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NEW 08' M6 CAB, 06' 997 911 CS CAB, 09' RX350 AWD, 10' E350 4M, 10' Range Rover; FS: 04' C32 AMG= FS
PS2 - have them on my 997 CS cab... best tires as far as performance/grip, etc... but like someone mentioned earlier they do wear very quick and if you are price conscience (i paid about $400 for a single (yes 1) rear 295/30/19 for my porsche) its prob. not the "best" buy.
Goodyear GSD3s - had them on my 19" set for my C32. great all around tires as far as handling/performance/wet etc... but cant comment on wear as i only had them for about 4 months. also theyre pretty heavy. i had 235/35 and 265/30 19's for arguments sake.
Bridgstone - no comment, never had them
Toyo T1R - have them on 18" brabus MB VIs on my C32. love these tires, probably my favorite. for the price considering the performance and wear i think they are a great contestant to the PS2 and GSD3 but cost much less then both (well, at least the PS2s were crazy $$$$) sizes are 225/40 & 255/35 18's.
If you need a simple answer i'd say go for the Goodyear or TOYOs. good luck, either way i think anyone will do, depends where you get them from and what sizes and what ur really looking for. dont forget they ALL have there pros and cons... guess i didnt make it any easier
Goodyear GSD3s - had them on my 19" set for my C32. great all around tires as far as handling/performance/wet etc... but cant comment on wear as i only had them for about 4 months. also theyre pretty heavy. i had 235/35 and 265/30 19's for arguments sake.
Bridgstone - no comment, never had them
Toyo T1R - have them on 18" brabus MB VIs on my C32. love these tires, probably my favorite. for the price considering the performance and wear i think they are a great contestant to the PS2 and GSD3 but cost much less then both (well, at least the PS2s were crazy $$$$) sizes are 225/40 & 255/35 18's.
If you need a simple answer i'd say go for the Goodyear or TOYOs. good luck, either way i think anyone will do, depends where you get them from and what sizes and what ur really looking for. dont forget they ALL have there pros and cons... guess i didnt make it any easier
Last edited by AdaMBombC32G; Mar 27, 2007 at 03:17 PM.
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2005 Renntech C class
PS2 - have them on my 997 CS cab... best tires as far as performance/grip, etc... but like someone mentioned earlier they do wear very quick and if you are price conscience (i paid about $400 for a single (yes 1) rear 295/30/19 for my porsche) its prob. not the "best" buy.
Goodyear GSD3s - had them on my 19" set for my C32. great all around tires as far as handling/performance/wet etc... but cant comment on wear as i only had them for about 4 months. also theyre pretty heavy. i had 235/35 and 265/30 19's for arguments sake.
Bridgstone - no comment, never had them
Toyo T1R - have them on 18" brabus MB VIs on my C32. love these tires, probably my favorite. for the price considering the performance and wear i think they are a great contestant to the PS2 and GSD3 but cost much less then both (well, at least the PS2s were crazy $$$$) sizes are 225/40 & 255/35 18's.
If you need a simple answer i'd say go for the Goodyear or TOYOs. good luck, either way i think anyone will do, depends where you get them from and what sizes and what ur really looking for. dont forget they ALL have there pros and cons... guess i didnt make it any easier
Goodyear GSD3s - had them on my 19" set for my C32. great all around tires as far as handling/performance/wet etc... but cant comment on wear as i only had them for about 4 months. also theyre pretty heavy. i had 235/35 and 265/30 19's for arguments sake.
Bridgstone - no comment, never had them
Toyo T1R - have them on 18" brabus MB VIs on my C32. love these tires, probably my favorite. for the price considering the performance and wear i think they are a great contestant to the PS2 and GSD3 but cost much less then both (well, at least the PS2s were crazy $$$$) sizes are 225/40 & 255/35 18's.
If you need a simple answer i'd say go for the Goodyear or TOYOs. good luck, either way i think anyone will do, depends where you get them from and what sizes and what ur really looking for. dont forget they ALL have there pros and cons... guess i didnt make it any easier
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C32 AMG Maserati Coupe GT
For your reference (tire size=235/35-19):
PS2: 22lbs, Treadwear=220
RE050A-PP: 26lbs Treadwear=140
F1 GS-D3: 24lbs Treadwear=280
RE050 by far the softest compound (comfort) but strongest sidewall strength.
Both PS2 and RER050A-PP have new asymmetric tread design for noise reduction, and rotatability. Only the GS-D3 is with the older directional design. PS2 is middle of the road, most expensive, but you can't really go wrong with it.
PS2: 22lbs, Treadwear=220
RE050A-PP: 26lbs Treadwear=140
F1 GS-D3: 24lbs Treadwear=280
RE050 by far the softest compound (comfort) but strongest sidewall strength.
Both PS2 and RER050A-PP have new asymmetric tread design for noise reduction, and rotatability. Only the GS-D3 is with the older directional design. PS2 is middle of the road, most expensive, but you can't really go wrong with it.
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S600, GL450, GLC 43
For your reference (tire size=235/35-19):
PS2: 22lbs, Treadwear=220
RE050A-PP: 26lbs Treadwear=140
F1 GS-D3: 24lbs Treadwear=280
RE050 by far the softest compound (comfort) but strongest sidewall strength.
Both PS2 and RER050A-PP have new asymmetric tread design for noise reduction, and rotatability. Only the GS-D3 is with the older directional design. PS2 is middle of the road, most expensive, but you can't really go wrong with it.
PS2: 22lbs, Treadwear=220
RE050A-PP: 26lbs Treadwear=140
F1 GS-D3: 24lbs Treadwear=280
RE050 by far the softest compound (comfort) but strongest sidewall strength.
Both PS2 and RER050A-PP have new asymmetric tread design for noise reduction, and rotatability. Only the GS-D3 is with the older directional design. PS2 is middle of the road, most expensive, but you can't really go wrong with it.
Please keep in mind that treadwear alone is NOT the best way to know how soft, best traction, a tire is.
Nor is it the best way to determine how long a tire will last, from brand to brand. My BFG's rated at 220 would wear out WAY before my Goodyears at a treadwear of 180.
Just FYI
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C32 AMG Maserati Coupe GT
Goodyears treadwear is 280 and not 180. So naturally it should last longer than BFG's.
I agree that treadwear is not everything, but it's a big factor in determin how your tires are going to perform. For example, you can easily feel a big difference between Bridgestone's soft 140 rubber and Goodyear's harder 280. The other major factor is the tread design, more rubber on the ground, you are going to get more traction and less control in the wet.
I agree that treadwear is not everything, but it's a big factor in determin how your tires are going to perform. For example, you can easily feel a big difference between Bridgestone's soft 140 rubber and Goodyear's harder 280. The other major factor is the tread design, more rubber on the ground, you are going to get more traction and less control in the wet.
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2005 Renntech C class
Treadwear = how a tire company ranks their tires compared to their own. So a Michelin UTQG 100 tire will last approximately half as long as their UTQG 200 tire.
They only tell you how much mileage you'll get out of the tire but a tire is made up of many things and not just the tread compound.
They only tell you how much mileage you'll get out of the tire but a tire is made up of many things and not just the tread compound.
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The PS2's lasted about 10k miles, but the great traction lasted about 7.. spun my wheels like mad the last 3k miles..
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In my opinion the Michelin PS2's suck big time. The have very little tread depth. I went through my entire set, front and rears in about 12k miles.. $1200 bucks for 12k miles.. They were great at first, but after about 9k miles they had very little grip left..
I just got a set of Nexen 3000's.. The whole set was under $600 installed. I think they are great so far.. the tread is much thicker and the tread pattern looks pretty nice! I went cheap because I might get 19's at some point, but I am very pleased with these so far.. quiet, and seem to grip awesome..
They were great at first, but after about 9k miles they had very little grip left.. I just got a set of Nexen 3000's.. The whole set was under $600 installed. I think they are great so far.. the tread is much thicker and the tread pattern looks pretty nice! I went cheap because I might get 19's at some point, but I am very pleased with these so far.. quiet, and seem to grip awesome..
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S600, GL450, GLC 43
Goodyears treadwear is 280 and not 180. So naturally it should last longer than BFG's.
I agree that treadwear is not everything, but it's a big factor in determin how your tires are going to perform. For example, you can easily feel a big difference between Bridgestone's soft 140 rubber and Goodyear's harder 280. The other major factor is the tread design, more rubber on the ground, you are going to get more traction and less control in the wet.
I agree that treadwear is not everything, but it's a big factor in determin how your tires are going to perform. For example, you can easily feel a big difference between Bridgestone's soft 140 rubber and Goodyear's harder 280. The other major factor is the tread design, more rubber on the ground, you are going to get more traction and less control in the wet.
I was just tring to point out that the number game does not mean everything.
MY BFG R1's for example had treadwear of 60, C Traction and C temp.
Yet they were/are some of the BEST race tires ever.
Traction rating is for a WET stop only.
Oh well, have fun
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2007 E550, 2011 BMW 335i
go with goodyears. I have gone thru one set (no noise issues @ 18k) just put a new set on and i couldn't be happier. i got a great price on them too $1,062.
255/35/18 / 225/40/18.
255/35/18 / 225/40/18.
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C32 AMG Maserati Coupe GT
Treadwear = how a tire company ranks their tires compared to their own. So a Michelin UTQG 100 tire will last approximately half as long as their UTQG 200 tire.
They only tell you how much mileage you'll get out of the tire but a tire is made up of many things and not just the tread compound.
They only tell you how much mileage you'll get out of the tire but a tire is made up of many things and not just the tread compound.
