Should I do it? C32 > C55
Having said that...
If you're not happy w/ your car as is, then either fix it or sell it... If you know evosport could fix it plus add stage 1 (which would make more less on par w/ stock C55) for $3K and this would make you happy again w/ the car, then do it. Otherwise, I'd rather spend $10K.
The bottom line, just measure the cost vs. your feeling.... pick the one that you like.
BTW, if you ever consider purchasing a C55, PM me... I have one that I'm thinking of selling.... CA car (NorCal), black/black, loaded, mint condition, <20K miles (still under warranty). And as Ling said.... C55 never gives any problems
Last edited by jgsx; Mar 16, 2007 at 12:28 PM.
The issue with the car is unusual. At highway speeds, the car will slightly and briefly seem to "lurch" forward. Then, it will have absolutley NO power. You can stand on the pedal and it will not gain speed or shift down. Really seems to bog down. This also happens when rolling to a red light then stepping on the gas if the light changes before a stop.
The MB dealers claimed no problem found or could not duplicate. The local shop claimed the air temp sensor was bad. Replaced at $106 with no effect on the problem. They originally said the Air MASS Sensor was bad but then said the car dos not have one(?).
MB in Escondito also said the car does not have a AMS. MB in Lauguna Nigal says it does.
This is the motivation for changing out the car. The C63 would be great but not reachable with other obligations. The C55 would be about a $10K additional cost. Modding the C32 would be $3K at EvoSport including diagnostic on the issue above (stage 1). My concern there would be does the extra stress put on the engine equal more problems?
Any additional thoughts appreciated.
Ralf
Hey, it's great to get new stuff. Nothing wrong with that!
The issue with the car is unusual. At highway speeds, the car will slightly and briefly seem to "lurch" forward. Then, it will have absolutley NO power. You can stand on the pedal and it will not gain speed or shift down. Really seems to bog down. This also happens when rolling to a red light then stepping on the gas if the light changes before a stop.
The MB dealers claimed no problem found or could not duplicate. The local shop claimed the air temp sensor was bad. Replaced at $106 with no effect on the problem. They originally said the Air MASS Sensor was bad but then said the car dos not have one(?).
MB in Escondito also said the car does not have a AMS. MB in Lauguna Nigal says it does.
This is the motivation for changing out the car. The C63 would be great but not reachable with other obligations. The C55 would be about a $10K additional cost. Modding the C32 would be $3K at EvoSport including diagnostic on the issue above (stage 1). My concern there would be does the extra stress put on the engine equal more problems?
Any additional thoughts appreciated.
Ralf
The issue with the car is unusual. At highway speeds, the car will slightly and briefly seem to "lurch" forward. Then, it will have absolutley NO power. You can stand on the pedal and it will not gain speed or shift down. Really seems to bog down. This also happens when rolling to a red light then stepping on the gas if the light changes before a stop.
The MB dealers claimed no problem found or could not duplicate. The local shop claimed the air temp sensor was bad. Replaced at $106 with no effect on the problem. They originally said the Air MASS Sensor was bad but then said the car dos not have one(?).
MB in Escondito also said the car does not have a AMS. MB in Lauguna Nigal says it does.
This is the motivation for changing out the car. The C63 would be great but not reachable with other obligations. The C55 would be about a $10K additional cost. Modding the C32 would be $3K at EvoSport including diagnostic on the issue above (stage 1). My concern there would be does the extra stress put on the engine equal more problems?
Any additional thoughts appreciated.
Ralf
Another reason for having sluggish engine response and lack of downshifting is faulty throttle pedal sensor.
Last edited by gkstar; Mar 17, 2007 at 12:06 PM.
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Another reason for having sluggish engine response and lack of downshifting is faulty throttle pedal sensor.
C55 is better: lineal acceleration, handling, fit and finish, front end looks, sound, ride quality, options, interior, and top end acceleration.
C32 is better: sleeper and supercharger grunt....mod'able???
I really have to tell you, I love the C55. It just feels tighter, stronger, faster, smoother, quieter and everything else-er. In fact, I was surprised how much I enjoy driving it more then my C32 (which was a great car!). Now the C55 was/is 3 years newer, so some things just come with a newer car (fit and finish, options, interior).
The real question, do I think the C55 is worth $15k+ more? It depends on your money...if $15k is an issue or causes payments...no; the C32 is great. But, if you can do it cash with no worries...the C55 is, in all aspects a better car. IMO
C32 is better: sleeper and supercharger grunt....mod'able???
I really have to tell you, I love the C55. It just feels tighter, stronger, faster, smoother, quieter and everything else-er. But, if you can do it cash with no worries...the C55 is, in all aspects a better car. IMO
You compared a 3 year old C32 with a lesser options package to a nearly new C55.
PS: C32 = Mod'able.
To tell you the truth, I did not ever think I would be writing this. But if you drive them back to back, at length, not just 5 min off the lot, this is the story. Again IMO
To tell you the truth, I did not ever think I would be writing this. But if you drive them back to back, at length, not just 5 min off the lot, this is the story. Again IMO
With the $15,000 price difference (or actually 1/3 of it) the C32 could be spruced up nicely.
With the $15,000 price difference (or actually 1/3 of it) the C32 could be spruced up nicely.
How modded is "modded"?
The fastest C55 I've seen on here to date is DragonAMG's Kleemann SC'ed running 11.997 at 3k feet elevation. I have yet to see a modded C32 match that.
:http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_1447/article.html
500HP + 490 ft lbs

I read here that the (price) issue with a modded C55 is that it goes in the E55 territory, so many would just jump on an E55 instead.
Last edited by gkstar; Mar 27, 2007 at 05:29 PM.
Here are some points on the two cars:
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- Both C32 and C55 have an average 0-60 time of 5.0 seconds.
- C32 has an average 1/4 mile time of 13.7-13.8 seconds while C55 is 13.8-13.95 seconds.
- For twisties, most track results show C55 about one second faster (although there was a couple of tests where C32 had a slight lead).
- C32 can be modded to 430 hp for about $6,000 dollars (with bolt-on mods) while $6,000 dollars will only get you 390 hp on a C55.
- C55 has a 15% stiffer suspension, so the ride provides less luxury and more performance. Depending on the driver this can be a plus or a minus. Some people prefer the more luxury ride vs the stiffer more aggressive ride and vise versa.
- Both the C32 and C55 offer the SAME options: Navigation, Xenon, heated seats, head-lamp washing system, etc...
To summarize, the two cars (in stock form) perform at the same level, have the same chasis, same shape, same seating space, same safety features, and both cars offer the SAME options. Sure they drive a LITTLE differently, but overall, they are more similar than different. That's how car manufacturers get you, they change minor things here and there to convince you to upgrade...
Now if Mercedes would've made the C55 with 400+ hp (that is 50 horsepower increase over C32) and offered more options, such as, Parktronic, Active/Dynamic/Ventilated Seats, and all the other goodies, then YES I would go for the C55 upgrade. But the two cars are just more similar than different, which doesn't justify the extra 15-20k especially when the new C63 is right around the corner. Now that would really be worth the upgrade...

Please note that I love the C55 and I think it is overall (stock vs stock) the better car, but I just don't think it is different enough to be worth the upgrade. But if you didn't have a C32 and were thinking about owning a C-Class AMG, and want to keep the car stock, then C55 all the way.
Last edited by MB_Forever; Mar 28, 2007 at 09:27 PM.
Anyways, I got the numbers above from edmunds independent testing. Here is the direct quote from the article.
At the track, the C55 turned in slightly slower times than the C32 we tested a couple years ago. The raw numbers came in at 5.6 seconds for the 0-60 dash and 13.95 for the quarter. Still quick, but one would rightfully expect that the V8 would be a few tenths quicker, not slower. As we have stated before, there are many variables that come into play when testing a car for acceleration — the track surface, weather conditions (cool air is better than warm) and driver differences. Putting all that power to the ground is tricky, as it's so easy (with the traction control switched off) to make the rear Pirellis go up in smoke. If we chose to take say, eight runs, we're sure that the times would have come down, but we feel that three runs are easier on the car and better represent "real world" numbers. But let's not split hairs; this is one fast car any way you look at it.
Here is the link to the full article:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=103424
I agree with you about the depreciation rates of brand new Mercedes. But you can use it to your advantage by buying one year or maybe two years used car. Take for example, S65 which costs almost 200k brand new. If you wait a couple of years (15 to 20k miles), you can buy one for 80k...






