The M 157 TT 5.5 is HERE!!!
03-01-2010, 05:37 PM
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The M 157 TT 5.5 is HERE!!!
Affalterbach – AMG is writing another chapter in its "AMG Performance
2015" drive system strategy: a completely newly developed AMG 5.5-litre
V8 biturbo engine with a peak output of up to 420 kW (544 to 571 hp) and
maximum torque of up to 900 newton metres will enter the lineup in
summer 2010. The new eight-cylinder unit known internally as the M 157
impresses with a wealth of technological highlights such as direct petrol
injection with spray-guided combustion and twin turbochargers.
Plus, it has 10-15 % more HP and Torque than the 6.3 litre and gets 25% better gas mileage?? Direct injected, twin turbo? Wonder if this is going in the C5.5 TT??? Inquiring minds want to know???
2015" drive system strategy: a completely newly developed AMG 5.5-litre
V8 biturbo engine with a peak output of up to 420 kW (544 to 571 hp) and
maximum torque of up to 900 newton metres will enter the lineup in
summer 2010. The new eight-cylinder unit known internally as the M 157
impresses with a wealth of technological highlights such as direct petrol
injection with spray-guided combustion and twin turbochargers.
Plus, it has 10-15 % more HP and Torque than the 6.3 litre and gets 25% better gas mileage?? Direct injected, twin turbo? Wonder if this is going in the C5.5 TT??? Inquiring minds want to know???
03-01-2010, 05:47 PM
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Man, you just beat me to it!! I was just gonna suggest that Hooleyboy throw this into his beast....
Affalterbach – AMG is writing another chapter in its "AMG Performance
2015" drive system strategy: a completely newly developed AMG 5.5-litre
V8 biturbo engine with a peak output of up to 420 kW (544 to 571 hp) and
maximum torque of up to 900 newton metres will enter the lineup in
summer 2010. The new eight-cylinder unit known internally as the M 157
impresses with a wealth of technological highlights such as direct petrol
injection with spray-guided combustion and twin turbochargers.
This innovative, autonomously developed eight-cylinder power unit
from Affalterbach sets new standards in terms of fuel consumption and
exemplary efficiency: the new S 63 AMG, in which the V8 biturbo will have
its market debut, consumes only 10.5 litres per 100 kilometres (NEDC
combined consumption, provisional figure). This represents a saving of
25 percent compared to the current S63 AMG. An intelligently designed
power transfer plays a major part in this: the unique AMG SPEEDSHIFT
MCT 7-speed sports transmission combines dynamism with economy, and
includes a new start/stop function in the "Controlled Efficiency" driving
mode. The new engine/transmission combination is the epitome of
exclusivity, sophistication, high performance and economy.
The S 63 AMG showcar is a homage to the impressive history of powerful AMG
V8 engines: visually this high-performance saloon resembles the spectacular
300 SEL 6.8 AMG, the racing car that won a class victory and second place in the
overall ranking for AMG at the 24-hour race in Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium) in
1971 – and made the company world-famous overnight.
"AMG Performance 2015" as the continuation of a success story
Mercedes-AMG is continuing this impressive story with its "AMG Performance
2015" strategy, and meeting its promise to continuously reduce both the fuel
consumption and emissions of new models with the new engine/transmission
combination – while reaching new heights with the central brand value of
"performance".
The new AMG 5.5-litre V8 biturbo engine will play a major part in the Mercedes-
AMG model strategy over the next few years. The unique AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT
7-speed sports transmission will also guarantee a thrilling yet economical power
transfer in future AMG high-performance cars. The new engine/transmission
combination is another milestone in the success story of Mercedes-AMG, which
began in 1967. Another highlight in the company's more than 40-year history
it undoubtedly the SLS AMG: this gull-wing model due to be launched on
27 March 2010 is the first automobile to be completely independently developed
by Mercedes-AMG. It means that as the performance brand within Mercedes-Benz
Cars, AMG is not only fielding a masterpiece but also demonstrating development
expertise at the highest level.
Direct petrol injection with spray-guided combustion and twin
turbocharging
Whilst the AMG 6.3 litre V8 naturally aspirated engine has a displacement of
6208 cc the new AMG 5.5-litre V8 biturbo unit makes do with 5461 cc. The use of
direct injection technology results in a reduction of exactly 747 cubic centimetres
and increases efficiency. For the first time, AMG is also utilising the advantages
of direct petrol injection with spray-guided combustion and piezo-electric injectors:
thanks to its higher thermodynamic efficiency, this technology makes more
efficient use of fuel and leads to lower exhaust emissions. AMG combines this
spray-guided combustion with twin turbochargers. Other highlights include a
crankcase wholly of aluminium, four-valve technology with adjustable camshafts,
an air/water intercooler, generator management and a start/stop function as
standard.
This high-tech package leads to a high output and torque yield, together with
fuel consumption figures that are unrivalled in the competitive lineup. The AMG
5.5-litre V8 biturbo engine develops a peak output of 400 kW (544 hp) and maximum
torque of 800 newton metres. In conjunction with the AMG Performance
package these figures are increased to 420 kW (571 hp) and 900 newton metres.
A look at the performance diagrams shows that no other engine in this output
class achieves the figures delivered by the new AMG biturbo. The major difference
between the two performance classes is an increase in the maximum charge
pressure from 1.0 to 1.3 bar.
Quantum leap: fuel consumption reduced by 25 percent
With a provisional NEDC fuel consumption of 10.5 litres per 100 kilometres, the
new S 63 AMG is 3.9 litres more economical than the preceding model powered
by the naturally aspirated AMG 6.3-litre V8 – despite an increase in output by
14 kW (19 hp) resp. 34 kW (46 hp) and in torque by 170 and 270 newton metres.
Engine specialists consider this achieved fuel saving of more than 25 percent to
be nothing less than a quantum leap. CO2 emissions have likewise been significantly
reduced: at 246 grams per kilometre, the figure is 28.5 percent lower than
for the previous model.
With figures like these, the new S 63 AMG is not only considerably better than all
its competitors, but also more fuel-efficient than much less powerful cars in this
segment. Taking into account its enormous performance and torque figures the
new AMG 5.5 litre V8 biturbo engine is in parts twice as efficient as many midsegment
or compact-class diesel engines.
At the same time the S 63 AMG delivers superior performance at sports car level:
the high-performance saloon accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds,
and has an electronically limited top speed of 250 km/h. The 100 km/h mark is
reached in just 4.4 seconds with the AMG Performance package, with the top
speed increased to an electronically limited 300 km/h.
Affalterbach – AMG is writing another chapter in its "AMG Performance
2015" drive system strategy: a completely newly developed AMG 5.5-litre
V8 biturbo engine with a peak output of up to 420 kW (544 to 571 hp) and
maximum torque of up to 900 newton metres will enter the lineup in
summer 2010. The new eight-cylinder unit known internally as the M 157
impresses with a wealth of technological highlights such as direct petrol
injection with spray-guided combustion and twin turbochargers.
This innovative, autonomously developed eight-cylinder power unit
from Affalterbach sets new standards in terms of fuel consumption and
exemplary efficiency: the new S 63 AMG, in which the V8 biturbo will have
its market debut, consumes only 10.5 litres per 100 kilometres (NEDC
combined consumption, provisional figure). This represents a saving of
25 percent compared to the current S63 AMG. An intelligently designed
power transfer plays a major part in this: the unique AMG SPEEDSHIFT
MCT 7-speed sports transmission combines dynamism with economy, and
includes a new start/stop function in the "Controlled Efficiency" driving
mode. The new engine/transmission combination is the epitome of
exclusivity, sophistication, high performance and economy.
The S 63 AMG showcar is a homage to the impressive history of powerful AMG
V8 engines: visually this high-performance saloon resembles the spectacular
300 SEL 6.8 AMG, the racing car that won a class victory and second place in the
overall ranking for AMG at the 24-hour race in Spa-Francorchamps (Belgium) in
1971 – and made the company world-famous overnight.
"AMG Performance 2015" as the continuation of a success story
Mercedes-AMG is continuing this impressive story with its "AMG Performance
2015" strategy, and meeting its promise to continuously reduce both the fuel
consumption and emissions of new models with the new engine/transmission
combination – while reaching new heights with the central brand value of
"performance".
The new AMG 5.5-litre V8 biturbo engine will play a major part in the Mercedes-
AMG model strategy over the next few years. The unique AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT
7-speed sports transmission will also guarantee a thrilling yet economical power
transfer in future AMG high-performance cars. The new engine/transmission
combination is another milestone in the success story of Mercedes-AMG, which
began in 1967. Another highlight in the company's more than 40-year history
it undoubtedly the SLS AMG: this gull-wing model due to be launched on
27 March 2010 is the first automobile to be completely independently developed
by Mercedes-AMG. It means that as the performance brand within Mercedes-Benz
Cars, AMG is not only fielding a masterpiece but also demonstrating development
expertise at the highest level.
Direct petrol injection with spray-guided combustion and twin
turbocharging
Whilst the AMG 6.3 litre V8 naturally aspirated engine has a displacement of
6208 cc the new AMG 5.5-litre V8 biturbo unit makes do with 5461 cc. The use of
direct injection technology results in a reduction of exactly 747 cubic centimetres
and increases efficiency. For the first time, AMG is also utilising the advantages
of direct petrol injection with spray-guided combustion and piezo-electric injectors:
thanks to its higher thermodynamic efficiency, this technology makes more
efficient use of fuel and leads to lower exhaust emissions. AMG combines this
spray-guided combustion with twin turbochargers. Other highlights include a
crankcase wholly of aluminium, four-valve technology with adjustable camshafts,
an air/water intercooler, generator management and a start/stop function as
standard.
This high-tech package leads to a high output and torque yield, together with
fuel consumption figures that are unrivalled in the competitive lineup. The AMG
5.5-litre V8 biturbo engine develops a peak output of 400 kW (544 hp) and maximum
torque of 800 newton metres. In conjunction with the AMG Performance
package these figures are increased to 420 kW (571 hp) and 900 newton metres.
A look at the performance diagrams shows that no other engine in this output
class achieves the figures delivered by the new AMG biturbo. The major difference
between the two performance classes is an increase in the maximum charge
pressure from 1.0 to 1.3 bar.
Quantum leap: fuel consumption reduced by 25 percent
With a provisional NEDC fuel consumption of 10.5 litres per 100 kilometres, the
new S 63 AMG is 3.9 litres more economical than the preceding model powered
by the naturally aspirated AMG 6.3-litre V8 – despite an increase in output by
14 kW (19 hp) resp. 34 kW (46 hp) and in torque by 170 and 270 newton metres.
Engine specialists consider this achieved fuel saving of more than 25 percent to
be nothing less than a quantum leap. CO2 emissions have likewise been significantly
reduced: at 246 grams per kilometre, the figure is 28.5 percent lower than
for the previous model.
With figures like these, the new S 63 AMG is not only considerably better than all
its competitors, but also more fuel-efficient than much less powerful cars in this
segment. Taking into account its enormous performance and torque figures the
new AMG 5.5 litre V8 biturbo engine is in parts twice as efficient as many midsegment
or compact-class diesel engines.
At the same time the S 63 AMG delivers superior performance at sports car level:
the high-performance saloon accelerates from zero to 100 km/h in 4.5 seconds,
and has an electronically limited top speed of 250 km/h. The 100 km/h mark is
reached in just 4.4 seconds with the AMG Performance package, with the top
speed increased to an electronically limited 300 km/h.
03-01-2010, 06:00 PM
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What to Do? What to DO??
[QUOTE=Gramma_Benz;3963595]Man, you just beat me to it!! I was just gonna suggest that Hooleyboy throw this into his beast....
+1, I am wondering if I should wait and get a C5.5 TT DI (?? 2011 model perhaps??) or pull the trigger on a 2010 C63 with the P31 and Carbon Fiber with no leather???
+1, I am wondering if I should wait and get a C5.5 TT DI (?? 2011 model perhaps??) or pull the trigger on a 2010 C63 with the P31 and Carbon Fiber with no leather???
03-01-2010, 06:09 PM
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[QUOTE=Newzchspy;3963626][QUOTE=Gramma_Benz;3963595]Man, you just beat me to it!! I was just gonna suggest that Hooleyboy throw this into his beast....
BUT WAIT....................There's more on the M 157:
Exciting power delivery, characteristic sound
These on-paper figures raise high expectations which the 400 kW (544 hp)
AMG 5.5-litre V8 biturbo certainly meets. The flat torque curve ensures enormous
pulling power in all speed ranges: 670 newton metres are already available at
1500 rpm, and the maximum torque of 800 newton metres is delivered just
500 rpm later, remaining constant to 4500 rpm. Even more effortless performance
is ensured by the engine variant with the AMG Performance package, which has
a peak output of 420 kW (571 hp). In this case the eight-cylinder delivers
875 newton metres of torque at just 2000 rpm, with a constant 900 newton
metres available between 2500 and 3750 rpm.
** So, we're going to get a P30 or P31 of the 5.5 TT DI as well!! Almost 600 HP out of a 5.5 litre!! Woo hoo, can you say record setting cars??? Reminds me of the "Sport Chrono " on the 911 TTs!!
BUT WAIT....................There's more on the M 157:
Exciting power delivery, characteristic sound
These on-paper figures raise high expectations which the 400 kW (544 hp)
AMG 5.5-litre V8 biturbo certainly meets. The flat torque curve ensures enormous
pulling power in all speed ranges: 670 newton metres are already available at
1500 rpm, and the maximum torque of 800 newton metres is delivered just
500 rpm later, remaining constant to 4500 rpm. Even more effortless performance
is ensured by the engine variant with the AMG Performance package, which has
a peak output of 420 kW (571 hp). In this case the eight-cylinder delivers
875 newton metres of torque at just 2000 rpm, with a constant 900 newton
metres available between 2500 and 3750 rpm.
** So, we're going to get a P30 or P31 of the 5.5 TT DI as well!! Almost 600 HP out of a 5.5 litre!! Woo hoo, can you say record setting cars??? Reminds me of the "Sport Chrono " on the 911 TTs!!
03-01-2010, 08:04 PM
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Your screen name just got a lot more desireable 'round here. 
Realistically though, it sounds like it could be awhile (if ever) that we see this engine in a C-AMG... since it's starting in the flagship models and gradually working it's way down. Not to mention the rumors of a smaller, 4.6TT variant, that might propel the smaller models eventually - not this 5.5TT beast. Weird that they're keeping the "S63" model name... wonder if they'll rethink that.
Realistically though, it sounds like it could be awhile (if ever) that we see this engine in a C-AMG... since it's starting in the flagship models and gradually working it's way down. Not to mention the rumors of a smaller, 4.6TT variant, that might propel the smaller models eventually - not this 5.5TT beast. Weird that they're keeping the "S63" model name... wonder if they'll rethink that.
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03-01-2010, 09:46 PM
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Your screen name just got a lot more desireable 'round here.
Realistically though, it sounds like it could be awhile (if ever) that we see this engine in a C-AMG... since it's starting in the flagship models and gradually working it's way down. Not to mention the rumors of a smaller, 4.6TT variant, that might propel the smaller models eventually - not this 5.5TT beast. Weird that they're keeping the "S63" model name... wonder if they'll rethink that.
Realistically though, it sounds like it could be awhile (if ever) that we see this engine in a C-AMG... since it's starting in the flagship models and gradually working it's way down. Not to mention the rumors of a smaller, 4.6TT variant, that might propel the smaller models eventually - not this 5.5TT beast. Weird that they're keeping the "S63" model name... wonder if they'll rethink that.
03-01-2010, 09:53 PM
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Have to wait and see if the V8TT is put in the C. I'm definately getting one if it does. I may skip the 63 all together.
Who here will figure out how to install the TT on our existing 55 engines (if its even possible)?
Who here will figure out how to install the TT on our existing 55 engines (if its even possible)?
03-02-2010, 12:38 AM
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I knew it was coming!
AMG wasn't about to let the new M5 roam around as the fastest production sedan without some competition!
*Edit: 0-60 in 4.4 lol... hopefully they put this in an E or a C Class asap, I just don't see the point of drowning that motor in a boat like The S class
AMG wasn't about to let the new M5 roam around as the fastest production sedan without some competition!
*Edit: 0-60 in 4.4 lol... hopefully they put this in an E or a C Class asap, I just don't see the point of drowning that motor in a boat like The S class
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03-02-2010, 04:31 AM
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I knew it was coming!
AMG wasn't about to let the new M5 roam around as the fastest production sedan without some competition!
*Edit: 0-60 in 4.4 lol... hopefully they put this in an E or a C Class asap, I just don't see the point of drowning that motor in a boat like The S class
AMG wasn't about to let the new M5 roam around as the fastest production sedan without some competition!
*Edit: 0-60 in 4.4 lol... hopefully they put this in an E or a C Class asap, I just don't see the point of drowning that motor in a boat like The S class
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2002 C32 AMG, 2013 GLK 350/4, 2015 E63S AMG Wagon
If you follow the pattern of other C class AMG models like W202 based C36 and C43 and W203 based C32 and C55, then the 2011 C AMG should have the new TT engine. I hope.
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03 g35 coupe...........02 c32 Sold
I'm sure the next amg c series will be turbo. The rumor is that the next M3 will be a twin turbo I6 or a smaller displacement twin v8 and the lower 3 series will be single turbo.
I remember Zetche said last yr, the next gen C-class will be offered with a smaller displacement turbos. So i'm sure we'll see a 335i c-class equal as well.
I remember Zetche said last yr, the next gen C-class will be offered with a smaller displacement turbos. So i'm sure we'll see a 335i c-class equal as well.
