Puff of smoke, and transmission fluid leak
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Puff of smoke, and transmission fluid leak
The wife and I were driving back from Ikea when I noticed while driving on the highway that the car wasn't accelerating very strong when I pushed the gas pedal down further. It almost felt like it didn't want to kick down a gear, and the pull was minimal. After it doing this twice, I pushed the pedal to the floor and it accelerated a little bit better but still not normal. I also noticed some puffs of smoke coming out the back, so I let off right away. After a minute, and at slower speeds, tried giving it more gas again. This time it seemed to accelerate normal with no smoke. I gave it one more try and it pulled normal again with no smoke. Then from low speed, I did a brief wide open run. The pull was normal, and still no smoke. The engine ran and idled smooth, sounding and feeling completely normal. Only thing I've done different lately was putting in a bottle of Techron the other day when I filled up.
So after we get home, I pulled in the garage and parked the car. A few minutes later, the wife asked if I could back out the car because she needed the space. When I backed it out, I noticed two very small puddles of trans fluid on the ground. The car was backed out onto the driveway just for a couple minutes, and when I pulled it back in, there were two small trans fluid spots on the driveway as well. From what I've found in searching, it sounds like it might be the trans o-ring that's leaking.
I guess my question would be more the the Chicago guys. Is there a good place in the area/suburbs that is trustworthy with fixing something like this?
So after we get home, I pulled in the garage and parked the car. A few minutes later, the wife asked if I could back out the car because she needed the space. When I backed it out, I noticed two very small puddles of trans fluid on the ground. The car was backed out onto the driveway just for a couple minutes, and when I pulled it back in, there were two small trans fluid spots on the driveway as well. From what I've found in searching, it sounds like it might be the trans o-ring that's leaking.
I guess my question would be more the the Chicago guys. Is there a good place in the area/suburbs that is trustworthy with fixing something like this?
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I scheduled an appointment with MB of Westmont, but will look into CPT for future service.(hopefully won't need it) I looked on the map and CPT actually isn't too far from me. That is convenient.
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Dropped it off at MB of Westmont this morning, and they gave me an ML350 for a loaner. Not too bad. The gal mentioned that replacing the o-ring on the trans fluid pan would be only around $250. Not too bad. I'm having them check the suspension also because I think the front driver's side control arm bushing needs to be replaced. I'm driving it down to FL in August, so I want to make sure everything is working right before I leave.
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Big props to MB of Westmont. They called me back quickly to let me know that the problem was indeed the bolt on the trans fluid pan. They quoted me a total price to fix it of $225 including tax. Not bad at all. In addition, I had them inspect the suspension because of the noise I was hearing up front. They said the control arm bushings were bad and quoted me a total price to replace them of $400. Fair enough.
Unfortunately when they were replacing the bolt on the trans fluid pan, there was a problem with the threading on the bolt plate being damaged. They said that it looks like someone had overtightened the bolt before and that caused the problem. So the total cost to repair is going to be a bit more, but overall I have been extremely impressed with their professionalism and promptness in getting back to me. While they had the car, I asked them to do a full check over and see if there were any other leaks or repairs to be made. Everything else checked out fine, so I am otherwise good to go. Considering some of the bad experiences I've had with dealerships in the past, this has been a nice surprise. So again, my hat is off to MB of Westmont.
Unfortunately when they were replacing the bolt on the trans fluid pan, there was a problem with the threading on the bolt plate being damaged. They said that it looks like someone had overtightened the bolt before and that caused the problem. So the total cost to repair is going to be a bit more, but overall I have been extremely impressed with their professionalism and promptness in getting back to me. While they had the car, I asked them to do a full check over and see if there were any other leaks or repairs to be made. Everything else checked out fine, so I am otherwise good to go. Considering some of the bad experiences I've had with dealerships in the past, this has been a nice surprise. So again, my hat is off to MB of Westmont.
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$225 for a tranny fluid bolt? Sounds expensive to me.
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Search around. It's a somewhat common problem, and does cause loss of power and smoking. I did a lot of searching after it initially happened, and the symptoms of that problem were exactly what I was experiencing.
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I paid less than the lowest price quoted by anyone else for the fix. I'm failing to see where I was ripped off.
In case it happens to you, here is some info on the problem:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...+trans+leaking
Hope your dealer treats you as fair as mine did to me.
In case it happens to you, here is some info on the problem:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...+trans+leaking
Hope your dealer treats you as fair as mine did to me.
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I paid less than the lowest price quoted by anyone else for the fix. I'm failing to see where I was ripped off.
In case it happens to you, here is some info on the problem:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...+trans+leaking
Hope your dealer treats you as fair as mine did to me.
In case it happens to you, here is some info on the problem:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...+trans+leaking
Hope your dealer treats you as fair as mine did to me.
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Seems like it's fine so far. When I had it in there, the service person did say that it's a common problem with MB cars and they have done that fix more than once. I did see a DIY for it, but just wasn't feeling motivated enough to do it myself. Regardless, just wanted this to be an fyi in case anyone else starts experiencing this problem with theirs......and to let anyone in in the Chicago burbs to know where they can get it fixed at a reasonable price.
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They did a full inspection of the car while they had it in for the repair, and said everything else checked out fine. I got the car for a steal, so I'm not going to complain too much over one repair that was free and one that was of minimal cost.
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you a more tolerate guy then I. I would be mad if i had problems related to the drive train in less then a month of ownership.
Usually they warranty the drive train for the first month, I guess the laws are slightly different in illionis versus california when it comes to used cars.
Usually they warranty the drive train for the first month, I guess the laws are slightly different in illionis versus california when it comes to used cars.
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there are 2 rubber o-rings that you have to replace, they cost about $1 for a bag of them. if you have a lift you can replace them in about 20-30 mins. if you are using jacks, it's a little harder and can take an hour.
I've seen some shops use rtv silicone to fix this problem, so beware! that fix will not last as long as a replacement set of o-rings!
~Mike~
I've seen some shops use rtv silicone to fix this problem, so beware! that fix will not last as long as a replacement set of o-rings!
~Mike~
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you a more tolerate guy then I. I would be mad if i had problems related to the drive train in less then a month of ownership.
Usually they warranty the drive train for the first month, I guess the laws are slightly different in illionis versus california when it comes to used cars.
Usually they warranty the drive train for the first month, I guess the laws are slightly different in illionis versus california when it comes to used cars.
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there are 2 rubber o-rings that you have to replace, they cost about $1 for a bag of them. if you have a lift you can replace them in about 20-30 mins. if you are using jacks, it's a little harder and can take an hour.
I've seen some shops use rtv silicone to fix this problem, so beware! that fix will not last as long as a replacement set of o-rings!
~Mike~
I've seen some shops use rtv silicone to fix this problem, so beware! that fix will not last as long as a replacement set of o-rings!
~Mike~
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the guarantee makes it worth the money since it's never fun to repair the same thing twice.
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okay time to bring up an old thread. so i had to replace the pilot bushing, o-rings, pan gasket and filter, oh yeah and new fluid lol. after all this driving home from my shop i noticed some white smoke as described above. then after i got on the gas to pass a car, there was smoke trailing behind the car? i put the 32 up for a while and bought a 98 4runner to get around so i didnt put the miles on my baby. well i took it out today for the first time in a month and noticed a nice puddle of tranny fluid on the garage floor. i looked under the car and noticed a nice smear of tranny fluid everywhere! the lever is fine. i will admit that i added a little too much when i did the fix. but not enough to do damage. the smoke came back and the trail is there sometimes. the smell of burning fluid is always there. i took the skid pan off under the tranny pan and found what i think is about a 1/2-3/4 a quart spread over the plate? maybe i didnt tighten the pilot bushing enough because now that im thinking about it, the majority of the fluid is coming from the bushing location. now i did break that red seal on the dipstick tube and i didnt replace it with a new one. but to me it felt snug on the tube without the seal. after popping the hood it was gone! it is almost like fluid traveled up the tube and pushed it out. the cat is covered in the fluid. ill have it up on a lift tomorrow to check. i do need some advice though so i know exactly what im looking for.