rob13572468

you can also go with the V1... the V1 can be converted to remote mount and paired with M20 blinders. the V1 will remote display using the instrument cluster driver display so there is no cutting or drilling.

rob13572468

actually K40 includes a huge warning when you open the laser diffuser instructing that the diffuser must be mounted as far forward as possible and *absolutely* not obstructed in any way. they pretty much say that not only will it not function properly behind the mesh but your ticket warranty will not be honored.

jgsx

I have a V1. The concealed display is nice, but the MAIN V1 unit still has to be in plain view. A handful of cars have a spot where the v1 unit can be hidden and covered with cloth, but there isn't a hidden location for it on the W203.

M20s are nice, and they work well. They are a low price option, but the installation of them is a little tough. The emitters themselves are previous gen, and relatively large. They are too big to fit in the grill. It also takes FOUR blinder units (the M40 kit) all mounted on the front of the car to perform like two current generation small emitters. What's nice about the M20/M40 is it's half the price of the latest and greatest emitters and still works well.

Tump43

The led's only look off center in the picture; in person they are dead on perfectly centered from the driver's seat.

No offense taken to anybody's honest opinions on the effectiveness of K40 laser diffusers. I finally got the system to work properly by following the system reset instructions emailed to me by CLK22. Now when I pass a cop, the LEDs light up (right first, left second) and the system anounces which radar band is being used and whether it is in front of or behind me.

I have not yet encountered police laser, but I'm going to stick with the current mounting locations for a while. I discussed with Matt (CLK22) having the radar diffusers re-mounted in the locations suggested by jgsx. As pointed out, the instructions and common sense seem to dictate that they would work better out in the open and higher. However, in my neighborhood, I really do not want these units to be seen.

Apparently, on my trip back from Boston I did not encounter a single cop who thought to chase me. After I properly reset the system, the K40 picked up every cop I saw and (in highway mode) even some commercial freezers and banks. Putting the system into city mode eliminated those false alerts.

Regards,

rob13572468

this is actually a bit different... i agree that the biggest problem with the v1 is that there is nowhere to put it where it does not stick out like a sore thumb. because of this ive been converting the V1 to run as a remote unit like the K40. the v1 unit gets enclosed in a weather-proof enclosure with a window on the front to allow for laser reception and then mounted inside the front grille area just as the K40 would be. then a special module takes the warnings and displays them as text messages on the instrument cluster while allowing steering wheel control over mode select and muting.

the blinders are too big and that tends to be a problem with quite a few laser jammer solutions out there. when you really think about it all that a laser jammer really is is a bunch 904 nm LED's all powered by a pulse circuit. there is really alot of room for shrinking them down quite a bit and having a the option to install many is the driver really wants. that would go a long way to help protect areas away from the front plate where the lidar operator sometimes target.

jgsx

I have been waiting for one of those cluster displays to pop up for the W203. I have been speaking with someone who has been developing one, but it isn't on the market yet. I've seen them for BMW, but not Benz. Which car is that cluster picture from, and who makes the module?

Yes, you can put the V1 in a weatherproof enclosure and mount it behind the grill. The problem is that you lose the directional detection and that is the primary reason I stick with V1. I'd go with a K40 for radar detection before a concealed V1. At least the K40 retains directional indication.

jgsx

Well I was kinda joking about the radar detection. Just about any descent detector can find a strong K or Ka source. I completely disable X band detection. I think that the K40 is currently the best stealth install radar detector, but I'm such a V1 junkie that it's really difficult for me to switch. The V1 performs much better, but in reality even a tier2 radar detector is good enough these days. Laser is currently the biggest threat that I have to deal with. Who knows, I might switch to a K40 radar + laser interceptor jammer setup sometime.

I still stand by what I said about the K40 laser jammers. They don't work too well even when installed properly. There is a lot more to them than just emitting the 904nm pulses. With your install location, I'm sure in some scenario it might buy you a second, but if the cop is shooting laser at you from a close distance, it will punch through immediately and he will get a reading even if your jammers are going off.

I understand your install scenario. You wanted a true stealth install and you got it. It looks nice and you don't have to worry about anyone seeing it. I wouldn't notice it.

rob13572468

im actually the developer... the pics are from a 211 s class which is the first car to get the module but the modifications are trivial to switch to other mercedes models and they will be shortly available. i see you are in chicago... so am i.

you actually still get directional detection form a grille mounted v1 but the rear radar range is decreased by 60% and of course no rear laser gets through. alot has been said about the effectiveness of having rear detection at all since most (>90%) of the radar intercepts come from the front and all LIDAR intercepts are instructed to be front makes having a rear unit less useful. still i prefer having the rear unit anyway. with the v1 its best to mount a second unit facing rearwards which give you huge effective detection range both front and rear.

TimsSL65

I have the Escort radar detecter and Escort Laser Shifters (their name for laser jammer) installed in the Ferrari. They have saved me from many a ticket. The best feature is that everything is remotely installed, and not visible to the casual observer. Previous to the Escort setup, I had the K40 radar detector and laser jammer. It performed so poorly, it was almost worthless. Lots of false alarms and minimal sensitivity.

My SL600 has the V1 installed on the visor (wired into the dome light). I can't prove it, but I believe that this detector does a slightly better job than the Escort. It's best feature is the radar location directional arrows. I do not have a laser jammer on this car, because I'm anxiously waiting for the highly rated Laser Interceptor to become available in the US.

Also, the Ferrari has a police scanner installed in the glove compartment. The antenna is wired inside of the front windshield frame. The speaker is externally located beneath the dash on the drivers side. This unit is my secondary line of defense should the Escort system fail to detect a threat.

Tim

K40_Owner

The k40-2000 came out the end of 2005. I purchased mine and had it installed 12/7/2005 ever since never not one ticket or false alarm accept one big bank at night time.. and as for the Laser defuser they did'nt have the dual's at the time but I got the single and it has never been punched threw from any laser gun. don't listen to those other idiots. I bet they've never even owned one. oh they might be fimiliar with the units since they read some fake Post about laser jammer test. and yes since 2005 even stated at there website, they did put new technology not only in there sensors but in there jammers as well. and now they even have a smaller lighter plus Dual. and more Diodes in there laser jammers. which help to jam the signals.

Its def better than any other detector out on the market hands down. if you want the best of the best for 360 protection get the k40-2000 with dual laser defusers.
by the way, if you don't beleave me, goto an actual real dealer Licesened by K40.com goto there websites for locations near your city. and let one of the Store owners show you how it works and what it looks like. 10-10 times they own one in there personal car.

K40_Owner

The k40-2000 came out the end of 2005. I purchased mine and had it installed 12/7/2005 ever since never not one ticket or false alarm accept one big bank at night time.. and as for the Laser defuser they did'nt have the dual's at the time but I got the single and it has never been punched threw from any laser gun. don't listen to those other idiots. I bet they've never even owned one. oh they might be fimiliar with the units since they read some fake Post about laser jammer test. and yes since 2005 even stated at there website, they did put new technology not only in there sensors but in there jammers as well. and now they even have a smaller lighter plus Dual. and more Diodes in there laser jammers. which help to jam the signals.

Its def better than any other detector out on the market hands down. if you want the best of the best for 360 protection get the k40-2000 with dual laser defusers.
by the way, if you don't beleave me, goto an actual real dealer Licesened by K40.com goto there websites for locations near your city. and let one of the Store owners show you how it works and what it looks like. 10-10 times they own one in there personal car.

jgsx

Well, as your name shows, you're a k40 *****. I already explained the short comings of the k40 above. It's still the same unit. How in god's name would you know that you never got punch through? That's something that only person shooting the gun could tell, not you in the car.

The current "good" laser jammers are not for sale at retails stores (and are SOMEWHAT difficult to locate).

Newzchspy

[ Anyone in the Chicago area selling and installing the Laser-Interceptor?? I just gotta get one for hte C32; They are using Laser more and More (Il State Police and DuPage County) than ever. Any links to where I can get this done??

Glenn

jgsx

No retail stores sell descent jammers. Google for 'em. Pick up the LI, or if you can get one for a deal, a LPP or AL8 set.

You can probably get someone local to install them, but BE SURE to install them in the proper location (the grill close to the headlights is best)

Hjartarson

The cops don't give you any trouble with a laser jammer where you guys live?

Here, if the police suspect that you have a laser jammer they can very easily get a search warrant for the car, allowing them to tear it apart until they find it. And if they do find it, it results in a fine about 4 times higher than your "normal" traffic fine.

For comparison, I got a 700$ fine for doing 62 mph in a 37 zone.

ChicagoX

Until the laws change, laser frequencies are the domain of the FDA - the Food and Drug Administration.

There are no federal prohibitions on laser jammers like there are for radar jammers in the USA.

jgsx

While that's true in most states, they are explicitly illegal in Illinois.

c32used

Wow...great topic!

K40_Owner

:crazy :
How Would I know, because doing double the speed limit one tends to think if I ever got punched threw before decreasing my speed I would of had a fat ticket. Your pretty dumb there pal.

P S : K 40-2000 with dual laser de fuser yes there is newer technology that was put in them and now with the newer dual de fusers that has been upgraded smaller lighter, and newer technology for a better response in timing and jamming. Nothing can compare to a k40-2000 performance you can kid yourself all you want.

slowrey

If you were doing double the speed limit a cop wouldn't need a laser signal to realize you're going too fast .....

K40's are nice and stealth but not the best at performance.