FINALLY 02 c32 stock VS 07 335 stock
#27
MBWorld Fanatic!
I think the new 3 series look better than any BMW to date I can't wait to see what the next M will look like.
Its all are opinions but when I saw the new 3 in person it really looked better and grows on me the more I see them out there.
heres a few pics a a bone stock 335 vs an modded m3 with blacked out grile,lips,lowered and wheels.
look how out dated it looks
and thats a regular 3 series just wait till the next M hits the streets...hopfully it will look like this
Its all are opinions but when I saw the new 3 in person it really looked better and grows on me the more I see them out there.
heres a few pics a a bone stock 335 vs an modded m3 with blacked out grile,lips,lowered and wheels.
look how out dated it looks
and thats a regular 3 series just wait till the next M hits the streets...hopfully it will look like this
#29
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Fort Lee, NJ and SoCal (Rancho C)
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Audi S4 Avant and BMW X5 4.4
I think the new 3 series look better than any BMW to date I can't wait to see what the next M will look like.
Its all are opinions but when I saw the new 3 in person it really looked better and grows on me the more I see them out there.
heres a few pics a a bone stock 335 vs an modded m3 with blacked out grile,lips,lowered and wheels.
look how out dated it looks
the E90
and thats a regular 3 series just wait till the next M hits the streets...hopfully it will look like this
Its all are opinions but when I saw the new 3 in person it really looked better and grows on me the more I see them out there.
heres a few pics a a bone stock 335 vs an modded m3 with blacked out grile,lips,lowered and wheels.
look how out dated it looks
the E90
and thats a regular 3 series just wait till the next M hits the streets...hopfully it will look like this
E46 M3 still looks better
#30
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Fort Lee, NJ and SoCal (Rancho C)
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Audi S4 Avant and BMW X5 4.4
i think the 335 is a great package, especially for its $40kish pricetag. Sure the interior could be better, but I don't think its "over rated". The hype and exitement over the 335 has obviously been its powerplant, and the possiblity of tuning since it is a FI Tubocharged application. With just software/chip....I am sure the 335 is toe to toe, if not pulling on stock C32's and perhaps C55's. But the reliability factor will be the main sticking point....we shall see about the possible overheating issues in 335's. Also.....how well the Alum block will handle the extra boost from tuning. Some believe 400 HP may be the max reliable # from 335's. Either way...they are nice cars with exciting Turbocharged powerplant, which is what is making the carfans and enthusiasts excited about.
#33
#34
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: May 2006
Location: So.Ca.
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
E55
I test drove the 335i and it has some grunt too it. I havent driven a c32yet,but Im looking for a good CPOed car at the dealer too test.
#35
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: asdfasdf
Posts: 2,158
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
One with 4 wheels
Man, come on....an AMG vs. stock 3-er? It's a no brainer.
What I want to see is, stock for stock, the future C63 and new M3 go at it head to head. That should be a better comparison.
What I want to see is, stock for stock, the future C63 and new M3 go at it head to head. That should be a better comparison.
#36
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: May 2006
Location: So.Ca.
Posts: 3,042
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
E55
So how fast is a stock C32 in the 1/4 then? Seems the 335i's are real close from what Im reading,if not the exact same.
#37
Motorart V 6
Hubraum 3199 ccm
Aufladung Kompressor
PS - UMin 354 PS - 6100/Min
Nm - UMin 450 Nm - 4400/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 5/Automatik
Supertest in sport auto 9/2001
Gewicht 1648 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,1 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,5 s
0 - 120 km/h 7,6 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 9,9 s
0 - 160 km/h 12,5 s
0 - 180 km/h 15,6 s
0 - 200 km/h 19,8 s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 39,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 39,0 m
Nordschleife 8.37 min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.20,6 min
Querbeschleunigung 1,00 g
Slalom 18 m - km/h
Slalom 36 m 118 km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 132 km/h
Testverbrauch 15,4 L/SP
BMW 335i Coupé E92 - Supertest 2006 (Serie)
Motorart R 6 Benziner
Hubraum 2979 ccm
Aufladung BiTurbo 0,6 bar/Euro 4
PS - UMin 306 PS (225 kW) - 5800/Min
Nm - UMin 400 Nm - 1300/Min
Motorlage/Antrieb Frontmotor/Heck
Gänge/Schaltung 6/manuell
Supertest in sport auto 10/2006
Gewicht 1610 kg
0 - 80 km/h 4,2 s
0 - 100 km/h 5,6 s
0 - 120 km/h 8,0 s
0 - 130 km/h - s
0 - 140 km/h 10,2 s
0 - 160 km/h 13,0 s
0 - 180 km/h 16,9 s
0 - 200 km/h 20,7 s
0 - 250 km/h - s
400 m, stehender Start - s
1 km, stehender Start - s
Vmax 250 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 37,0 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 37,2 m
Nordschleife 8.26 min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.17,8 min
Motopark Oschersleben - min
max. Querbeschleunigung 1,15 g
Slalom 18 m 67,6 km/h
Slalom 36 m 130 km/h
ISO Ausweichtest 110 m 136 km/h
Testverbrauch min/max/ges 9,9/14,6/11,8 L/SP
#38
I test drove a 335 sedan yesterday, just for the hell of it. It was definitely impressive. I ran it up to about 90. Wasn't as quick as the c55 but I love the manual tranny. Handling was good but the brakes were really touchy. I'm sure I could get used to them. IMO, the coupe is much nicer than the sedan, but I like the c55 better regardless, especially with a price tag of about 50k for the 335.
Last edited by glomar83; 01-08-2007 at 02:25 PM.
#39
MBWorld Fanatic!
$50K?? What options are you selecting?
Anyway, I think the handling and braking are BMW standard, which are the best for all manufactures in my opinion (except the Porsche's, Ferrari's & Co.). The 335i is pretty impressive - it hugs the corners quite well, well, put it this way: it's an improvement from the 330, which says a lot; I mean the 330 was certainly the best small 4-door sedan (performance wise) for year and years so expect better (disregarding S-Audi and AMG-Benz).
If you're coming from an AMG - or even an M BMW, you may not be so impressed, but you'll note that it's not exactly slow. Coming from an C320/C350 or the Audi counterparts and you'll realize this car is extraordinary! It just proves that giving the 335 300HP, 300LB/Torque, proves the M3 will be quite deadly; let's see if it can give the RS4 a run... which currently stands in the lead.
Tee_Tz.
Anyway, I think the handling and braking are BMW standard, which are the best for all manufactures in my opinion (except the Porsche's, Ferrari's & Co.). The 335i is pretty impressive - it hugs the corners quite well, well, put it this way: it's an improvement from the 330, which says a lot; I mean the 330 was certainly the best small 4-door sedan (performance wise) for year and years so expect better (disregarding S-Audi and AMG-Benz).
If you're coming from an AMG - or even an M BMW, you may not be so impressed, but you'll note that it's not exactly slow. Coming from an C320/C350 or the Audi counterparts and you'll realize this car is extraordinary! It just proves that giving the 335 300HP, 300LB/Torque, proves the M3 will be quite deadly; let's see if it can give the RS4 a run... which currently stands in the lead.
Tee_Tz.
#40
$50K?? What options are you selecting?
Anyway, I think the handling and braking are BMW standard, which are the best for all manufactures in my opinion (except the Porsche's, Ferrari's & Co.). The 335i is pretty impressive - it hugs the corners quite well, well, put it this way: it's an improvement from the 330, which says a lot; I mean the 330 was certainly the best small 4-door sedan (performance wise) for year and years so expect better (disregarding S-Audi and AMG-Benz).
If you're coming from an AMG - or even an M BMW, you may not be so impressed, but you'll note that it's not exactly slow. Coming from an C320/C350 or the Audi counterparts and you'll realize this car is extraordinary! It just proves that giving the 335 300HP, 300LB/Torque, proves the M3 will be quite deadly; let's see if it can give the RS4 a run... which currently stands in the lead.
Tee_Tz.
Anyway, I think the handling and braking are BMW standard, which are the best for all manufactures in my opinion (except the Porsche's, Ferrari's & Co.). The 335i is pretty impressive - it hugs the corners quite well, well, put it this way: it's an improvement from the 330, which says a lot; I mean the 330 was certainly the best small 4-door sedan (performance wise) for year and years so expect better (disregarding S-Audi and AMG-Benz).
If you're coming from an AMG - or even an M BMW, you may not be so impressed, but you'll note that it's not exactly slow. Coming from an C320/C350 or the Audi counterparts and you'll realize this car is extraordinary! It just proves that giving the 335 300HP, 300LB/Torque, proves the M3 will be quite deadly; let's see if it can give the RS4 a run... which currently stands in the lead.
Tee_Tz.
Last edited by glomar83; 01-09-2007 at 03:52 PM.
#43
MBWorld Fanatic!
car keeps getting faster and faster...Its up to 405 ft lbs and 355 whp with a tune and exh and 93 oct The next M3 will barely break 300 CRANK torque lol
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43252
with some race gas and bigger down pipes It should come real close 400whp and 450 plus ft lbs in the mid range
I feel bad for the owners of the next M3 when they get walked hard by a car that cost 20k less lol
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43252
with some race gas and bigger down pipes It should come real close 400whp and 450 plus ft lbs in the mid range
I feel bad for the owners of the next M3 when they get walked hard by a car that cost 20k less lol
#44
car keeps getting faster and faster...Its up to 405 ft lbs and 355 whp with a tune and exh and 93 oct The next M3 will barely break 300 CRANK torque lol
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43252
with some race gas and bigger down pipes It should come real close 400whp and 450 plus ft lbs in the mid range
I feel bad for the owners of the next M3 when they get walked hard by a car that cost 20k less lol
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43252
with some race gas and bigger down pipes It should come real close 400whp and 450 plus ft lbs in the mid range
I feel bad for the owners of the next M3 when they get walked hard by a car that cost 20k less lol
#45
Super Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 543
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
02ml500sport/maxima06-6speed
wow 335s are that fast ????? i always wanted to run it on my maxima , every1 is saying that my car is factory freak , i have a 6 speed , 06 maxima with injen CAI its very fast , i eat is350's acura tl's and g35's all day long , but i guess i dont have a chance with the 335
#46
MBworld Guru
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Diamond Bar, CA
Posts: 22,007
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes
on
6 Posts
white and whiter
if it is infact correct the 535i when it becomes available may be my choice of new car. lol
Last edited by FrankW; 01-22-2007 at 03:47 AM.
#47
MBWorld Fanatic!
The block isnt the problem,its the stock turbos....There pretty much maxed out right now and the most some one will get is prolly just under 400whp.
I have no problems with the block.The e36 M3 that has an aluminum block and was made to be NA can make 700whp with just a head gasket.
The e46 M3 that everyone said was a high strung engine is now making over 600 whp without even opening up the block.
there are plenty of stock dynos of the 335's they make 280-290 ftlb and 260-270 whp in stock form
the s4 has nothing to do with a inline 6.The tuners on the s4 more than doubled the boost to make there gains and used the stock ecu.
the 335 is only getting 3.5 psi more than stock with a piggy back(way more flexibility than the stock ecu) and is tappering boost up top to keep them from blowing up like the s4s did.From 5k-7k the 335 drops boost down to 9 and then to 7 by redline.IM sure some kids will run them 14-15 psi all the way to redline but will greatly decrease the life of the turbos.
I have no problems with the block.The e36 M3 that has an aluminum block and was made to be NA can make 700whp with just a head gasket.
The e46 M3 that everyone said was a high strung engine is now making over 600 whp without even opening up the block.
there are plenty of stock dynos of the 335's they make 280-290 ftlb and 260-270 whp in stock form
the s4 has nothing to do with a inline 6.The tuners on the s4 more than doubled the boost to make there gains and used the stock ecu.
the 335 is only getting 3.5 psi more than stock with a piggy back(way more flexibility than the stock ecu) and is tappering boost up top to keep them from blowing up like the s4s did.From 5k-7k the 335 drops boost down to 9 and then to 7 by redline.IM sure some kids will run them 14-15 psi all the way to redline but will greatly decrease the life of the turbos.
#48
MBWorld Fanatic!
wow 335s are that fast ????? i always wanted to run it on my maxima , every1 is saying that my car is factory freak , i have a 6 speed , 06 maxima with injen CAI its very fast , i eat is350's acura tl's and g35's all day long , but i guess i dont have a chance with the 335
they trap 104-105 in the 1/4 mile and M3s trap 105-107
but once you chip the car forget it lol.
#49
MBWorld Fanatic!
The high power M3s out do not have the reliablity of a stock vehicle. I know that isn't an issue for some people, and it didn't used to be an issue with me on previous vehicles, but I want my german daily driver to run perfectly. I've seen a few modified M3s around Chicago on the shoulder with the hoods up and the guy working on the car. I don't want to deal with that. I'd only modify a car to the point where it still retains its stock reliability. If I wanted to go ***** out, I'd work on an EVO.
#50
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: D.C. METRO AREA
Posts: 1,070
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Nissan GT-R cobb/midpipe/ic piping/wastegate actuators/tials
i love the m3's, but i doubt that the new m3 will have a chance in hell if the c63 comes out with the specs we think it will have.