Just wanted to share with you my latest dyno
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As far as I know, Shrick will give you very little gain overstock shafts. Not worth the price tag of more than $2500.. However,there is company in Germany called Dbilas , they do have many types of high performance camshafts. I do not speak German, but here is a link for EBay seller in Germany who’s selling camshafts with valve springs for M113. If anyone can translate it or may have any information regarding these shafts please chim in.
http://cgi.ebay.de/dbilas-Nockenwell...item588504a260
http://cgi.ebay.de/dbilas-Nockenwell...item588504a260
Anyone knows how much does the Renntech Airbox cost ?
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Hello. Alroumi, If possible could we see a Dyno sheet with an RPM plot, instead of the wheel speed. If I remember right I was told by Schrick , there was no more M-113 & M-112 off the shelf cams. Somebody would have to pony up for 35 sets . If you do a search, you will read that , the Schrick off the shelf Grind was designed for the 500 engine & after some testing ,it was found that it made no increase in Hp on 5.5 AMG N/A or Komp engines . The hp falls of at 5750 rpms, with stock OEM camsI've buzzed the motor to 6200 many times, on stock AMG Double valve springs & Retainers with no valve float, Currently I've buzzed my motor on the dyno up to 6450 rpm with stock AMG springs & Titanium retainers, and have bounced the tach off of 6600 rpm on the street. Buy the Kleemann cams , they are a Drop in & go . If you think you want a set of cams with a little more aggressive grind ,Do the search in the W-211 section, Lots of good reading. Your car & engine has the good valve springs . Cheers _PTEngineering
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Thank you PTE for the comments, I appreciate it. I am eying on the Kleemann camshafts then.
Any upgraded valve springs I can acquire through the aftermarket ?
Any upgraded valve springs I can acquire through the aftermarket ?
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Got a reply back,
Yes, Dbilas do offer a set of cams for this M113 application.
260degree inlet, 268 degree exhaust.
The price of this set is £1660 for an outright buy, brand new billet cams.
So how does it differ to the Kleemann application ?
Yes, Dbilas do offer a set of cams for this M113 application.
260degree inlet, 268 degree exhaust.
The price of this set is £1660 for an outright buy, brand new billet cams.
So how does it differ to the Kleemann application ?
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Stock springs are very good. 90 psi on the seat & 240 psi at .481 lift. If you need or want Titanium Spring retainers , I stock them , they are priced very competitively close to Ford stuff, No Mercedes luxo tax (LOL) $355.00 for a set of 24. As far as those Dbilas cams, they are very mild so to say. Did they give you a max lobe lift . Stock AMG range from as high as .305 in & . 288 ex . Don't let the low price sway you. Many aftermarket cams, Have press on lobes, They will move, if the motor get hot!! Mercedes tried it once, Then went back to a Grey cast iron cold chilled one piece cam
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Did they tell you the expected HP gains?
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Stock springs are very good. 90 psi on the seat & 240 psi at .481 lift. If you need or want Titanium Spring retainers , I stock them , they are priced very competitively close to Ford stuff, No Mercedes luxo tax (LOL) $355.00 for a set of 24. As far as those Dbilas cams, they are very mild so to say. Did they give you a max lobe lift . Stock AMG range from as high as .305 in & . 288 ex . Don't let the low price sway you. Many aftermarket cams, Have press on lobes, They will move, if the motor get hot!! Mercedes tried it once, Then went back to a Grey cast iron cold chilled one piece cam
Cheers _PTEngineering
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Stock springs are very good. 90 psi on the seat & 240 psi at .481 lift. If you need or want Titanium Spring retainers , I stock them , they are priced very competitively close to Ford stuff, No Mercedes luxo tax (LOL) $355.00 for a set of 24. As far as those Dbilas cams, they are very mild so to say. Did they give you a max lobe lift . Stock AMG range from as high as .305 in & . 288 ex . Don't let the low price sway you. Many aftermarket cams, Have press on lobes, They will move, if the motor get hot!! Mercedes tried it once, Then went back to a Grey cast iron cold chilled one piece cam
Cheers _PTEngineering
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Part No.: 12.054.001
Application: Road
Spring :Standard
Duration:260/268
Peak timing: 114
Valve lift:10,8
Lift at TDC : 0,5/1,0
Valve timing IO/IC - EO/EC : 16/64 - 68/20
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"Our cams are made for supercharged engine's- I've tested them on SLK55's and C55's which were normally aspirated, and I saw zero HP improvements, so I'd say cams are not worth doing unless you put a supercharger on the car, in which case, they'll pick up another 15-20 HP. "
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I have sent an Email to Cory at Kleemann here is what he replied regarding Kleemann Cams:
"Our cams are made for supercharged engine's- I've tested them on SLK55's and C55's which were normally aspirated, and I saw zero HP improvements, so I'd say cams are not worth doing unless you put a supercharger on the car, in which case, they'll pick up another 15-20 HP. "
"Our cams are made for supercharged engine's- I've tested them on SLK55's and C55's which were normally aspirated, and I saw zero HP improvements, so I'd say cams are not worth doing unless you put a supercharger on the car, in which case, they'll pick up another 15-20 HP. "
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Stock springs are very good. 90 psi on the seat & 240 psi at .481 lift. If you need or want Titanium Spring retainers , I stock them , they are priced very competitively close to Ford stuff, No Mercedes luxo tax (LOL) $355.00 for a set of 24. As far as those Dbilas cams, they are very mild so to say. Did they give you a max lobe lift . Stock AMG range from as high as .305 in & . 288 ex . Don't let the low price sway you. Many aftermarket cams, Have press on lobes, They will move, if the motor get hot!! Mercedes tried it once, Then went back to a Grey cast iron cold chilled one piece cam
Cheers _PTEngineering
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I have sent an Email to Cory at Kleemann here is what he replied regarding Kleemann Cams:
"Our cams are made for supercharged engine's- I've tested them on SLK55's and C55's which were normally aspirated, and I saw zero HP improvements, so I'd say cams are not worth doing unless you put a supercharger on the car, in which case, they'll pick up another 15-20 HP. "
"Our cams are made for supercharged engine's- I've tested them on SLK55's and C55's which were normally aspirated, and I saw zero HP improvements, so I'd say cams are not worth doing unless you put a supercharger on the car, in which case, they'll pick up another 15-20 HP. "
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Please view the specs in black .They are Schrick off the shelf. They are very close to the dbilas specs. Not as much lift as Kleemann. Take Cory's advice, He is a wealth of Knowledge. I do not have or sell an aftermarket valve spring set. The Stock AMG springs seem to work just fine. Cheers _PTEngineering
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Please view the specs in black .They are Schrick off the shelf. They are very close to the dbilas specs. Not as much lift as Telemann. Take Cory's advice, He is a wealth of Knowledge. I do not have or sell an aftermarket valve spring set. The Stock AMG springs seem to work just fine. Cheers _PTEngineering
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They are the most aggressive cams to date!
The Renntech Airbox yes, but I would also install headers to acheive the full benefits cams have to offer.
