Marc

I was really surprised by the outcome of this one. I thought for sure the C32 with all those mods would be able to pull a stock SRT-8.

http://titsup-racing.com/video/maggi..._vs_c32amg.wmv

neihouma

Oh that ain't right, couldn't see the plate on the 3rd run

And is it just me, the driver of the Magnum was a chick?

Marc

There are no plates on the C32. Only a temp tag on the glass.

Yep, that was my girl running the Magnum. How'd you know?

Fifth Ring

Well, I was on a roadcourse (VIR) with an SRT8 with an aftermarket exhaust and some "chip" and on a one-mile-long back stretch, my bone-stock C32 ran pretty much dead even with him. I'm starting to wonder if these magical mods are really effective!

Marc

Well FWIW, my old SLK32 AMG actually lost 1MPH in the 1/4 mile with the Evosport pullies, but it wasn't a back to back test done on the same day.

Code3 Performance

Interesting. What kind of numbers do you put down? The Magnum weighs 4250...The C32 weighs what, 3600lbs? If you are full stage 2, then it would seem at the least that your car would hang. What are you doing to cool that monster anyway? Must be time for a bigger HE

neihouma

I'm psychic and I see everything...

But on a serious note, maggie_vs_c32amg.wmv was a dead giveaway

dkflipse

Note to self: Don't run against an SRT-8.

moosejaw

Not that I look for these kind of races. But I was able to pull ahead of a Srt-8 Charger on the palmetto epxwy this weekend. Sumthing is not right. The c32 stage ii should be puttin out the similar whp to the magnum.

jturkel

yah i agree something is definitely not right. on the other side, however, i do believe that SRT-8 Charger's trap higher than the C32, so pulling on it from a roll seems a bit unlikely (not intending to undermine your race or what may you.)

moosejaw

I had to use google to counterpoint cos my car is mostly stock and i wanted to see 4 myself. From a quick search i found that a couple of Charger Srt-8's trap anywhere from mid to high 13's @ 99 to 103, nothing higher unless it was turbocharged or the driver had wishful thinking. A stock c32 on a similar search trapped low to mid 13's @ 108-109. I also found out that the Srt8's whp is around 360. There is no reason why that stage ii c32 couldn't outgun the Maggie.

e1000

C32 should do much better than the video shows.

jturkel

i should clarify my statement. i meant that the stage II C32 should have certainly pulled on the maggie. no question in my mind. maybe the C32 was experiencing some heat soak or the temps were high and humid. or maybe even the SRT-8 wasnt stock idk.

stock versus stock? Motortrend cites the SRT8 for 13.5 at 106.3. Road and Track cites it for 13.3 at 108.2. Road and Track rates the C32 at 13.6 though does not give a trap speed. Mine ran a 14.1x at like 101, but that is with 91 octane (thank you arizona) and horrible heat. Someone correct me on this, but i think stock C32's generally run around 13.3-13.6. not sure of the trap speed. anyone with that figure?

Eurocharged Rick

i ran 13.6 @ 103 bone stock...

a stage 2 C32 should trap in the 110-112 range easily and be able to pull a stock SRT8...

with stage 1 have have been running consistent 108 trap speed with my highest being 110mph...

Corrosive

Any thoughts about heat and how long the C32 was driving b4 this. The watercooling does not work so well on longish drives... I did not watch the video, so if its snowing just ignore this, lol..

-Mike

1FSTAMG

I've seen a bone stock 300C SRT8 run 13.2@108 at the track. 1.9 60 ft. Showroom stock. The Magnum is about 100 lbs heavier, but same drivetrain and runs very similar times.

Stock vs stock, the SRT8 cars and C32's should be a driver's race with a slight advantage going to the SRT8's. A stage 2 C32 shouldn't have a problem with a stock SRT8 though.

Marc

You must be looking at the R/T model, not the SRT-8. SRT-8s on average trap 108-110 stock. C&D got a 13.2 @ 109...

http://www.caranddriver.com/roadtest...rt8-page4.html

Marc

The SRT-8 is mine and I assure you it's bone stock with 3,200 miles on the clock.

Marc

Yeah, I was a bit surprised by the outcome since we thought he had to be trapping 110-112 too. Some guys with Magnum SRT-8s have trapped 110-111 bone stock according to their posts on the SRT-8 forums. Seems like the results vary a lot and some guys have stronger cars than others. I guess I got a strong one.

Marc

Before the races, the C32 AMG had been sitting in the parking lot for approximately 45 minutes. So I don't think cooling was an issue.

I forgot to mention he also has the Ford Lightning IC pump.

Code3 Performance

The Ford pump is simply a replacement, and does nothing for cooling above the stock pump. The video is clear as to what happened. But how, thats a different story. The simple fact is, this race should have been more even. But hey, thats the way it went down, so thats the way it goes Good races. I still say the Stage 2 needs a bigger HE

Marc

Does upgrading the HE make that big a difference? What kind of exchangers are you guys running and how much do they cost? I'll pass the info along to my buddy.

It's been a while since I was into the 32AMG. I had an SLK32 back in '03 which ran 12.84@109 bone stock and then 12.7@108 with pulleys/drag radials.

MRAMG1

Hey marc:

I don't know what happened in that race, but my brother and his friend have two Chrysler 300's SRT's and I beat them both by about 1-2 car lengths in the quarter. According to Chrysler, the Charger is SLOWER than the 300, don't undserstand that either since they are the same motor, and the charger is lighter, slightly.

Anyway, my BONE stock C32 is the clear winner

Don't be afriad and try them from a Dead stop, remember they are HEAVY

See yeah

ProjectC55

There's something wrong with that C32! With those mods it's slow as hell. My car runs neck and neck with my friends modded 300CSRT8(headers,full exh,cai,modded ECU,380whp & 370wtq in 3rd gear mustang dyno)
which is also much lighter than the Magnum to stratosheric speeds. He has run a best 1/4 mile at E-town of 12.6@ 111mph. So this does not make sense. I could only imagine what my car would do to a stck SRT8.



Oh I'd like to add that I had two V8 RS4's and a W209 CLK 55 for dinner one night doing slow rolls and dead stop starts to stratospheric speeds.

My mods are listed below.

Fifth Ring

Kind of funny to refer to it this way. It's just two dorks on a dark stretch of road pushing the gas pedal to the floor!

It's also possible that the speed they ran put the C32 in a bad gear. Also, it's not heat soak if they were running at speed. When I ran behind and kept pace with the SRT8, it was at a race track on a sunny, warm day.