Evosport Stage 2 C32 AMG vs Bone Stock Magnum SRT-8 (Video)
09-04-2007, 04:52 PM
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In fairness to "Haywood" here's our mutual friend Jim K. blowing past me. NOTE, I was not driving (but my instructor was, so that's no excuse) and Jim's driving a fully race-prepped 944 Turbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVWH7QXE7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVWH7QXE7A
09-05-2007, 10:19 AM
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Typically MB/BMW jackass. SRT-8 POS? Ok, you really know alot about cars. I can afford a MB or BMW. I bought my SRT-8 because of the value, looks and all the great reviews. Go ahead, find a bad review. Is the interior cheaper than a MB or BMW? Definitely. But, who gives a crap. Do you watch TV or sleep in your car? Interior superiority is so overrated. You drive a car because of the performance. It's the best Chrysler ever made and its a blast to drive. The handling is amazing for a 4200lb car. Better than a M5? No, but pretty damn close. But, you wouldn't know that because you are better than me because you drive a BMW. Must be compensating for something small.
09-05-2007, 11:08 AM
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No, I'm really not. I just get pissed at people calling the car a POS when they've never driven it. I have a ton of respect for many cars. I'll run with anyone on the street for fun. I don't care if I win or lose. A new Z06 wanted to race me at a light in NJ. So, I did. I stayed with him for about 60 ft!!! At the next light, I gave the thumbs up and the guy was really cool. I don't pretend or claim myself as a car expert. I just love cars. It's funny how anyone could be a "Chrysler jackass"? Isn't that an oxymoron? It doesn't have the cache that MB or BMW has. But, it is an amazing vehicle for the money and shouldn't be disrespected. I think that's why we get defensive.
09-05-2007, 11:15 AM
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Damn you SRT-8 S**T Talkers sure do get around...
Since this has been a 2-way PMSing ***** match, I thought I would add a third Dimension...
First off, I have an idea. These same SRT-8 guys have been in my home forum stirring the pot as well. Myself and Haywood have tenatively planned a date to get together at a real track and go at it. Get it on video and put up or shut up...
So, I propose that one of you C32 guys comes on out too. That way we can see who is King Terd of S**T Hill.
Now, considering that I have a C32 engine, I think this would be very interesting. And as far as the guy in the Detroit area claiming to kill SRT-6s on a regular basis, I'm going to have to call BS on that bro. It doesn't even make sense. Same Engine and drivetrain in a car that weighs between 600-700 LESS? Come on, that shouldn't even come down to the driver. The SRT-6 (all things being equal) WILL BE FASTER THAN A C32. I've run mine on the track. I don't really know what it is ultimately capable of putting down, but this is what has done so far...
THE FIRST THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT IS WAS 97-98 DEGREES and 90% Humidity at the time. I'm sure Heat Soak was also an issue as I was hot lapping it with out cooing it off or turning the engine off.
13.36 @ 105.19
2.01 60 ft.
That was my last run too. After practicing for about 10 runs, I finally got that time with all the heat. Now, you ALL know how bad these things hate heat. What do you think it would do on a good track in cool weather. I predict 13.00. It ran consistant 13.4s all night until that run.
So, let the Chrysler Bashing continue, eventhough I'm MB's Red Headed Step Child...
Since this has been a 2-way PMSing ***** match, I thought I would add a third Dimension...
First off, I have an idea. These same SRT-8 guys have been in my home forum stirring the pot as well. Myself and Haywood have tenatively planned a date to get together at a real track and go at it. Get it on video and put up or shut up...
So, I propose that one of you C32 guys comes on out too. That way we can see who is King Terd of S**T Hill.
Now, considering that I have a C32 engine, I think this would be very interesting. And as far as the guy in the Detroit area claiming to kill SRT-6s on a regular basis, I'm going to have to call BS on that bro. It doesn't even make sense. Same Engine and drivetrain in a car that weighs between 600-700 LESS? Come on, that shouldn't even come down to the driver. The SRT-6 (all things being equal) WILL BE FASTER THAN A C32. I've run mine on the track. I don't really know what it is ultimately capable of putting down, but this is what has done so far...
THE FIRST THING I'LL POINT OUT IS THAT IS WAS 97-98 DEGREES and 90% Humidity at the time. I'm sure Heat Soak was also an issue as I was hot lapping it with out cooing it off or turning the engine off.
13.36 @ 105.19
2.01 60 ft.
That was my last run too. After practicing for about 10 runs, I finally got that time with all the heat. Now, you ALL know how bad these things hate heat. What do you think it would do on a good track in cool weather. I predict 13.00. It ran consistant 13.4s all night until that run.
So, let the Chrysler Bashing continue, eventhough I'm MB's Red Headed Step Child...
09-05-2007, 01:29 PM
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09-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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No, I'm really not. I just get pissed at people calling the car a POS when they've never driven it. I have a ton of respect for many cars. I'll run with anyone on the street for fun. I don't care if I win or lose. A new Z06 wanted to race me at a light in NJ. So, I did. I stayed with him for about 60 ft!!! At the next light, I gave the thumbs up and the guy was really cool. I don't pretend or claim myself as a car expert. I just love cars. It's funny how anyone could be a "Chrysler jackass"? Isn't that an oxymoron? It doesn't have the cache that MB or BMW has. But, it is an amazing vehicle for the money and shouldn't be disrespected. I think that's why we get defensive.
So if it's no problem being defensive of what you purchased, why would it be any different for the people who bought their Mercedes? Someone came to a Mercedes forum and dissed the owners here. Hell did you really think that you guys were not going to get a response?
As for your car.....I really don't care for it, but thats just me. I think Dodge/Chrysler made a good job of it. They gave the consumer in that market a decent value for there dollar. Bottom line is it's your money, you decide how you want to spend it. As for myself if I like the European cars and suv's. As well as I'm partial for Fords. Yes we do pay thru the nose for them. But all and all it's just an opinion
Well since you love your car, why don't you post some pics of your ride....maybe you can convince me to come over to the dark side
09-05-2007, 07:49 PM
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09-05-2007, 10:31 PM
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It seems like a lot of SRT8 and R/T owners are very cocky. I don't think people on here are hating, but it is hard to take things said seriously when the claims are so outlandish. i.e. your SRT-8 handles better than a Z06, and pulls a 4.5 0-60.
Also, talking trash against some of the more established members doesn't help. We can all agree that the SRT8 Chryslers are a good deal for the money. However when you are talking about going up against a much lighter car with about the same HP, it isn't suprising that people don't beleive you.
Also, most people could barely buy a well optioned V6 300 for 27K, let alone even an R/T. That is a good deal, but hardly normal. Also, I wouldn't talk smack against a 413 whp DSM. I had one with a 20G and with their traction you wouldn't have a prayer off the line. They weigh almost 1000 lbs less than your 4200lb beast (A CLK63 AMG Black iirc weighs in at 3800 which is 400 lbs lighter than the 300 or Charger) and 413 whp is a ton with low weight and good traction.
As far as handling goes, I've heard lots of very cocky SRT8 and R/T owners who think their cars are miatas. Sorry, but at around 4200 lbs, it is not going to be able to hang with a Z06 (400 or 500 hp version) or any of the other cars you named. I doubt it could out handle a C43 and no prayer against my modified 951 in terms of handling. Its wishful thinking and stuff of urban legend started by Chrysler owners.
Also, talking trash against some of the more established members doesn't help. We can all agree that the SRT8 Chryslers are a good deal for the money. However when you are talking about going up against a much lighter car with about the same HP, it isn't suprising that people don't beleive you.
Also, most people could barely buy a well optioned V6 300 for 27K, let alone even an R/T. That is a good deal, but hardly normal. Also, I wouldn't talk smack against a 413 whp DSM. I had one with a 20G and with their traction you wouldn't have a prayer off the line. They weigh almost 1000 lbs less than your 4200lb beast (A CLK63 AMG Black iirc weighs in at 3800 which is 400 lbs lighter than the 300 or Charger) and 413 whp is a ton with low weight and good traction.
As far as handling goes, I've heard lots of very cocky SRT8 and R/T owners who think their cars are miatas. Sorry, but at around 4200 lbs, it is not going to be able to hang with a Z06 (400 or 500 hp version) or any of the other cars you named. I doubt it could out handle a C43 and no prayer against my modified 951 in terms of handling. Its wishful thinking and stuff of urban legend started by Chrysler owners.
09-06-2007, 12:23 PM
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It seems like a lot of SRT8 and R/T owners are very cocky. I don't think people on here are hating, but it is hard to take things said seriously when the claims are so outlandish. i.e. your SRT-8 handles better than a Z06, and pulls a 4.5 0-60.
Also, talking trash against some of the more established members doesn't help. We can all agree that the SRT8 Chryslers are a good deal for the money. However when you are talking about going up against a much lighter car with about the same HP, it isn't suprising that people don't beleive you.
Also, most people could barely buy a well optioned V6 300 for 27K, let alone even an R/T. That is a good deal, but hardly normal. Also, I wouldn't talk smack against a 413 whp DSM. I had one with a 20G and with their traction you wouldn't have a prayer off the line. They weigh almost 1000 lbs less than your 4200lb beast (A CLK63 AMG Black iirc weighs in at 3800 which is 400 lbs lighter than the 300 or Charger) and 413 whp is a ton with low weight and good traction.
As far as handling goes, I've heard lots of very cocky SRT8 and R/T owners who think their cars are miatas. Sorry, but at around 4200 lbs, it is not going to be able to hang with a Z06 (400 or 500 hp version) or any of the other cars you named. I doubt it could out handle a C43 and no prayer against my modified 951 in terms of handling. Its wishful thinking and stuff of urban legend started by Chrysler owners.
Also, talking trash against some of the more established members doesn't help. We can all agree that the SRT8 Chryslers are a good deal for the money. However when you are talking about going up against a much lighter car with about the same HP, it isn't suprising that people don't beleive you.
Also, most people could barely buy a well optioned V6 300 for 27K, let alone even an R/T. That is a good deal, but hardly normal. Also, I wouldn't talk smack against a 413 whp DSM. I had one with a 20G and with their traction you wouldn't have a prayer off the line. They weigh almost 1000 lbs less than your 4200lb beast (A CLK63 AMG Black iirc weighs in at 3800 which is 400 lbs lighter than the 300 or Charger) and 413 whp is a ton with low weight and good traction.
As far as handling goes, I've heard lots of very cocky SRT8 and R/T owners who think their cars are miatas. Sorry, but at around 4200 lbs, it is not going to be able to hang with a Z06 (400 or 500 hp version) or any of the other cars you named. I doubt it could out handle a C43 and no prayer against my modified 951 in terms of handling. Its wishful thinking and stuff of urban legend started by Chrysler owners.
But, again, how can you not believe it can do 4.5 0-60 when I posted a picture of a new owner pulling a 4.68 on a stock car? He had the car like a month I think. A simple catback system will allow you do a 4.5. Members who have added SC's, heads, headers, etc. have gotten down to the low 4's. I am totally realistic about what my car can and cannot do. I had fun on the track, but it was evident that the lighter cars were obviously handling better. No surprise there. That's why I'm looking at smaller, quicker car for the track.
09-06-2007, 02:49 PM
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Man, you are completely way off here. I never said it would handle better than a Z06??? ANY 8 cylinder AMG will destroy a SRT-8. Porsche's would also handle better on a track. I know this and appreciate all that.
But, again, how can you not believe it can do 4.5 0-60 when I posted a picture of a new owner pulling a 4.68 on a stock car? He had the car like a month I think. A simple catback system will allow you do a 4.5. Members who have added SC's, heads, headers, etc. have gotten down to the low 4's. I am totally realistic about what my car can and cannot do. I had fun on the track, but it was evident that the lighter cars were obviously handling better. No surprise there. That's why I'm looking at smaller, quicker car for the track.
But, again, how can you not believe it can do 4.5 0-60 when I posted a picture of a new owner pulling a 4.68 on a stock car? He had the car like a month I think. A simple catback system will allow you do a 4.5. Members who have added SC's, heads, headers, etc. have gotten down to the low 4's. I am totally realistic about what my car can and cannot do. I had fun on the track, but it was evident that the lighter cars were obviously handling better. No surprise there. That's why I'm looking at smaller, quicker car for the track.
09-06-2007, 02:51 PM
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http://www.onelapofamerica.com/histo...05&res=OVL_CUM
And check out #6.
Then continue reading and seeing how many Vettes (INCLUDING Z06s) were dusted by that SRT-8.
So if they didn't outhandle the Z06s, how else did they do it?
09-06-2007, 03:41 PM
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Please look at this:
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/histo...05&res=OVL_CUM
And check out #6.
Then continue reading and seeing how many Vettes (INCLUDING Z06s) were dusted by that SRT-8.
So if they didn't outhandle the Z06s, how else did they do it?
http://www.onelapofamerica.com/histo...05&res=OVL_CUM
And check out #6.
Then continue reading and seeing how many Vettes (INCLUDING Z06s) were dusted by that SRT-8.
So if they didn't outhandle the Z06s, how else did they do it?
You have made it very clear to us that the SRT8 is far superior in every way than our C32s. Cool, I can live with that.
But now the assertion that the SRT8 outhandles a Z06? Come on, what's next, SRT8 outflies the space shuttle?
For a while you carried a valid argument. Now you're just making a fool of yourself. You’ve lost all credibility in our eyes. Please sell crazy somewhere else.
09-06-2007, 03:45 PM
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You have made it very clear to us that the SRT8 is far superior in every way than our C32s. Cool, I can live with that.
But now the assertion that the SRT8 outhandles a Z06? Come on, what's next, SRT8 outflies the space shuttle?
For a while you carried a valid argument. Now you're just making a fool of yourself. You’ve lost all credibility in our eyes. Please sell crazy somewhere else.
But now the assertion that the SRT8 outhandles a Z06? Come on, what's next, SRT8 outflies the space shuttle?
For a while you carried a valid argument. Now you're just making a fool of yourself. You’ve lost all credibility in our eyes. Please sell crazy somewhere else.
The PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
