hooleyboy

when i first started on this forum it was filled with sponsors. now it only seems that LET and code3 are the only ones posting in this section of the forum. If seems then a new sponsor joins mbworld.org they come to offer ECU tuning rather than parts. Is it just me or has anyone else notices that? Lets call a spade a spade here. Anyone who is into tuning their Mercedes most likely has some software running on their car and likes it alot. LET was on the right track by doing something no other tuner was trying (that i know of) with their twin turbo project that fell though, Even though it fell thought that was the type of products guys like myself and other members were looking for. So regardless of the out come of that project LET was thinking outside the box and willing to try something differant so big for that.

Even simple mod that other AMG's have like the VRP python intake tubes whay cant c23/55 guy get some mods like that or an intake that does not suffer from heat soke? Yes VRP had an E55 airbox mod for C55's and personaly I like the design better than the Renntech box i have. as you dont have a huge intake box sitting ontop of a hot intake manifold. That leads me into why no one has offered a AMG supercharger retorfit mod that could be sold for less than other superchargers on the market? IF this was done they wouldnt have to worry about overhead as your local Mercedes could stock the kit for you (Im sure there would be lead time) We all know VRP gets the E55 intakes from Mercedes one way or another so.... why cant they get us a complete SC kit for say an E55? I would think the only R&D wold be with getting a good safe tune and maybe a larger pulley to keep boost levels safe and having a heat exchanger that fits. I'm sure its not that cut and dry but it seems doable.
I hate to say it but its not going to be long before out C32/55's are getting spanked all over the track. Anyone esle with me on this? That we need more aftermarket support. I spoke with STS turbos and it seems they would love to team up with someone to develope a remote turbo kit for Mercedes.

Just a note to all the sponsors..... We are all here waiting and willing to buy new products, just give us something we want... and not another ECU tune. That market is saturated enough.

Vadim @ FD

We are looking into producing a supercharger kit for C/CLK55s and W210 E55s to address further power addiction.

Besides CF air box, what else would you like to see?

hooleyboy

Vadim thanks for posting. I think some of your Python tubes would look real nice under my hood. When I was posting this I had a feeling VRP would come through with something. I was thinking os switching to the E55 airbox as the heat in Arizona and a huge airbox sitting on top of the hot intake manifold can not be good. Or even an SLR cam fit I would have no idea were to get cams for my C55 other than Kleemann. This is a long shot If some one could develope a program that can shut esp off (other than dyno mode) so Us C55er can do a brake stand at the track to heat the tires.

SilverBulletAMG

Bolt on turbo setup for the C32s!

hooleyboy

please put out a SC kit because we are about to get smoked my pontiac G8's

ohlord

questions.
"Hopefully soon: STS remote mount turbo kit.
going to shoot for 450-500whp."

won't happen out of a remote turbo

how are you going to get 560hp at the crank out of a stock block 55?
If you did get it,the 722.6 would not hold it,so are you prepared to spend the 5grand on a modified 722.6 and converter that will stand up to 560HP?

splinter

Doesn’t the 722.6xx hold up reasonably well behind the ‘55k engines?
They've been known to pump out some decent torque.

BuilderBill

Hey, what is wrong with the $5,000 for the NAG1?
Same price as the Chrysler guys pay us.
I believe Eddie (Southern Hotrod) and I are the only sponsors with NO "Mercedes tax"!
BuilderBill

Ps....we are developing other components for you guys....we DO test them 1st on the Chrysler crowd first though.

ohlord

won't take 560HP and over 600ft.lb. TQ.
without work.It will try,but it won't last long.Hand built 2200 stall converter alone would kill the trans after a short while,and what good would all that power be if you could not launch it hard?


NAG1 may do it but is the valve body modified and set up to run a c55 mid3's 0-60mph?

The other brand 722.6 that takes 800 ft lb. and has the modded valve body will take it.My Question is will his wallet

then there is the issue of sticking 335's into the rear wheel wells

TruTaing

In general Hooley: I dont think there are quite as many motivated spenders like you when it comes to modding and, thus, there are generally fewer (hardware) mods for these cars.

Less demand == less supply, right?

I'm sure if you're willing (to spend enough) enough there is a company out there that will turn your car into a badder monster.

ohlord

TRU
Did you ever solve the mystery code?Or the issue you had?

TruTaing

I havent seen it in a while. Been dealing w/ other issues - Posts to come. :x

TemjinX2

Well you have to look at it this way. Its a down automarket..therefore the aftermarket suffereing even worse. So a lot of companies especially smaller companies need to cut back on there marketing budgets. I'm sure the forums just charges a flat monthly fee to be a sponsor, so there no direct way to see if the sales you are getting are from the forum or just foot traffic to your website...short of doing group buys.

LETS been positioned as the go to tuner and code3 has been setup as the go to hardware guy for the c32's. VRP more for the e55's.

We all know this because people post about how great there products are and in turn other people buy them as well.

Its easy to monitor because people are actually posting about it. Not many people post about other sponsors products or do reviews on them.

This market is very small in comparison to the domestic or japanee tuner market, it seems there's not enough people to support a lot of different venders.

hooleyboy, if you want to talk turbos, give brandon at code3 a call. I had a very good conversation with him about turbos for the c32. The guy definately knows his stuff. I think you'll have better luck with someone that actually owns and tunes there mercedes.

STS might be a great company but pushrods engines are completely different from our amg engines.

I would try to avoid a remote mounting turbo is possible..spending close to $10k on something and then run the risk of ruining it by hit or running over something on the road...seems like a losing proposition to me...also traveling that kind of distance will increase your turbo lag as well.

hooleyboy

wow I go to the bar and come back to tons of posts really wasnt thinking i would get this many. Now to address some of the posts. 450whp is not alot to ask out of forced induction no matter what way its done. I spoke with STS and they are confident it can be done on my car. In fact they said they are 100% sure it could be done. ProDyno a local shop here in Ariozna feels it can be done safely as well. On the other had My tuning shop of choice, Dyno-Comp, feels its not the best way to go and would rather build me a custom kit of just SC my C55. RENNtech offers transmission upgrades that would handle tha kind of power with no problem.. Really though, am I going to turbo my C55? I dont know? I would like to if it could be done. Im most likely going to SC my car, but not before i explore my options first.

To say 450-500whp wont happen out of a remote turbo set up is flat out wrong.. There are lots of cars out there that are putting down those type of numbers. Can that happen out of a Mercedes? IDK? But if it did work, why would 100 or so whp be aiming to high?

But back on topic.. This is a chance to tell the sponsors on this site what we would like to see for our cars other than 15 companies offering ECU tunes.

TemjinX2

any thing is possible with turbo..point is can the block take that much power stock? if not your going to be spending another $5-8k building the block.

wawy

I actually just ordered the E55 Airboxes from VRP. Looking forward to receiving them!

hooleyboy

Let us know how it works for you.

Newzchspy

Speak for yourself; Its still a high 13, low 14 car Hooley!! Ran one the other day in the ML 55 and ran right along with it and my ML is a low 14 sec truck.

hooleyboy

Wait till you run into a TTG8 or and SCG8 They are cheep to mod.