Nitrous Kit for my C55
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As Hooley proclaimed that he had the highest rwhp/rwtq numbers on record, I compared my most recent rwhp/rwtq numbers to any other C55 on this forum and elsewhere and could not find one with a higher rwhp/rwtq number especially on a DD dyno. Maybe MBMexico's twin turbo had higher numbers than any of us but I cound not find his official dyno chart nor any proof that the car was still running. Both our cars also had higher dyno numbers than the reigning C55 king (AMGDragon) 5 years ago.
Ultimately, it comes down to getting her to the track.
Ultimately, it comes down to getting her to the track.
Now, if you manage to take 'em, you'll have a record or two of your own.
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True. His former car is still THE record holder in terms of hard numbers on the dyno and on the strip. It's semantics but I guess there's no such thing as two record holders of anything. Come cooler weather and a new set of lightweight wheels that will fit over my Big brakes, I will pinpoint a convenient date at Sac or Famoso this September and hopefully get a handful of forum members to participate and have some fun. I would love to see the Benzos outrun some of the Vettes, Stangs, Beamers, Audis, etc.. again.
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That was suggested by a few others as well. It might be a good idea but I'm thinking of going back to a methanol injection kit again. It's really safe and cools down the charge air while making the fuel slightly richer due to the alcohol content in the methanol.
A friend also suggested re-routing the headlight washers and pointing them at the SC heat exchanger radiator which would act as a cooling agent as well.
A friend also suggested re-routing the headlight washers and pointing them at the SC heat exchanger radiator which would act as a cooling agent as well.
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True. His former car is still THE record holder in terms of hard numbers on the dyno and on the strip. It's semantics but I guess there's no such thing as two record holders of anything. Come cooler weather and a new set of lightweight wheels that will fit over my Big brakes, I will pinpoint a convenient date at Sac or Famoso this September and hopefully get a handful of forum members to participate and have some fun. I would love to see the Benzos outrun some of the Vettes, Stangs, Beamers, Audis, etc.. again.
edit: do you have pictures of your car you can share?
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Meth injection - to get the real big HP/TQ gains from meth you need a 'meth' tune which is more aggressive timing with the meth..... however the danger here is if the mech fuel pump for meth fails or a line breaks or if you run out of meth mixture you will damage the engine...... what the mustang crowd does with meth is to relocate the IAT sensor (Intake air temp) to the inlet piping, then spray the meth nozzle directly at the IAT sensor..... so the computer keeps the timing in...... however, if the meth fails or stops for some reason the the IAT heats up and pulls timing so you dont' damage your motor. I dont know if the mb w113 motor has an IAT sensor like this.... but something to think about.
You can get some other benefits from running meth WITHOUT a tune that takes full advantage of it... more for cooling, octane boost....... but I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle without the meth tune.
LMK if my ramble makes sense.
You can get some other benefits from running meth WITHOUT a tune that takes full advantage of it... more for cooling, octane boost....... but I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle without the meth tune.
LMK if my ramble makes sense.
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I agree. I had a AquaMist system on my car but no separate tune for it and it made very little difference on the dyno with it on or off. The temps were down a bit and the AFR was a little richer but no noticiable bump in rwhp/rwtq. I don't know if Rich would be interested in doing a separate tune on the RAT switch for a Meth kit but I will ask.
Meth injection - to get the real big HP/TQ gains from meth you need a 'meth' tune which is more aggressive timing with the meth..... however the danger here is if the mech fuel pump for meth fails or a line breaks or if you run out of meth mixture you will damage the engine...... what the mustang crowd does with meth is to relocate the IAT sensor (Intake air temp) to the inlet piping, then spray the meth nozzle directly at the IAT sensor..... so the computer keeps the timing in...... however, if the meth fails or stops for some reason the the IAT heats up and pulls timing so you dont' damage your motor. I dont know if the mb w113 motor has an IAT sensor like this.... but something to think about.
You can get some other benefits from running meth WITHOUT a tune that takes full advantage of it... more for cooling, octane boost....... but I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle without the meth tune.
LMK if my ramble makes sense.
You can get some other benefits from running meth WITHOUT a tune that takes full advantage of it... more for cooling, octane boost....... but I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle without the meth tune.
LMK if my ramble makes sense.
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I spoke to Rich at DynoComp again and he laid out the facts. First of all, the ECU WILL learn when the methanol raises octane and will advance the timing EVEN without a custom tune for it. When there is a problem with pump, nozzle, vacuum or electrical lines, the ECU will not retard timing fast enough and thus you can get engine damage. Secondly, the cooling benefits are mininal unless you spray alot and then you run the chance of that the liquid does not fully atomize and ends up corroding the bearings or stripping the coating off the impeller blades. The ideal location for max power is still at the intake ports but is very difficult to install and very risky due to possible wash down of the cylinders.
I was about the purchase a new Meth Kit but canceled it after this conversation with Rich.
I was about the purchase a new Meth Kit but canceled it after this conversation with Rich.
Meth injection - to get the real big HP/TQ gains from meth you need a 'meth' tune which is more aggressive timing with the meth..... however the danger here is if the mech fuel pump for meth fails or a line breaks or if you run out of meth mixture you will damage the engine...... what the mustang crowd does with meth is to relocate the IAT sensor (Intake air temp) to the inlet piping, then spray the meth nozzle directly at the IAT sensor..... so the computer keeps the timing in...... however, if the meth fails or stops for some reason the the IAT heats up and pulls timing so you dont' damage your motor. I dont know if the mb w113 motor has an IAT sensor like this.... but something to think about.
You can get some other benefits from running meth WITHOUT a tune that takes full advantage of it... more for cooling, octane boost....... but I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle without the meth tune.
LMK if my ramble makes sense.
You can get some other benefits from running meth WITHOUT a tune that takes full advantage of it... more for cooling, octane boost....... but I'm not convinced that it's worth the hassle without the meth tune.
LMK if my ramble makes sense.
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