AMG3.2

Great! Let me know

Anyone else want a diff? Good price!! Also, he said if your in the Bay Area, they would be able to heavily discount the price to install. Something to think about.

AMG3.2

Okay, so I saw that there are two types of diffs for the C32. I guess now we would have to figure out which type each of our cars needs. I wonder if there is a way to do this by VIN #...

macbryanie

Quaife sort of brushed me off; a sales guy whom obviously didnt read the query completely.(have resent another mail to Quaife basically asking the same thing) They did however advise me to contact these guys in the UK: http://www.birdsauto.com/quaife/sear...01&mi=C+32+AMG

They have two kits for the 32. Have sent them an email aswell. Wait and see,

Model code Description Application Retail Price:
203 Quaife Merc. Limited Slip Diff. Kit C 32 AMG, Final Drive with Output Flange
203 Quaife Merc. Limited Slip Diff. Kit C 32 AMG, Final Drive with Plug-in driveshafts

AMG3.2

lol read above your post^^

macbryanie

I had to supply VIN on the enquiry form and they(Birds) look very established. VIN will determine kit.

AMG3.2

Okay, great. They are a few hundred more though...

macbryanie

Yeah I know...a bummer. But that was my follow up email with quaife (if it is a quaife kit or an independant kit?) if its quaife then it is available worldwide and price subject to negotiation and group sale price etc. Just depends what the "kit" means exactly as I am sure ASP or anyone else can replicate it.

AMG3.2

Actually that's a good point. If Birds makes the kit then that would explain the price difference. I guess we will wait and see. Thanks for filling me in!

macbryanie

From Quaife:
Hello

If you speak to Kevin Birds Garage they will be able to confirm what diff
will be suitable for your vehicle as they have the software that if you give
them your chassis number they can confirm everything as we do not have
access to this information.

Quaife are pleased to announce that we will be exhibiting at the following:

Autosports International Show - Dates: 10, 11, 12 & 13, January 2013, Stand 8500.

Come and meet the team.

Kind regards


I guess Kevin Bird is the man for quaife (at least in the UK thats for sure). I thought that Quaife would have access to infomation regarding there own products ( I keep getting brushed off? Maybe its the Aussie vs England thing happening lol)

Lenin

C32s came with two types of axles. Some early models had a bolt on axle and later models had a plug in axle. Even the plug in axles came in two flavors. Quaife wants Kevin's place to chack your VIN to be sure as to which type of axle you have. I would say that 2003 and later need a LSD for the plug in axle. 2002s need to be checked. This info is for the US market. I don't know what was being sold in Australia. (you guys even drive on the wrong side of the street ).

macbryanie

Awesome thank you ,
If I am wrong, apologies: I recall reading that your install was good initially and then a leak came about and you replaced the axles(?) Is it still happy days with the lsd? Any cons with the quaife? I cant find any...
Oh and that would be the "right"side of the road BTW

Lenin

I had mine in since 2008. No problems since. During the original install one of the sides was leaking. I replaced the axles to the latest version from 2003 (the grooves that plug into the diff are a little longer) and everything was fine. I checked my original invoice from LET and there was no Quaife part number on it. So, I don't know what version i have. You can use EPC to check your vin number to see what axles you have. And BTW, like i said earlier, one of the best mods i have done.

macbryanie

Gold
I understand now, and thank you for going to the trouble to find a 5yr old invoice.
I'm sold.

AMG3.2

Yeah, greatly appreciated Lenin.

I, too, am now sold. Question is, where are my dollars going. Macbryanie, I'm still going to go the ASP route. I trust that they should be able to look up the VIN and determine the correct version. Michael Kuzni (forum member) and I have had good expriences with them thus far tuning wise, so I'm going to trust them on this one as well.

Let me know which route you decide to go. I mean if birds is willing to give us a better price for buying two diffs at the same time, that'd be great. Although, I don't think that would happen.

macbryanie

Yep, lead the way. Hopefully a couple more will jump on board.
Will still be posting results from Birds. More info the better n helps others searching later down the track etc. ASP havent replied email (no dramas) when you next speak with them could you please inquire on my behalf regarding the approx shipping cost International to AU. Cheers,

AMG3.2

Just called them and spoke with them. They said they will call me back regarding pricing. If we do go on to do the group buy, I'm going to open up a new thread. I asked about shipping and he said he was going to check and call me back. I'll make sure I ask again when they do call.

macbryanie

Attached are the results from quaife distributer in uk ;as Quaife referred directly to Birds I dont see any intellectual property disclosed or issues for the mods (?)
"Please find attached order document.
The difference is the application of shaft types. Some have plug-in shafts, some have bolted, and it's not relevant to model year...
Yours I believe has the bolted shafts, and therefore means that the Quaife is not a direct replacement. A modification needs to be made to the for the install (note page two of the attached guide).
Let me know if you have any questions"

AMG3.2

Great info! Thank you!

macbryanie

Ok, To update - I finally have the quaife in with the Birds kit. As Lenin said a couple of years ago - one of the best mods for this car.

My Indie had to fix up a torn sub frame (refer to the cl55 and e55 sub frame bolt - weld and replace) and the opportunity to install the dusty ornament Quaife presented itself. An amazing C32 transformation and I wish that it was the first thing I did to the car to be honest I should have listened to the indie at start - quaife, rubber, headers, pulley, intake then cooling. I did it this all in the complete opposite order. Anyways live and learn.

A highly recommended mod. Corner exit speed and stand out acceleration is so so very pleasing. Today was wet in the morning and the car has a planted confidence and is simply fantastic, I had my play of course - the drift is predictable and controllable - I am not a trained or self proclaimed racer but it was great fun and I didn't end up in the ditch or have the scary Holy Sh*t moments. Thus - yet another happy quaife story.

Anyone in Melbourne AU needing the Quaife install on a Benz or BMW - the Indie that I know has the tools and expertise to do so. In accordance to the Mbworld Moderators i will not post his details however you are welcome to pm me for his details.
As always - Happydays. Just alot more so

tw2

Congratulations! Glad you got it in finally and I hope you bought a new paper weight. I am looking forward to getting one also. Still waiting to hear back from wavetrac.

Lenin

Glad you like it. These cars should have come with an LSD to begin with. You could retrofit an AMG LSD at the factory only and none were available outside of the factory. Just was not available for purchase. My new MB will have an LSD standard. Can't wait.

///AchMeinGott

AMG seems to stubbornly have their head up their rears when it comes to some topics, like they seriously have something to prove.

"Our customers don't want manuals, so we make 'state of the art' autos."
In the top three "Any way to..." topics

"We use an excellent braking system to negate the need for an LSD"
In the top three "Wish these cars had..." topics

The fact it was only an option even on the C63 blows my mind...

C3Duece

there used to be a company out there (www.phantomgrip.com) that used to install a "spring block" mechanism into the diff which produced 60% lockup but they seem to be awol at the moment. Does anyone know of any less expensive options than quaiffe/wavetrac?


I was checking ebay and found a product very close to the phantomgrip unit but it's "generic" and doesn't come installed.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-LIMITED-SLIP-DIFF-DIFFERENTIAL-CONVERSION-KIT-PLATE-2-WAY-LSD-GEAR-JDM-/111452416037?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19f314e825&vxp=mtr

macbryanie

[QUOTE=tw2;6278321]Congratulations! Glad you got it in finally and I hope you bought a new paper weight. I am looking forward to getting one also. Still waiting to hear back from wavetrac.[/QUO
Long time mate,
Wow - I had a look at Quiafe for your 55 and the prices are just as bad as the 32. Interesting to see what Wavetrac come back with. LSD is definitely something that shouldn't shelved, but the pay to play aspect of it really hits home with this one. But its worth it.

macbryanie

Absolutely,
A new MB? Awesome Which series have lsd standard on MB USA delivered? Only black series here (AU) and performance pack (eg -c63 507 edition) have LSDs to my knowledge.