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Old 08-01-2007, 09:32 AM
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Why is MB-certified oil so hard to find?

Being a loyal forum dweller, I clicked the Pennzoil Platinum banner and navigated around to find out if the oil meets the MB standard. There is some reference on their web site that there are European formulations, but nothing specific. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that I'll not be able to find Euro spec oil at the local auto parts stores (or big-box stores).

Which leads to my general rant. It is unnecessarily difficult to find motor oil that meets the specs of modern cars. I own a Benz, an Audi and an Acura, and because I am loyal to the manufacturer specs, I am utterly unable to buy ANY motor oil for any of these brands at any retail locations. Even the bulk of Mobil 1 product out there fails to meet Benz/Audi spec. the Acura requires an on 5W20 or 0W20 weight that is difficult to find.

So I buy oil in cases via mail order. So who is buying the stuff at auto stores? The Chevy, Dodge, Ford customers? Or customers that ignore the manufacture standard?

Is it really uneconomical for retail stores to stock this stuff? Is there a market opening for higher-end cars (or people who actually care)?
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
Being a loyal forum dweller, I clicked the Pennzoil Platinum banner and navigated around to find out if the oil meets the MB standard. There is some reference on their web site that there are European formulations, but nothing specific. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that I'll not be able to find Euro spec oil at the local auto parts stores (or big-box stores).

Which leads to my general rant. It is unnecessarily difficult to find motor oil that meets the specs of modern cars. I own a Benz, an Audi and an Acura, and because I am loyal to the manufacturer specs, I am utterly unable to buy ANY motor oil for any of these brands at any retail locations. Even the bulk of Mobil 1 product out there fails to meet Benz/Audi spec. the Acura requires an on 5W20 or 0W20 weight that is difficult to find.

So I buy oil in cases via mail order. So who is buying the stuff at auto stores? The Chevy, Dodge, Ford customers? Or customers that ignore the manufacture standard?

Is it really uneconomical for retail stores to stock this stuff? Is there a market opening for higher-end cars (or people who actually care)?
Good point! I get my Mobil 0W 40 from a particular Autozone, but I haven't seen it at other auto stores. Perhaps there isn't a real market for it just yet - one could argue that most people who own high-end cars that require uncommon oil formulations end up getting the dealership / shops to change their oil for them.
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Oil is the easy part here, it's the filter that is tough.
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Oil is the easy part here, it's the filter that is tough.
I either suck it up and buy it at the dealership, or find a bunch online and buy 2 or 3 at a time. I just used my last one, so I need to "re-stock."
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I don't know where you are located but I get my oil Mobile 1 0-w40 for MB from Advance Auto Parts localy or order it from them on internet, and oil filter from Napaonline.com - Bosch filter direct replacement for OEM Flees filter.
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Originally Posted by boohooramblers
Good point! I get my Mobil 0W 40 from a particular Autozone, but I haven't seen it at other auto stores. Perhaps there isn't a real market for it just yet - one could argue that most people who own high-end cars that require uncommon oil formulations end up getting the dealership / shops to change their oil for them.
I get my Mobil 1 0W40 from Walmart! I got my filter from them also, although it took an e-mail and order on Sam's website (not Walmart's site) to get it there! I was in my local Walmart the other day, and the filters are still on the shelf.
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I have found the Mobil 1 0W-40 at Pep Boys, Walmart and Kragens.

In the SF bay area (Silicon Valley), there are so many Mercedes, Porsche, Audi and BMW, there is a large demand here for this oil.
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Same here as most... Mobil 1 0w-40 is everywhere I'd expect - Walmart, Autozone, Advanced Auto Parts, etc etc. Never any trouble finding it.
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mobil-1 0w-40's easilly accessible, but Liqui-Moly FTW!
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I have the same problem around here. I only needed a quart (half qt. low according to computer) and couldn't find it anywhere. I ended up getting a quart of 5W30 and added that. I know you're not supposed to mix and match but figured that was better than being low.
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that's odd our local pepboys had them. Even better they carry Royal purple
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Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt
Get Royal Purple. Problem Solved.
I was wondering if that oil was "approved." Have you found any documentation supporting it?
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Originally Posted by msheredy
I was wondering if that oil was "approved." Have you found any documentation supporting it?
I have no idea if it is, but by far it is the best oil you can get, its high performance motor oil. 7 bucks a quart =). And the oil does really have a purple hue to it.
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Does the oil even matter if you change the oil every 5-6k miles instead of the 12-15k that MB recommends. I mean still use Mobil. I just use the 0w-20 at Wal-Mart and I don't even know if it is approved because you have nothing on the back that says MB approved, it just says honda, ford and Chrysler approved. I change it 5-6k anyhow and it doesn't bother me any and I assume the oil doesn't get a chance to build up with dirt or etc.
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a 20 weight may be too thin for the 5.5L engine...even if you are changing it out every 5-6k. The 20 weight might sheer down to a even thinner weight after some useage, as oils sheer with heat and use.
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Originally Posted by the101dragons
Does the oil even matter if you change the oil every 5-6k miles instead of the 12-15k that MB recommends. I mean still use Mobil. I just use the 0w-20 at Wal-Mart and I don't even know if it is approved because you have nothing on the back that says MB approved, it just says honda, ford and Chrysler approved. I change it 5-6k anyhow and it doesn't bother me any and I assume the oil doesn't get a chance to build up with dirt or etc.
I think you could get by with a non-certified oil, but 0W20 isn't even in the viscosity range that is recommended. That oil is for Acura/Honda motors.
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Definitely can get by, its oil that lubricates but how well it lubricates the engine is another question. If it sheers to too thin of a weight or even starts at too thin of a weight, might not be performing or protecting the engine as well as it could with a more suitable oil.

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