at a temp rated at 12000 but has a very low light out put. According to your math a black light is producing a light out put that is 12X's greater then a bulb rated at 1000.
I went ahead and used your suggestion and did a google search, I found your "simple math" is a bit different then you may have thought. I quote:
"Color Temperature is a measurement in Degrees Kelvin that indicates the hue of a specific type of light source. Many people believe the misconception that color temperature is a rating of the brightness of the bulb or HID kit. This belief is completely false. "
I respectfully ask again, what info do you have to back your claim up?
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I'm telling you..., take your damn hands off of her 
I just saw the movie on Bravo, great movie.
My whole argumenmt seems to be based on confusion. In the begining I thought we where comparing HID's to HID's, then I thought you where talking about the heat ranges. So in the end, HID's do produce a lot more light which you said, one would be very foolish to switch from HID's to halogens. Have a nice Christmas, I am done being confused and ranting on
I just saw the movie on Bravo, great movie.My whole argumenmt seems to be based on confusion. In the begining I thought we where comparing HID's to HID's, then I thought you where talking about the heat ranges. So in the end, HID's do produce a lot more light which you said, one would be very foolish to switch from HID's to halogens. Have a nice Christmas, I am done being confused and ranting on
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C230 W204 with C63 Kit Package
Doc: "It says made in Japan..."
Marty: "C'mon Doc what are you talking about, all the best stuff is made in Japan."
Good to know we are having passions for same car and also same movie. The first one is the best!
Here's mine with headlights and ring from eBay. Be prepared to lose the control tilting the headlights. Now I am thinking to swap it with Depo's black headlights, seeing them around in eBay...
Marty: "C'mon Doc what are you talking about, all the best stuff is made in Japan."
Good to know we are having passions for same car and also same movie. The first one is the best!
Here's mine with headlights and ring from eBay. Be prepared to lose the control tilting the headlights. Now I am thinking to swap it with Depo's black headlights, seeing them around in eBay...
