"Secret" brake pad fitments?
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"Secret" brake pad fitments?
I was surfing at brake pad/rotor web sites and noticed something interesting.
EBC lists a C32/C55 fitment in their RedStuff (ceramic pad) but no corresponding YellowStuff pad. The YellowStuff pad is a track pad that I'd use over the RedStuff for track days (although the RedStuff has worked well).
The RedStuff pad that fits the C32/C55 is part DP31363C (f). That same part number fits several other Benz's, and some of those Benz's also show a YellowStuff pad that fits part no. DP41363R. If both of those fit the other Benz then would the YellowStuff pad fit the C32/C55?
I'll do some digging, but if anyone knows, let me know.
EBC lists a C32/C55 fitment in their RedStuff (ceramic pad) but no corresponding YellowStuff pad. The YellowStuff pad is a track pad that I'd use over the RedStuff for track days (although the RedStuff has worked well).
The RedStuff pad that fits the C32/C55 is part DP31363C (f). That same part number fits several other Benz's, and some of those Benz's also show a YellowStuff pad that fits part no. DP41363R. If both of those fit the other Benz then would the YellowStuff pad fit the C32/C55?
I'll do some digging, but if anyone knows, let me know.
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I've used EMB RedStuff ceramics since 2005 and love them for street and light track use. No rotor problems. Quiet and low dust. I hesitate to change to yellowstuff for track work because the redstuff has worked so well. But if you read the product literature, the redstuff shouldn't be that good!
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found some yellows for the rear: http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pe...=470&year=2004
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hey fifth call porterfield. they can tell you which desiginated pads may be modified to fit the c32. in fact, they are able to offer a wide variety of pads to customers by doing just this. spoils your fun i know....
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/
i buy my r4 directly from them. i will be trying raybestos st43 in a few weeks.
http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/
i buy my r4 directly from them. i will be trying raybestos st43 in a few weeks.
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funny - i need new pads as well and I'm considering the EBC Redstuff
also thinking about getting the SLK55 floating rotors as well but I can't seem to find a part number...
also thinking about getting the SLK55 floating rotors as well but I can't seem to find a part number...
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I don't think people keep good track of what brakes come on which cars..
The DP41363R is supposed to fit the C32, so therefore should fit the C55.
http://www.perfectbrakes.com/products.asp?cat=2604
on a side note, i'm pretty sure they have the wrong pads listed for my car, which i BELIEVE shares the same front brakes as the C32/C55.
The DP41363R is supposed to fit the C32, so therefore should fit the C55.
http://www.perfectbrakes.com/products.asp?cat=2604
on a side note, i'm pretty sure they have the wrong pads listed for my car, which i BELIEVE shares the same front brakes as the C32/C55.
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I just ordered Yellowstuff for the front and rear of my 2003 C32 AMG. I found the parts # on http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/USA%...automotive.xls and ordered them from www.buybrakes.com. Any order over $100 gets free shipping. I should have the pads tomorrow. The www.buybrakes.com website doesn't list the part # as fitting the C32, however.
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I just ordered Yellowstuff for the front and rear of my 2003 C32 AMG. I found the parts # on http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/USA%...automotive.xls and ordered them from www.buybrakes.com. Any order over $100 gets free shipping. I should have the pads tomorrow. The www.buybrakes.com website doesn't list the part # as fitting the C32, however.
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The redstuff appears to throw off less dust. Either one would be fine for street use. I'd favor the redstuff just because of the reduced dust.
One quirk. After a few on-track sessions, the redstuff pads seem to lose their initial cold "bite" so a firmer pedal is required. This goes away after a week or two. If you never use them on-track, you'll never experience this.
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just got my redstuff pads put on. so far so good. they're still bedding in so they squeek ever so slightly at very low speeds. Unlike what most of the websites out there say, the C350 uses the same pads as the C32/C55 and NOT the 2005+ C230 2-piston calipers.
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Could anyone tell me what are front and rear pads part number for the "Red Stuff"?
Are these pads are compatible with the OEM rotors?
One of the retailer in here quoted me $140 for 4 pads, are they reasonable?
Thanks.
Are these pads are compatible with the OEM rotors?
One of the retailer in here quoted me $140 for 4 pads, are they reasonable?
Thanks.
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http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/USA%...automotive.xls has the part #'s.
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Well.. To make a long story short, there were no Yellowstuff pads in the USA. They had to ship from England. I didn't have time to wait so I ordered Porterfield R4 for the front and R4-S for the rear. They worked very well at Gingerman. The R4 are skeaky when cold but they stop AWESOME!
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I used green on my Audi A6 and have used red on my C32. The biggest difference is that the redstuff is a ceramic product while greens are conventional. Both worked extremely well for me. Good stopping power, quiet pads.
The redstuff appears to throw off less dust. Either one would be fine for street use. I'd favor the redstuff just because of the reduced dust.
One quirk. After a few on-track sessions, the redstuff pads seem to lose their initial cold "bite" so a firmer pedal is required. This goes away after a week or two. If you never use them on-track, you'll never experience this.
The redstuff appears to throw off less dust. Either one would be fine for street use. I'd favor the redstuff just because of the reduced dust.
One quirk. After a few on-track sessions, the redstuff pads seem to lose their initial cold "bite" so a firmer pedal is required. This goes away after a week or two. If you never use them on-track, you'll never experience this.
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Anyone is using the new EBC pads called "Ultimax"? I just chat with one of those on-line retailer and they said it is better to use Ultimax because the ceramic pads will "eat" the OEM rotors very quick.
Any comments? I am about to buy the pads soon!
Any comments? I am about to buy the pads soon!
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Nonsense. I've had EBC Ceramics on my C32 for 2+ years and the rotors are fine. This is what the EBC Web site says about "Ultimax" pads (basically, it sounds like their discount line of pads):
July 06 - EBC Brakes launches the Ultimax OEM Plus brake pad range in North American Market
Featuring over 350 part numbers of the top selling brakes for cars, light truck and SUV. The new Ultimax range has a lower price point than the popular EBC sport range and targets the urban commuter market for everyday driving.
Urban commuter market?
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Nonsense. I've had EBC Ceramics on my C32 for 2+ years and the rotors are fine. This is what the EBC Web site says about "Ultimax" pads (basically, it sounds like their discount line of pads):
July 06 - EBC Brakes launches the Ultimax OEM Plus brake pad range in North American Market
Featuring over 350 part numbers of the top selling brakes for cars, light truck and SUV. The new Ultimax range has a lower price point than the popular EBC sport range and targets the urban commuter market for everyday driving.
Urban commuter market?
July 06 - EBC Brakes launches the Ultimax OEM Plus brake pad range in North American Market
Featuring over 350 part numbers of the top selling brakes for cars, light truck and SUV. The new Ultimax range has a lower price point than the popular EBC sport range and targets the urban commuter market for everyday driving.
Urban commuter market?
So, I think it is better for me to get the "redstuff" for my OEM rotors right?
I want to get the R4-S but nobody carries this in Canada.
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I do not know who else sells them but Porterfield themselves is where I bought mine. I got R4 for the front and R4S for the rear for a track day. Awesome brakes! I am going to switch in R4S for the front for street duty since the R4 squeak and dust a lot!
porterfieldbrakes@earthlink.net is how I ordered.
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I received my EBC red stuff yesterday; however, they box also came with 2 connectors, anyone knows what are they?
BTW, I will use my OEM rotors for the new pads and I hope they would eat my rotors!
BTW, I will use my OEM rotors for the new pads and I hope they would eat my rotors!
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I too am considering the EBC Redstuff pads for an upcoming brake job, and either OEM rotors or frozenrotors (http://www.frozenrotors.com/), because of positive feedback I've read on this forum - does anyone know if the front rotors from frozen rotors are OEM-spec (therefore, cross-drilled), or are they simply vented?
I'd love to get the AMG CLK63 (or SLK 55 030) brake upgrade (see specs middle of second page on http://www.amg-mercedes.com/assets/p...ss_english.pdf), but just can't justify the expense (even though, when considering BBKs out there "apples to apples" - this approach seems like the best deal by far).
Looking at price lists for Brembo, Renntech, etc., am I correct in saying that for upgrading to a Front & Rear BBK, you're looking at anywhere from $5k up to $8k+? For those of you who've taken the plunge, did you really feel that the stock C32 brakes were really that bad?
I'm thinking that I can keep the stock size calipers but go a step-up to better pads and possibly rotors also for well under a grand... which leaves a lot of money for other fun stuff that I haven't done yet like Renntech Stage I, possibly headers, etc.
I'd love to get the AMG CLK63 (or SLK 55 030) brake upgrade (see specs middle of second page on http://www.amg-mercedes.com/assets/p...ss_english.pdf), but just can't justify the expense (even though, when considering BBKs out there "apples to apples" - this approach seems like the best deal by far).
Looking at price lists for Brembo, Renntech, etc., am I correct in saying that for upgrading to a Front & Rear BBK, you're looking at anywhere from $5k up to $8k+? For those of you who've taken the plunge, did you really feel that the stock C32 brakes were really that bad?
I'm thinking that I can keep the stock size calipers but go a step-up to better pads and possibly rotors also for well under a grand... which leaves a lot of money for other fun stuff that I haven't done yet like Renntech Stage I, possibly headers, etc.
