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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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to check if u have header problems, spray like windex on the pipes.. if u see bubbles then u have an exhaust leak
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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Prolly want to get that sealed sooner than later. Your AF mixture is most likely all over the place. Not to mention god only knows what kind of stuff you're sucking through the SC bypassing the filters.
lol i know its dumb.....I should emphasize that it is EXTREMELY slight the opening. i can even feel it with my finger. maybe a mm or two underneath. i havent had time to work on the car with my mcat coming up next friday. but yah, afterwards, i'll fix that and change my oil in case i am sucking in nasty stuff. needswings oil-catchcan should help clean that stuff up too.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Frank, do you have aftermarket headers? or high flow cats?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Frank, do you have aftermarket headers? or high flow cats?
i have the old evosport equal length header. just the stock cats.

however even when the header was leaking some times ago it didn't make the noise like now after replacing the cam. also when the shop was working on the car they checked the cats as will and all are good. The noise only came after i got the car back btw.

most likely i'll switch to the LET header at the end of this month when my buddy comes back from taiwan.

i'll see if i can record a video when i find my regular digital cam.

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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:13 PM
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also when I'm going down hill where it usually would pick up speed if i'm in 5th gear. now it doesn't sort of feels like whenever I let off the throttle power is instantly gone and the car slows down. on that long down hill without touching the throttle the car would not pick up speed faster than 45mph where from momentum it would usually gone up to around 60mph by the time the road levels.

and here is a sound recording i just made driving around the block around my house. I've noted where you can hear the whistle noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvqxcK79NUY
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:18 PM
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weird. that is definitely not the sound i was describing from having a loose intake splitter on there. idk what that is and have never heard it. do you still hear it with the windows up?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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weird. that is definitely not the sound i was describing from having a loose intake splitter on there. idk what that is and have never heard it. do you still hear it with the windows up?
with the windows up the noise comes from under the tranny tunnel towards the front. and only appear north of 4k rpm.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Hard to tell, Frank. Of course, you know I’m about half deaf anyway.

Does it sound like that above 4000 rpm regardless of throttle position – or only when you’re on it? Check your WOT boost to compare with its pre-repair levels. Any other data logging intel to share would be helpful. Seems almost like it’s a (pressurized) intake leak.

Exhaust leaks tend to be farty and are more likely to occur throughout the rev/load range. Just a WAG. :nix:
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by splinter
Hard to tell, Frank. Of course, you know I’m about half deaf anyway.

Does it sound like that above 4000 rpm regardless of throttle position – or only when you’re on it? Check your WOT boost to compare with its pre-repair levels. Any other data logging intel to share would be helpful. Seems almost like it’s a (pressurized) intake leak.

Exhaust leaks tend to be farty and are more likely to occur throughout the rev/load range. Just a WAG.
ooo......intake leak.....hmmm

Frank, didnt you have work recently done on your car? did it require the removal of the s/c or intake manifolds? maybe new gaskets werent used or the incorrect gaskets?

are you running stock boost?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:37 PM
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Wow, that's interesting sounding. Doesn't sound like SC whine, doesn't sound anything like a header leak or bad exhaust leak. As splinter noted, exhaust/header leaks sound more "farty".haha My header leak sure did.
I still say check your entire intake tract.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 06:13 AM
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ooo......intake leak.....hmmm

Frank, didnt you have work recently done on your car? did it require the removal of the s/c or intake manifolds? maybe new gaskets werent used or the incorrect gaskets?

are you running stock boost?
evosport pulley kit. 178mm.

it whistle only when i'm on the throttle.

i checked the driver side...there's nothing in the airbox clogging...nor anything in the y-splitter.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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i checked the driver side...there's nothing in the airbox clogging...nor anything in the y-splitter.
And there are no gaps/leaks anywhere along the intake? Something isn't sealed. Since you just had all that work done, will the mechanic that did the work take a look at it for free? Seems only fair if it was fine (in that regard) before taking it in for repairs.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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i'd say if you have a gauge, you could monitor your boost and see if you have a boost leak from a bad gasket or something. but i agree with trevor. the mechanic that worked on it should take a look at it for free since he just did all that work and you have another problem
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Sounds like a boost leak my friend. Pop the hood and lean on the plenums and move them around to see if it changes pitch.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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had it checked out again by my shop. no boost leak. header still has the old issue which doesn't cause the sound. YOU GUYS WOULD NOT BELIEVE what is actually causing the sound........


it is my driver side exhaust tips. i'm guessing because of the angle and exhaust velocity it somehow made the driver side tips a giant whistle. now i gotta have that redone.

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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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hahahaha...
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Frank, do you have aftermarket tips on or something?
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Frank, do you have aftermarket tips on or something?
yea, I chopped off the carlsson tips and custom the titanium tips.

the left side because of the angle or something decided to start to whistle when the exhaust flow reach certain level.

the > kink might be the issue. I'm gonna have it opened up tomorrow.

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Old Aug 15, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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The tips look sweet! Amazing the tips were the issue. So much for sticking your head under the hood.lol You couldn't tell it was coming from the back? Glad you got it figured out at least.
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The tips look sweet! Amazing the tips were the issue. So much for sticking your head under the hood.lol You couldn't tell it was coming from the back? Glad you got it figured out at least.
thing is it doesn't make any sound while parked, so nothing to hear from.

we're only able to tell revving that thing to 4k rpm and hold it there for couple sec and then I was standing behind the car. sound definitely comes from the tips.
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How's the car otherwise? Replacing the cam took care of the misfire in #4?
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Frank,
How's the car otherwise? Replacing the cam took care of the misfire in #4?
yea, check out my C32 thread. the exhaust valve lobe was out of position.


the exhaust tip noise is fixed today.

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