Just picked up an e90 M3, thinking of trading in the C55.
In a bind, man I love that C55, but I found a great deal on a used M3 and jumped on it. I have till Sat to return it, no questions asked. Still in the decision process......:confused: Help!
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what's the year and mileage on the M3? Sedan or Coupe?
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Grats, E90 M3 is a fantastic car, personally I wouldn't stay with the C55 as well unless I had piles of cash laying around.
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Originally Posted by riverace
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Grats, E90 M3 is a fantastic car, personally I wouldn't stay with the C55 as well unless I had piles of cash laying around.
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Originally Posted by BK63amg
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what's the year and mileage on the M3? Sedan or Coupe?
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Originally Posted by riverace
(Post 4575629)
Grats, E90 M3 is a fantastic car, personally I wouldn't stay with the C55 as well unless I had piles of cash laying around.
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Originally Posted by Mark633CSi
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I work at one of the local BMW dealers here in town. The E90 M3 is a nice car. It's much meaner looking than the E92. I think you may miss the torque of the C55 however. If you keep it though, congrats!
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Originally Posted by e1000
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Originally Posted by Scoop55
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ERIC MY BRUTHA!!! Good to see you're still around. You still pimpin that C350?
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Originally Posted by Scoop55
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'08, dark gray sedan, only 15K miles.
I am not sure if the newer DCT is better than the old SMG. |
Originally Posted by xxaarraa
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What kind of tranny? If its the 6 speed, the throws are rather long and you will get tired of constant shifting because of the low torque.
I am not sure if the newer DCT is better than the old SMG. |
Isn't the E90 M3 supposed to be able to do 60mph in 3.9s? Does the lower torque still make it feel slower even if it's almost 1second faster than the C55?
I know it's a high revving engine and stuff, but I find it weird that it doesn't feel as fast even if it's faster. |
Originally Posted by Apox
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Isn't the E90 M3 supposed to be able to do 60mph in 3.9s? Does the lower torque still make it feel slower even if it's almost 1second faster than the C55?
I know it's a high revving engine and stuff, but I find it weird that it doesn't feel as fast even if it's faster. Anyone who tells you a car has low torque and is therefore slow, is an idiot. |
Originally Posted by e1000
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E9x M3's get to 60 in about 4.2s.
Anyone who tells you a car has low torque and is therefore slow, is an idiot. In everyday life, any car that is low on torque will be slow. On a track is where the low torque ceases to be relevant because you have room to wind it up. Period. End of story. Any M3 owner who claims otherwise is an idiot, or fanboi. |
Originally Posted by xxaarraa
(Post 4575834)
The 4.2 0-60 is for the track where you can max out every gear and hit every single shift point. In everyday life between lights, you will be lucky to get anywhere close to that number in an M3. In a C55 or any car of that type, you can consistenly hit the published 0-60 number, all you have to do is step on it. You can magazine race all you want, but that's the bottom line.
In everyday life, any car that is low on torque will be slow. On a track is where the low torque ceases to be relevant because you have room to wind it up. Period. End of story. Any M3 owner who claims otherwise is an idiot, or fanboi. I'm willing to bet with my DCT I'll be able to consistently be pretty close to that number day in and day out. All I have to do is step on it too. It doesn't sound like you understand gearing very well. |
He might mean when you're throwing your own gears...I have no doubt DCT cars can achieve their published 0-60 times in the real world without too much difficulty at all.
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Originally Posted by e1000
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So are you saying the C55 can hit published 0-60 times without maxing out every gear?
I'm willing to bet with my DCT I'll be able to consistently be pretty close to that number day in and day out. All I have to do is step on it too. It doesn't sound like you understand gearing very well. The C55 will hit published numbers consistently and with minimum fuss because it makes 370 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm. M3 makes peak torque (80 ft-lbs less) at what 5k? Where do you make your peak HP? 8k? C55 makes it at 5k. Fanbois who read magazines will only look at the HP number, without any understanding of where the power is delivered in the rev band. In the real world, you don't have room to let the RPMs climb. Any car that makes power at astronomical revs will be slower than cars that make power at low down in the band. Fact. Torque is more important in real life. Fact. I adore the M3, don't get me wrong. Let's not make this into an M3 versus AMG argument either. |
Originally Posted by xxaarraa
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Dude, I'm an ex-M3 owner, so I understand it quite well. The problem seems to be that you don't understand RPMs very well.
The C55 will hit published numbers consistently and with minimum fuss because it makes 370 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm. M3 makes peak torque (80 ft-lbs less) at what 5k? Where do you make your peak HP? 8k? C55 makes it at 5k. Fanbois who read magazines will only look at the HP number, without any understanding of where the power is delivered in the rev band. In the real world, you don't have room to let the RPMs climb. Any car that makes power at astronomical revs will be slower than cars that make power at low down in the band. Fact. Torque is more important in real life. Fact. I adore the M3, don't get me wrong. Let's not make this into an M3 versus AMG argument either. Remember folks, torque is multiplied through the gearbox and drivetrain while HP is NOT. |
Originally Posted by e1000
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Funny you posted this thread, I just got a E92 M3 back in July! BTW, I also moved to Irvine, we should meet up for a beer, I'd be willing to make the trip down to SD.
I love the white btw in the E9x with the black trim around the rearview mirrors, etc, it would have been my second choice next to black on black on black (which is the fastest color combo you know :rolleyes:) |
Originally Posted by xxaarraa
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What kind of tranny? If its the 6 speed, the throws are rather long and you will get tired of constant shifting because of the low torque.
I am not sure if the newer DCT is better than the old SMG. You got that right. I haven't driven a manual since 2001, and with this one, you really have to know how to do it right, which I totally suck at right now.... DCT would have been my choice. I found another used '08 w/ DCT here, but it had 50K miles!! |
Originally Posted by Scoop55
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Wow, congrats!! how do you like your M3? What year is it. This is the first used car I've ever purchased, so I'm a little cautious as to how it was driven.
I love the white btw in the E9x with the black trim around the rearview mirrors, etc, it would have been my second choice next to black on black on black (which is the fastest color combo you know :rolleyes:) |
Originally Posted by e1000
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I love my DCT. It's nothing short of incredible.
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Originally Posted by e1000
(Post 4575807)
E9x M3's get to 60 in about 4.2s.
Anyone who tells you a car has low torque and is therefore slow, is an idiot. |
Originally Posted by Scoop55
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I gotta learn to launch this biatch tho....right now it feels slower than my C55.
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