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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 02:47 AM
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Ok Guys

Here are the results on the track that tells differences if any with the more popular choices compared to stock air filters. Basically I see no major difference with the aftermarket filters but definitely see a difference with the stock filters. All runs were by the same guys with time inbetween for cooling while replacing filters. Conditions were near perfect for the SC cars. Its all preference guys between the two aftermarket filters. My preference is the Greens but the K&N seem better built. By the way if you haven't read my thread on this the K&N cleaner does a better job at cleaning the Green filters.

The 1st pic shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd pic shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)

The 4th run well its my car besting a stock E55 who's non-owner driver made a huge burnout but almost caught me but I will take the momentary win
C32used 13.5780@103.93 ChicagoX 14.9370@104.89
Attached Thumbnails Track results K&N, GREENS, STOCK FILTERS!-k-nbestslip.jpg   Track results K&N, GREENS, STOCK FILTERS!-gfbestslip.jpg   Track results K&N, GREENS, STOCK FILTERS!-c32stockfilterslip.jpg   Track results K&N, GREENS, STOCK FILTERS!-c32-vs-e55-slip.jpg  

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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Well done on the effort.....
keep up the good work
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by c32used
Ok Guys

Here are the results on the track that tells differences if any with the more popular choices compared to stock air filters. Basically I see no major difference with the aftermarket filters but definitely see a difference with the stock filters. All runs were by the same guys with time inbetween for cooling while replacing filters. Conditions were near perfect for the SC cars. Its all preference guys between the two aftermarket filters. My preference is the Greens but the K&N seem better built. By the way if you haven't read my thread on this the K&N cleaner does a better job at cleaning the Green filters.

The 1st scan shows the best run with the K&N filters,(13.4360@104.58)
The 2nd scan shows best time with Green filters,(13.4602@103.93)
The 3rd shows best with stock filters.(13.9038@101.60)

The 4th run well its my car besting a stock E55 who's non-owner driver made a huge burnout but almost caught me but I will take the momentary win
C32used 13.5780@103.93 ChicagoX 14.9370@104.89

Edit" it did not let me upload the scans so will upload the pictures from my cellphone in the morning"
VERY NICE c32used

Your results confirmed my G-tech results which showed K/N's had a .19 average second drop in my 0-60 times over the stockers

THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK

See yeah
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Great 411!

Thanks much
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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VERY NICE c32used

Your results confirmed my G-tech results which showed K/N's had a .19 average second drop in my 0-60 times over the stockers

THANKS FOR THE GREAT WORK

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It really don't matter the time difference between the aftermarket filters in my opinion cause the driver could of had a better reaction time and less spin so its all whatever one likes as long as they are not stock filters if anyone cares to borrow me a set of other filters to test(I will pay for return shipping)
It looks like there will be another track day in mid-November.
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Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Good results. Multiple runs would help, but this evidence is pretty strong. Turns out, the 944 I bought has a K&N filter, and it was cheaper to buy the "filtercharger" cleaning kit than buy a Porsche OEM filter, so I guess I'll start drinkin' the Kool Aid too.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Good results. Multiple runs would help, but this evidence is pretty strong. Turns out, the 944 I bought has a K&N filter, and it was cheaper to buy the "filtercharger" cleaning kit than buy a Porsche OEM filter, so I guess I'll start drinkin' the Kool Aid too.
They are the best run from multiple runs with engine cooling inbetween and the same driver. I had the K&N already in car just bought Green filters not knowing and wanted to provide the differences for others to compare that's all. Just wanted to prove OEM filters are a restriction.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Fifth Ring
Good results. Multiple runs would help, but this evidence is pretty strong. Turns out, the 944 I bought has a K&N filter, and it was cheaper to buy the "filtercharger" cleaning kit than buy a Porsche OEM filter, so I guess I'll start drinkin' the Kool Aid too.
Hey fifth:

Don't forget, a LITTLE oil goes a LONG way. I have about four cans of left over oil, but yet they NEVER give you enough cleaner

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MRAMG1
Hey fifth:

Don't forget, a LITTLE oil goes a LONG way. I have about four cans of left over oil, but yet they NEVER give you enough cleaner

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The stressful part is that you really don't know whether you've used too little oil. The red coloration method starts to lose effectiveness as the filter gets older and blacker, so you're left guessing. And it's not like you're going to notice any real degradation or performance problem for using too little oil -- at least not until you've done some damage. All in all, I'd rather have an OEM filter so I know I'm actually filtering; but since it came w/ K&N, that's what I'll use.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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So were filters the only thing that you changed between the runs? If you can get a near half second gain on your 1/4 mile with just filters, I might have to give this a shot as a first mod.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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hmmmm

Wondering if the same theory would hold true for the C55....

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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by c32used
They are the best run from multiple runs with engine cooling inbetween and the same driver. I had the K&N already in car just bought Green filters not knowing and wanted to provide the differences for others to compare that's all. Just wanted to prove OEM filters are a restriction.
You know what you need to try now? is NO Filter at all on (1) run I've read a lot of drag racers do this (it wont hurt your car) it would be interesting to see what your time difference is compared to all the filters you've tried, there's also some really good Foam filters which are supposed to give even better perf than K&N or Green.
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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You know what you need to try now? is NO Filter at all on (1) run I've read a lot of drag racers do this (it wont hurt your car) it would be interesting to see what your time difference is compared to all the filters you've tried, there's also some really good Foam filters which are supposed to give even better perf than K&N or Green.
i agree, if you can at least try it without filters on one run, that would be great. i don't think there are any foam filters available for the 32 boxes...
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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i agree, if you can at least try it without filters on one run, that would be great. i don't think there are any foam filters available for the 32 boxes...
Yes you're correct I don't know what Foam filters are available for the 32 although I do know Virus had some custom made for the E55's
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Old Oct 18, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Yes you're correct I don't know what Foam filters are available for the 32 although I do know Virus had some custom made for the E55's
right, i have the 55 boxes on my car, do you know if there has been any testing done between the foam filters and K&N or Green?
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So were filters the only thing that you changed between the runs? If you can get a near half second gain on your 1/4 mile with just filters, I might have to give this a shot as a first mod.
I don't know if it helps but I have magnecor 8mm wires, Denso Iridium plugs, SL55 splitter and SprintBooster also found out on the track that the previous owner must have installed a LSD so I have both wheels pushing evenly. Its probably why she felt so easy to drive in the snow last winter

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:37 AM
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Wondering if the same theory would hold true for the C55....

Track it and find out.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Thericker
You know what you need to try now? is NO Filter at all on (1) run I've read a lot of drag racers do this (it wont hurt your car) it would be interesting to see what your time difference is compared to all the filters you've tried, there's also some really good Foam filters which are supposed to give even better perf than K&N or Green.

It was mentioned while we were there will try it on our next track day.....as I mentioned before if anyone wants to send me other filters to test I will put them to the test also. As for foam filters I never heard of them so if you could post a weblink about it I will appreciate it.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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RENNtech sells foam sport filter. I had a set but never used them. Sold them when I sold my RENNtech CF airbox

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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I don't know if it helps but I have magnecor 8mm wires, Denso Iridium plugs, SL55 splitter and SprintBooster also found out on the track that the previous owner must have installed a LSD so I have both wheels pushing evenly. Its probably why she felt so easy to drive in the snow last winter
The electronic "fake" LSD will make the car feel like it has LSD. Not in all situations, but in a drag race, it will stop one wheel from spinning madly.
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Old Oct 19, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by c32used
I don't know if it helps but I have magnecor 8mm wires, Denso Iridium plugs, SL55 splitter and SprintBooster also found out on the track that the previous owner must have installed a LSD so I have both wheels pushing evenly. Its probably why she felt so easy to drive in the snow last winter
Ok well regardless of what you do have, if you only changed the type of filter between these runs, you can attribute most of the gains to that alone. So is that the case? Oh and were track temps the same (or close) in each run?
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thank you..

Very good information, but also some have mentioned why not try to run the car without an air filter and see the results
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Originally Posted by tech_frog
Wondering if the same theory would hold true for the C55....

I suspect air flow is more important to a car that is supercharged or turbocharged since it is, by definition, "forced induction."
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