SeeKlasse

haha ... the fact that you made a personal attack on me is evidence to me that i struck a softspot when noting your V6's lameness.... its two inline 3's for cryin out loud.... i could have bought a C32 or a C55 (cash) but since theyre both really fast cars i figured id get in alot more trouble. theres a reason why the C32 is the most wrecked mercedes-amg of all time, large production numbers (comparatively) and alot of power.

one interesting peice of info.... the c32 gets by the c55 on the ring... according to my searches, the c32 is 8:37 and the c55 is 8:22 ouch...

also according to my search, i found an old post on MBworld stating that the c43 beats the c32 around hockenheim...

TemjinX2

this is true when comparing apples to apples, but your comparing a stock FI c32 to a NA C55 and converting it to FI.

The cost of converting NA engines for FI usually outweighs the returns in performance.

Looking back at amgsc twin charging thread he basically spend $20k to 20K+ on making him hit 500+ tq and i believe 434whp.

Once the LEt turbo kit is done, you can spend $7k on the kit and have 500whp.

If i wanted to drop $20k, i would rather just buy a used e55. There comes a point where the cost to mod isn't worth it and its just better to buy another car just as fast stock.

TemjinX2

looking back at your other thread i will revise my statment.

stock vs stock c55 is faster


modded vs modded $10k and below in mods the c32 is faster.

$20k + in modds the c55 is faster because i'm trading in my c32 for a e55

hooleyboy

Kleemann SC is only 8K software 1k =9k uninstalled
This thread is dead

TemjinX2

There's no real reason why they use v8's other then the fact they just chose to use them. If you look at F1, there 4 cyclinder turbos were making more power then there v8's.

Then FIA changed there mind and went to v8's then changed there mind and went to v10's then changed there mind again and went back to v8's with a hybrid electric motor speed boost option.

Using those racing leagues as examples isn't really proof that v8's are the best performance option.

Nascar isn't really a racing series to show performance, there more for entertainment. How much performance are you going to see when the technology in those car's haven't changed in 20yrs and all the cars are exactly the same?

At least FI forces there teams to use new technology to improve performance.

V8's are dead, $5 gas killed it, unless you live in saudia arabia.

TemjinX2

Do you have links to prove your production and wrecked statements? i never heard of this, but i would like to see some facts.

As for the ring time, i think it makes sense that a manufacturer when they produce a new model, would try to make it faster then the previous model.

The ring time is irrelevant for your argument about the v6 being lame since much of the improved time came from the improved suspension on the c55 vs the c32, the added 20 crank hp from the v8 only had a small impact on the actual ring time.

TemjinX2

Yeah, but how reliable will it be without FI internals?

I'll stick by revised statement for now.

AMGSC

The dyno listed is from Vadim running at 6psi with 450rwtq. I dyno'd it myself at JBA Racing in SD, CA and it pulled 579rwtq before we shut it down at 2000rpm due to lean condition, running 14.5-1 AFR with 8psi with smaller pulley.

I'm not doing another dyno since I'm replacing the motor with a 7.3litre with a Quad Turbo setup soon after I pickup up my bonus at year-end.

c32used

Now funny cause it should be better at the ring since its newer but you can't come on our side and diss the C32 either rather its too fast to keep you staying legal or the C55...C32 and C55 owners are both proud of the models they selected as should you...it completely understandable that you attack a post directed at you but keep in mind its the C32 your attacking not just the member who posted against you.....its bickering by a third party member thats get the ball rolling but under normal circumstances all C32 and C55 owner roam here without issues so if someone attacks your post then be the bigger man and PM him and don't post negative thing things about the C32 here which creates a worse situation. Keep in mind we live in the USA so places like Hockenheim don't exist here but I say if you need to prove anything just ask a member here that lives in your town to do a friendly challenge with you in an American circuit and test the abilities of your car with that of the C32 and while you are at it ask a C55 to join so we all can read about it but at the end its matters less to most or all us C32/55 owners so it'll die in the archive of MBWorld

c32used

Why are you letting this or any other member get to you? Let it die...before we get a bunch of members going.

c32used

Let it go.... the only one laughing is seeklasse

c32used

Don't waste your breath...Seeklasse is getting the laugh here.

c32used

Let it go Rolly...why give seeklasse a good show?

AMGSC

I only spent $7.5K plus $1.5K for Vadim's installation (including missing parts) so $9K total. My car makes over well over 434whp after the 8psi pulley was installed which only cost me another $250 installed. Besides, I happen to like a smaller car to go around a ring/track vs. a straight ahead family sedan. The money I wasted was on that POS HPS kit.

c32used

Yo espero que tu sepas espanol tambien...ay threads con esta informacion si asses un search....si necessitas ayuda pofavor de mandal un PM a mi y con gusto te ayudarre...(sorry guys but decided to use spanish in this post)

c32used

+1,000,000

AMGSC

If it's FUBAR, then when do you want to meet up for a friendly haul down the drag strip? I guess it's 6 cylinders vs. 6 cylinders

AMGSC

There never were any cooling issues with the Kleemann. Are you kidding. Kleemann TWIN-SCREW 2.6liter Autorotor IS THE BOMB of all aftermarket and even OEM superchargers. That's why I'm going to get my full $7.5K back when I sell it for my Quad-Turbo 7.3 upgrade to full race car.

hooleyboy

food for thought... I got a C55 with mods. I would say there are way more faster C32's on this forum then C55's. now that this tread is finished we should move on to the 400th sprintbooter thread

c32used

Thats getting the ball rolling the other way...

mb_c55amg_guy

It is my belief that it is he who has the most money and the desire...has the fastest car. it will work either way...a c32 with an unlimited budget will stomp a c55...and vice versa...my father always told me....son...remember...it doesnt matter if you think you are the best or the baddest guy on the block...there is always someone else out there who is better than you or more bad than you on another block. I assume it holds true in the automotive world...no matter how fast or how badass your car is...there is always someone out there who has a faster and more badass car.

ssg walker
us army

hooleyboy

I'm officially banning myself from posting in this thread advise others to do so to for the sanity on this forum

SeeKlasse

well put!

for the record, i love both cars, the c32 and c55. ive only seen 3 c55's on the street compared to dozens of c32's. i live in the northern atlanta suburbs. ive seen two different bugatti veyrons here, so its not as if people cant afford a c55. i remember driving a c32 when they came out, i was thoroughly impressed and still am.

i like the w209 nose on the c55, i think it looks very sleek!


sorry for impeding on your thread but we go through the same thing over in the c36/43 forum all the time. i was interested in putting the fire out, but it ended up being a flame war!

wawy

Attention Mr Vanos - please lock this thread

TemjinX2

i thought you were going to do internals to though right? oh well good luck on the 7.3L.