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video: me vs a stage 3 B5 S4
short run, but got absolutely smoked lol you can see my 6k HID got left in the dust...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKoSQHrtBfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKoSQHrtBfY
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Ouch...
Do you have any mods?
Do you have any mods?
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Oh man, Frank were you in reverse? J/K. It didn't look like your car was accelerating at all. Would you care to share more details about the short run, ie speed (60-120 etc). You need to get your car dynoed at HOP ASAP.
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Stage 3 should be putting down big numbers..
I don't think Frank has his ECU flashed yet.. just like me ;(
not it would make a difference, in this race.
However, we are talking about a light mod car vs a heavy mod car.
I don't think Frank has his ECU flashed yet.. just like me ;(
not it would make a difference, in this race.
However, we are talking about a light mod car vs a heavy mod car.
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Stage 3 B5 S4s are rated 400-500 flywheel hp.
They can even keep up with high hp supras on hwy.. nice death.
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They can even keep up with high hp supras on hwy.. nice death.
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Originally Posted by JamE55
What was the Stage 3 S4 putting down? rwhp/crank?
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Originally Posted by pshek
Oh man, Frank were you in reverse? J/K. It didn't look like your car was accelerating at all. Would you care to share more details about the short run, ie speed (60-120 etc). You need to get your car dynoed at HOP ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Quicktwinturbo
Stage 3 B5 S4s are rated 400-500 flywheel hp.
They can even keep up with high hp supras on hwy.. nice death.
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They can even keep up with high hp supras on hwy.. nice death.
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
They're quick, but not THAT quick. You need to define high hp supras, because for us supra guys, high is 700 up. 500 flywheel hp is attainable with boltons.
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Oh I'm not doubting that they get great trap speeds, AWD is invaluable at the track, but I'm talking about real life, on the highway, not staged in front of a triple tree with race gas in the tank. I used to work for Avalon Motorsports back in my early college years and I've seen my fair share of K04 beasties, but on the highway they really can't contend with high hp supras.
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
quick enough
Typical Stage 3 B5 S4's (all-bolt-ons) trap about 115-118 (full weight of 3800+ lbs)......the fastest ones trap 120-129. They can hang with most cars![Smilie](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Originally Posted by Cylinder Head
Oh I'm not doubting that they get great trap speeds, AWD is invaluable at the track, but I'm talking about real life, on the highway, not staged in front of a triple tree with race gas in the tank. I used to work for Avalon Motorsports back in my early college years and I've seen my fair share of K04 beasties, but on the highway they really can't contend with high hp supras.
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Originally Posted by pshek
That's fast. I guess you can't really compare stage 3 S4 mods to simple bolt on mods on FrankW's car. IMO, the chip, exhaust, and filter don't really add much HP at all. The larger crankshaft pulley is probably the only thing that increases the HP on the C32 by any significant margin. I hope my "stage 3" C32 coupe (3400lbs) will be able to keep up with a stage B5 S4 Avant when it's done.
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i got pulley, ecu, filter, and exhaust.
i'm guessing i barely hit the 400 crank mark since i still have the resonator and no y-splitter.
his awhp 353 usually has around similar lost to auto tranny around maybe 19-20% or more, so that puts him at 450hp or so.
plus 4wd car is underrated on the dyno most of the time.
gotta ask you for a ride next time Jackson
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his awhp 353 usually has around similar lost to auto tranny around maybe 19-20% or more, so that puts him at 450hp or so.
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Originally Posted by FrankW
i got pulley, ecu, filter, and exhaust.
i'm guessing i barely hit the 400 crank mark since i still have the resonator and no y-splitter.
his awhp 353 usually has around similar lost to auto tranny around maybe 19-20% or more, so that puts him at 450hp or so.
plus 4wd car is underrated on the dyno most of the time.
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his awhp 353 usually has around similar lost to auto tranny around maybe 19-20% or more, so that puts him at 450hp or so.
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I used to be a supra owner too
I consider 600+rwhp as high hp mk4 supras..
THeres few vids of S4s racing supra on SF. Stage 3 ain't no joke..
Correction: Maybe those S4s were running bigger turbo.. haha.. NEWaY!!
Stage 3 ain't no joke..
Very nIce RSP / M5 u got there..
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I consider 600+rwhp as high hp mk4 supras..
THeres few vids of S4s racing supra on SF. Stage 3 ain't no joke..
Correction: Maybe those S4s were running bigger turbo.. haha.. NEWaY!!
Stage 3 ain't no joke..
Very nIce RSP / M5 u got there..
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Frank you got the ECU?
where did you end up getting it?
As far a better mapping for our ECU. The next files will require headers. This will make it Stage 2 around 435hp if you have the Y intake and delete the resonator.
I believe PowerChip can map to higher octane ratings as well, not many have done that.
435hp +/- That is where the C32 tops out... due to its inefficient intercooler. With a larger intercooler and larger crank pulley EvoSport was developing a 500hp C32, but the R&D was stopped since the Kompressor clutch was not reliable.
Kudos on the Audi... very nice machine.
Can we ask.. how much have you spent on your car? In other words, to make a B5 S4 stage 3, how much are talking about? Parts and labor with a good tuner.
where did you end up getting it?
As far a better mapping for our ECU. The next files will require headers. This will make it Stage 2 around 435hp if you have the Y intake and delete the resonator.
I believe PowerChip can map to higher octane ratings as well, not many have done that.
435hp +/- That is where the C32 tops out... due to its inefficient intercooler. With a larger intercooler and larger crank pulley EvoSport was developing a 500hp C32, but the R&D was stopped since the Kompressor clutch was not reliable.
Kudos on the Audi... very nice machine.
Can we ask.. how much have you spent on your car? In other words, to make a B5 S4 stage 3, how much are talking about? Parts and labor with a good tuner.
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Originally Posted by TopGun32
Frank you got the ECU?
where did you end up getting it?
As far a better mapping for our ECU. The next files will require headers. This will make it Stage 2 around 435hp if you have the Y intake and delete the resonator.
I believe PowerChip can map to higher octane ratings as well, not many have done that.
435hp +/- That is where the C32 tops out... due to its inefficient intercooler. With a larger intercooler and larger crank pulley EvoSport was developing a 500hp C32, but the R&D was stopped since the Kompressor clutch was not reliable.
Kudos on the Audi... very nice machine.
Can we ask.. how much have you spent on your car? In other words, to make a B5 S4 stage 3, how much are talking about? Parts and labor with a good tuner.
where did you end up getting it?
As far a better mapping for our ECU. The next files will require headers. This will make it Stage 2 around 435hp if you have the Y intake and delete the resonator.
I believe PowerChip can map to higher octane ratings as well, not many have done that.
435hp +/- That is where the C32 tops out... due to its inefficient intercooler. With a larger intercooler and larger crank pulley EvoSport was developing a 500hp C32, but the R&D was stopped since the Kompressor clutch was not reliable.
Kudos on the Audi... very nice machine.
Can we ask.. how much have you spent on your car? In other words, to make a B5 S4 stage 3, how much are talking about? Parts and labor with a good tuner.
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Originally Posted by jgsx
What kind of numbers and times have people been getting with stage 3 and stage 4 S4s?
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Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE
Frank.....can u get a more agressive ECU/chip? Cuz i know with the Audis...you can run a regular pump file software (which i ran the other night) and then a racegas file as well. Also...even with pump gas files, some are more aggressive than others.....just wondering if you had that option? Drivetrain loss on Audi Quattro AWD is about 24%. Usually...we just take the AWHP from Dyno and Multiply by anywhere between 1.18-1.28, depending on the Dyno.
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good info on the drivetrain loss. my guesstimate was pretty on the spot then
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the more i read about the B5 S4 the more I wish I had gotten the S4 in 2001. It was one of the car I considered back then, but wasn't into modding then. :drool:
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