amgstyle

does anybody have this intake on there 32. it's says that they made gains on this intake.

boohooramblers

Is that the NeedsWings intake setup? Haven't read about any C32 owners trying it out. Judging by the posts in the X-fire forum it appears to work wonders!

calimax

I can see how this would be a good improvement on the N/A motor with the more restrictive baffeled box, but anyone who would think this can benefit a S/C motor, seriously needs to re-think what they're spending their $$ on. Restrictions in air flow before the S/C from most factory intakes are not an issue. It's the flow of air after the S/C that will have an effect on the motor. And nobody chime in on the intake temp being affected either please! The last thing anybody should worry about, is the temp befor the forced induction!. Heck most all manufacturers make their vehicles with cold air intakes from the factory, their just more turbulent because of all the resonance chambers for the sound deadening. Just remember this one thing, MB has been making ram cold air intakes for decades now. Yay for a N/A, Hell No for F/I

stallion8797

TVT Design offers one for the N/A, but that's besides the point.
I have to disagree about a properly flowing intake not helping forced induction. I know K&N got something ridiculous like 54HP from their Cobra kit.

How can the supercharger suck enough air if the tube can't support the flow. By using your logic, yo would ge the same power by running it through a straw...

Eurocharged Rick

this intake will not fit on the C32, there is not enough room...

calimax

My apology's, I should have said, anyone who would think this intake can benefit this S/C motor, seriously needs to re-think what they're spending their $$ on. I also said, Restrictions in air flow before the S/C from most factory intakes are not an issue. (Not all!)
Wouldn't that same logic that you say I'm thinking, be said true about this intake set up?? The factory MB intake has 2 intake tubes split off from the T/B. This intake setup has only Half the amount of air going to the T/B and the I/D of that intake tube does not look like the two sides combined! As for K&N's Cobra intake, was that a Advertisement by K&N, or 3rd party testing? If that wasn't exaggerated advertising, Holy crap!, Short of holding your hand over the T/B that must have been one hell of a restrictive intake!

c32used

I believe there is a forum member adapting this to fit the C32 but I won't give anymore hints...

splinter

Reducing the upstream inlet temperature will result in a 1:1 reduction in IATs in an otherwise properly functioning heat exchanger circuit. Link.

My reservation with that setup is its reduction in filter media surface area and the likelihood of increased restriction. That, and the fact it will not fit the C32.

*edit*
It may work on your SLK32

amgstyle

thanks guys. wat if it did fit the c32 would this be a good mod or would the sl 55 intake be better??

c32used

Well SC and Turbos love air so there is a possibillity it will be better but the C32 who knows pretty sure someone will chime in if this was adapted to our C32 if it will work better then the full SL55 setup.

calimax

I absolutely agree with your statement in all cases. The Kenne Bell link you provided, is referring to what was commonly known in the recent years as a Short Ram / POP Charger intake. That theory is 100% correct and that was a stupid intake that was marketed. I truly believe that style of intake was marketed out to kids who wanted to "hear" their car (seemingly go faster) However, were not talking about creating an increase in IAT's through one of these intakes. I guess I should have considered other avenues of intake designs, before I made that quote above, but I was secretly hoping nobody was dumb enough to raise the AIT's in any car, let alone a Forced induction motor such as ours that suffer enough as is! Simply, I meant in a case like ours, the temp of the air going in with factory intake in place, or even aftermarket cold air, such as this single tube style, any small reduction in AIT will not create any realistic benefit to the air that will directly and immediately be increased tremendously, via S/C or Turbo before it goes into the motor. Cooling after the charge, is where it will benifit the motor most. That would be why intercoolers are so popular. BTW Nitrous or Methy/water spray, does not count as a small decrease in temp.

calimax

oops, I guess you took my quote out. To clarify for others, Quoted from me by Splinter; "The last thing anybody should worry about, is the temp before the forced induction!" Just clarifying so I don't look crazy!

benz_addict

+1

even tho I have a C230 I've thought about and tried doing this. Did not work not enough room. Stock is better

calimax

Yeah, the new V6 C230 would be better off with the stock piping due to it's size, but with a box like the Renntech, nice and smooth inside and in CF! Now if this were on the 4cyl C230K replacing the stock pipe was an improvement.

The Toy

I put this one on my SRT-6. On the dyno it gained 30hp to the wheels.
It's from BDJ's Racing in Texas.

http://www.bdjsracing.com/

c32used

It looks cool but without the airboxes it looks well.....plain.

hkycoldrct

Kind of hard to see what filter they are using and what the pleate configuration it is in that set-up. Do you have a direct link to it you can post here??

The Toy

This link is from the Crossfire site, but it shows alot more pics of his intake. I'm sure if someone stopped by his shop he could get one fitted up.
http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=20139

msheredy

I do. It works great too! As a matter of fact Rob at Needswings (the manufacture of this intake) is looking for some SLK32 owners to try it out. Here is the link to the thread.

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ad.php?t=20835

The dyno results speak for themselves.

http://www.needswings.com/ProductDet...?productID=571

I'm just shocked that you can't see how a forced induction engine wouldn't benefit from a more efficient intake system. You need to let that air pump breathe. I can't tell you how many magazine articles and car TV shows that I have seen in my life where they post gains by swapping out the restrictive OEM intake system for an aftermarket unit such as this.

Don't take my word for it either.

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ght=needswings

http://www.crossfireforum.org/forum/...ght=needswings

sales@eurocharged.com

Damn...I guess I'll have to be the one to order it for testing.

Zeppelin

Evosport prototyped one like that on their C32 and it lost HP All that engine heat entering the filters can't be beneficial.

calimax

The intake with the dual filters looks like it's using a generic foam style filter, no pleats involved

calimax

Please don't be shocked! I absolutely understand how ANY intake that is restrictive, can benefit from a more free flowing design. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that air going through a cylinder vs factory boxes would be more efficient. After seeing the few happy customers in the SRT forums, it seems like a night and day difference for them! It only seems to me that an intake system cut in half would be more restrictive, but then factoring in the 2 panel filter boxes causing unnecessary turbulence, I can see where it should free up some power, I just never thought it would make up that much and then add that much more by cutting the intake in half!
That second intake with the dual filters seems like it would work better, but with the filters behind the grill like the first one. If either one works that well, 20hp for $500 would be worth it!

DCarrera

Good heavens.. that's what I thought I saw too.

RED ALERT!! RED ALERT!!

calimax

you know, if it wasn't so damn ugly to do on our cars, I would scrap the intake altogether, and just run the pipe straight up through the hood, like a shaker hood, but with out the shaking.... You couldn't get more efficient than that, but it would look ugly.