* Weight Reduction thread *
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* Weight Reduction thread *
Hey guys,
Took out a decent amount of stuff from my car today and weighed them on my super accurate scale in order to get an accurate weight reduction amount. Thought I'd share the results with you.
- CD changer w/ mount & carpet cover = 7.170 lbs
- plastic spare tire circle cup = 1.275 lbs
- Jack = 3.430 lbs
- Tools = 1.625 lbs
- Rear Spare Tire = 49.8 lbs
total weight reduction for today = 63.30 lbs exactly.
Not a bad days work, and since every 10lbs ~ 1HP thats not too bad. I am still far off my goal of 250 lbs + but I don't think it should be too difficult to get there. my OEM battery has been replaced with an interstate aftermarket battery (not a lightweight one but a similar replacement model) and even those are usually 10lbs lighter than OEM, so the car is probably already a little bit lighter, but I am going to go all out and get the Odyssey PC680 w/ battery box.
The only thing I want to do in order to get that is disable my parking lights that stay on when you lock the car (for about 10 seconds). anyone know how to disable that pointless feature?
Anyways... lots more weight savings to come
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Took out a decent amount of stuff from my car today and weighed them on my super accurate scale in order to get an accurate weight reduction amount. Thought I'd share the results with you.
- CD changer w/ mount & carpet cover = 7.170 lbs
- plastic spare tire circle cup = 1.275 lbs
- Jack = 3.430 lbs
- Tools = 1.625 lbs
- Rear Spare Tire = 49.8 lbs
total weight reduction for today = 63.30 lbs exactly.
Not a bad days work, and since every 10lbs ~ 1HP thats not too bad. I am still far off my goal of 250 lbs + but I don't think it should be too difficult to get there. my OEM battery has been replaced with an interstate aftermarket battery (not a lightweight one but a similar replacement model) and even those are usually 10lbs lighter than OEM, so the car is probably already a little bit lighter, but I am going to go all out and get the Odyssey PC680 w/ battery box.
The only thing I want to do in order to get that is disable my parking lights that stay on when you lock the car (for about 10 seconds). anyone know how to disable that pointless feature?
Anyways... lots more weight savings to come
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sounds like airplane
it's a rule of thumb- that holds basically true for some situations.
you bought the wrong car if your trying to make it light- you're basically going to take away what sets it apart from the competition in a good way without making large enough gains to beat the competition at that game...
i'm by no means adverse to weight savings and have engineered my modifications to be as light as possible for what i've done, but i don't really get it.
you bought the wrong car if your trying to make it light- you're basically going to take away what sets it apart from the competition in a good way without making large enough gains to beat the competition at that game...
i'm by no means adverse to weight savings and have engineered my modifications to be as light as possible for what i've done, but i don't really get it.
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equivalent of adding one HP? what does that mean? ok a stock C280 has 194 HP, if you remove the Resonator, Spare Wheel, the weight reduction is about 30+50 = 80lbs. ok, now how much HP does this C280 have based on your logic? can you dyno test your car to prove that you gain HP, if any? other than that, its pure speculation.
I could just say that for every AMG sticker you add, you gain 1HP.
I could just say that for every AMG sticker you add, you gain 1HP.
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equivalent of adding one HP? what does that mean? ok a stock C280 has 194 HP, if you remove the Resonator, Spare Wheel, the weight reduction is about 30+50 = 80lbs. ok, now how much HP does this C280 have based on your logic? can you dyno test your car to prove that you gain HP, if any? other than that, its pure speculation.
I could just say that for every AMG sticker you add, you gain 1HP.
I could just say that for every AMG sticker you add, you gain 1HP.
you are an idiot
see my above post for my opinion on how cool it is to remove 250 lbs worth or weight from your C43- but if you are unable to comprehend the idea that reducing weight increases performance (in a way that directly relates to what would happen if you increased hp) i don't know what to tell you.
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you are an idiot
see my above post for my opinion on how cool it is to remove 250 lbs worth or weight from your C43- but if you are unable to comprehend the idea that reducing weight increases performance (in a way that directly relates to what would happen if you increased hp) i don't know what to tell you.
see my above post for my opinion on how cool it is to remove 250 lbs worth or weight from your C43- but if you are unable to comprehend the idea that reducing weight increases performance (in a way that directly relates to what would happen if you increased hp) i don't know what to tell you.
hahahaha, OBD2 scanner has officially been owned.
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it's a rule of thumb- that holds basically true for some situations.
you bought the wrong car if your trying to make it light- you're basically going to take away what sets it apart from the competition in a good way without making large enough gains to beat the competition at that game...
i'm by no means adverse to weight savings and have engineered my modifications to be as light as possible for what i've done, but i don't really get it.
you bought the wrong car if your trying to make it light- you're basically going to take away what sets it apart from the competition in a good way without making large enough gains to beat the competition at that game...
i'm by no means adverse to weight savings and have engineered my modifications to be as light as possible for what i've done, but i don't really get it.
I appreciate the input though.
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sounds like airplane
nimble is overrated without a manual transmission- although i do greatly appreciate the ride and handling of my car (and it is why i don't have a E55).
I don't know what weight reduction #s can be made without sacrificing anything "real", but i do know that it would be a mistake to do so.
I don't know what weight reduction #s can be made without sacrificing anything "real", but i do know that it would be a mistake to do so.
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nimble is overrated without a manual transmission- although i do greatly appreciate the ride and handling of my car (and it is why i don't have a E55).
I don't know what weight reduction #s can be made without sacrificing anything "real", but i do know that it would be a mistake to do so.
I don't know what weight reduction #s can be made without sacrificing anything "real", but i do know that it would be a mistake to do so.
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sounds like airplane
well- don't you think your spare tire serves a purpose?
anyways- since that one is debatable, what are you going to remove next? you will quickly hit a wall where anything further removed becomes significant.
anyways- since that one is debatable, what are you going to remove next? you will quickly hit a wall where anything further removed becomes significant.
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It does not serve a purpose if you have AAA plus, I get free flat bed for 100 miles if I ever needed it, I haven't run spare tire in 8 years, its the first thing that always goes. Gotta love AAA
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there was a long thread about it on club202. It actually wasn't has hard as most people thought, you can do it without touching the interior. you can go even more extreme but it requires upgrading to big brake kit and carbon fiber hood and all that jazz, but realistically 200-235 isn't THAT difficult.
Our brake systems are REDICULOUSLY heavy (out of the SL600 for the 96 & 97 ones) I heard the brake system alone you can save a good 40lbs. I won't be doing that just b/c its too much work IMO and I think stock brakes with less weight + pads & SS lines and the right tires is more than enough stopping power
The stock battery is absurdly heavy as well and you can also drop a decent amount of weight by upgrading the exhaust system.
I will do a full update as I take more stuff out and carefully document he weight for all you guys to learn from.
More to come...
Our brake systems are REDICULOUSLY heavy (out of the SL600 for the 96 & 97 ones) I heard the brake system alone you can save a good 40lbs. I won't be doing that just b/c its too much work IMO and I think stock brakes with less weight + pads & SS lines and the right tires is more than enough stopping power
The stock battery is absurdly heavy as well and you can also drop a decent amount of weight by upgrading the exhaust system.
I will do a full update as I take more stuff out and carefully document he weight for all you guys to learn from.
More to come...
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You should look into some light alloy wheels. OZ Racing makes a few at a decent price...less rotational mass will equate to better handling, acceleration...improvements you will certainly notice. A lighter battery and removal of the spare tire will help, but trust me, you can put the CD changer back in. 
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Redoing the exhaust system with lighter more performance based parts will work. Also a complete brake upgrade with lighter calipers and rotors. A light weight dry cell battery, ect you get the idea
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You should look into some light alloy wheels. OZ Racing makes a few at a decent price...less rotational mass will equate to better handling, acceleration...improvements you will certainly notice. A lighter battery and removal of the spare tire will help, but trust me, you can put the CD changer back in.
i agree light wheels will help so I am looking to see what alternatives there are. thx for the advice
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if you take weight off the front as well it will balance itself out. Either way I don't need 50/50 weight distribution, this isn't a race car, nor is it an E36 M3. If you are worried about stuff like that sell your C36 and go get an E36 M3.
I've already done the E36 M3 route so I wanted a change of pace so I got a C36 which is basically more an old school euro muscle car instead of a cult racer.
E36 M3 = surgeons scalpal
C36 AMG = Massive sledgehammer
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sounds like airplane
if you take weight off the front as well it will balance itself out. Either way I don't need 50/50 weight distribution, this isn't a race car, nor is it an E36 M3. If you are worried about stuff like that sell your C36 and go get an E36 M3.
I've already done the E36 M3 route so I wanted a change of pace so I got a C36 which is basically more an old school euro muscle car instead of a cult racer.
E36 M3 = surgeons scalpal
C36 AMG = Massive sledgehammer
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I've already done the E36 M3 route so I wanted a change of pace so I got a C36 which is basically more an old school euro muscle car instead of a cult racer.
E36 M3 = surgeons scalpal
C36 AMG = Massive sledgehammer
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and that makes my car a supersledgehammer?
either way- you are sort of arguing against yourself with that post... talking about how it isn't meant to be a "scalpal" or an E36 when you are the one thinking that weight reduction is so necessary. the returns from weight reduction fall off quick once you're already up to speed... where these cars shine vs. the E36 (mostly due to transmissions/gearing)
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