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Old 02-16-2008, 09:16 AM
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
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brembos on my volvo look similar, and are not light . anyway, those look tab mounted, i think u'd have to figure out if u can create a big/strong enough piece to mount that caliper to withstand the forces
I cannot speak for the Volvo but I can tell you that these calipers are many lbs lighter than the stock AMG callipers on my C43. I think these would work pretty well if a mount has to be fabricated. They seem to work well for the STi,Evo,and heavier SRT8. Not to mention that my car is much lighter than a Volvo at 3362 lbs. That's pretty much = to the STi and Evo.
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
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I am sure you could have a mounting plate made to get those to fit your C55. It is how any of the conversions work from AP to StopTech. It is just a matter of measurement.

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Jeff you took the words out of my mouth! Mounting brackets!!

This is how they were able to fit the Mustang Cobra/Corvette Zo4 front callipers and Eradispeed 13.5" 2 piece rotors (Actually Baer brake kit) in front of my Eagle Talon. Special brackets were made, and for these being "fixed" rotors and very light PBR rotors at that,they work very well after repeated hard stops.

That's why I think I'll lend these callipers to the AMG and see what happens, intead of dissassembling the Baer brake kit off the Talon and using these Brembos to replace them.
I only need to worry about whether the stock AMG 18" monos I have will allow me to use the Brembos for now.
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i don't remember my wagon being that much heavier than 3300, afterall, the sedan version weighed in at ~3200

anyway, have u thought about upgrade the master cylinder? rotors and calipers only do so much.. more fluid/force exerted from the master cylinder would work really well. (sorry to jack the thread)
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C43/55,2k11 Volvo S60 T6AWD,2k Audi B5 S4,95 Eagle Talon Tsi AWD 500+awhp
Originally Posted by steve s
i don't remember my wagon being that much heavier than 3300, afterall, the sedan version weighed in at ~3200

anyway, have u thought about upgrade the master cylinder? rotors and calipers only do so much.. more fluid/force exerted from the master cylinder would work really well. (sorry to jack the thread)
That's not an easy thing to find and for the C43 perhaps not necessary. The calipers and rotors on the C43 are bigger than the caliper and rotors on the C36 so I'll make the krazee assumption of saying perhaps this goes for the master cylinder as well and is already an AMG upgrade from the c36.


Speedy Benz races his C43/55 on the track with upgraded callipers and never mentions anything about chging the master cylider. The stck C43 MC should be good to go.
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putting a stereo system in a c43 or any other spirited MB is just plain dumb. go buy a ****ing minivan if you want the entertainment and comfort. these cars are meant to be driven, hifi stereos in high end cars isnt "tight" at all its gay if you ask me, what a stupid waste of time....
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Originally Posted by SeeKlasse
putting a stereo system in a c43 or any other spirited MB is just plain dumb. go buy a ****ing minivan if you want the entertainment and comfort. these cars are meant to be driven, hifi stereos in high end cars isnt "tight" at all its gay if you ask me, what a stupid waste of time....
Ahmen brother !!!
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sounds like airplane
nobody who actually owns a decent stereo system would ever use the work "tight" to describe it

sorry i ruffled your feathers- i'll put a few hundred extra lbs and 4 passengers and race either of you anytime
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W203 C55 and SAAB 9-3 2.0T
So heres what I gather and think could be possible;

Swap the seats out https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...seats-c36.html should save close to 100lbs
Swap out stock rotors 21lbs each stock and 5lbs ea after swap, saves 30lbs
Upgraded exhaust and cats, saves around 50lbs
Swap the stock hood for a 19lbs CF, save an est 70lbs
New battery saves 20lbs
Remove spare tire and replace with can of fix O flat, saves 45lbs
Remove CD changer and replace with ipod, saves 5lbs
Light weight wheels can save you around 40lbs

So around 350lbs reduced, give or take!!! To give you an idea what that much wight can do to you can, have two 175lbs friends get in the car with you and see how much slower and awful your car feels in a str8 line and around corners! I think it could really make big difference in the performance and feel of the car.

Our cars weigh 3380lbs w/o a driver, so this puts our cars almost under 3000lbs.


Reducing 350lbs also = to:
adding 35hp
or
Shaving .35 seconds of your 1/4 mile time.


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Originally Posted by austinholloman
Swap out stock rotors 21lbs each stock and 5lbs ea after swap, saves 30lbs
Hmm, what type rotors do you want to swap the OEM's
Other weight saving ideas look good

Get some Brembo calipers, only just over 4kg each

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W203 C55 and SAAB 9-3 2.0T
I think its the brake-man rotors that are only 5lbs each.
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Also optima battery for a few pounds less
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Austin - Bravo for one of the more logical posts!
It's no secret that hot rodders have cut wgt for increased performance.

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Originally Posted by austinholloman
Swap the stock hood for a 19lbs CF, save an est 70lbs
Where are you getting this info from?
Old 01-09-2011, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Where are you getting this info from?
Pretty simple. Shipping weight on a few hoods I found was 80 to 100 lbs and the CF hood if only 19lbs. The numbers are give or take a few lbs in each direction.
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Originally Posted by betrezra
Austin - Bravo for one of the more logical posts!
It's no secret that hot rodders have cut wgt for increased performance.

Thx
Not sure if this is an insult or a complement but thanks? I do have to admit that I come up from some pretty wild ideas while ive been stuck in bed the past 8 days hoped up on pains meds (broken knee) but this one seems pretty solid.
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tryed 2 take out my cd changer but my am/fm will not work with it not hooked up
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Hm. In the CLK? Mine did just fine when removed.
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Originally Posted by austinholloman
Hm. In the CLK? Mine did just fine when removed.
I don't have the CD charger so I'm already a bit lighter
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Originally Posted by austinholloman
I think its the brake-man rotors that are only 5lbs each.
Can't find the weight of Brembo rotors but the calipers are 4,350kg each
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Now that your talking about weight reductions.
no-one thought about slim Jim?
Slimmin' the drivers guts?
To many hot dogs and burgars in your guts slows your car down, to much of a dead weight to carry!
Perfect ideal person is the size of a jockey which only eat NASA dehydrated powder food and drinks water.
Now thats your perfect driver, light n short person.
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Now not too short the driver or will not reach the pedals
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So the CD player was that heavy? Man. MP3, and Playstation 2 are staying though.
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hallelujah this thread has been resurrected!
thank you austin

now lets get on some diets!
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Originally Posted by austinholloman
Pretty simple. Shipping weight on a few hoods I found was 80 to 100 lbs and the CF hood if only 19lbs. The numbers are give or take a few lbs in each direction.
Simple yes. Accurate no.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Simple yes. Accurate no.
Do you have the right answer? Have you put a hood on a scale? Because no one else has either and that's as close to accurate I've found. If you have two people and a scale and a w202 then go weigh it, if not, then take it for what it is, an estemate. Did you have a real point or are you just trying to blow wholes in the thread for no reason?


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