Dr. C36

hehe, good luck fly navy, do you know how few multi-piece AMG wheels were made in that style. Probably no more than a hundred sets in the world.

P.S. I never liked red but I have to admit that is the most badass red one I've seen.

FLYNAVY

Yeah there is a forest green 500e over on the 500e board with the same wheels and they also look incredible. I bet if I looked long and hard enough...

Militant-Grunt

They sell replica's of those. Thats if those in the picture are even real.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-8-...QQcmdZViewItem

svt ricco

looks like its real... amg engraved on the face.

ProjectC55

Good find!!!

However, damn bro sorry to have read about your Audi.I was looking forward to see you build it, Unbelievable! Jeez!

PTE

Good Morning All: I was on I-95 around the Pompano Beach stretch , I saw a clean Red C-36. I thought it might be Ted Baldwin , But I couldn't keep up with it . To Confirm or get a Phone Picture. It a Cool Car.. BTW I got a new Dodge 4X4 2500 Maga cab , with the Blue tech 6.7 Diesel. This is my 1st diesel with the MB common rail hi pressure DI. It is very Quite & powerfull !
but not enough to keep up with that Red C-36 Teddddd/? Cheers PTEngineering

e30t387

330 is not faster, those things are dogs.

SeeKlasse

couldnt keep up with a c36 in your clk55 or you didnt have the ***** to go as fast?

you guys gotta take a step back and notice that the red w202, despite how nice it looks, is a non-sport c280... pretty bland, but dressed up pretty. kinda like a woman who looks hot in clothes but looks ok when nekkid... same story here my friends.

SeeKlasse

i think that black c43 in that sepia pic is really really nice. very classy, its got the 18inch monoblocks and the whole thing just looks great... i love that pic

e34m20

400 miles per tank has to be 100% exclusive and continuous highway miles. Am I right?

How many miles per tank on your usual mixed driving routine? 300?

My aforementioned 2005 C230 K with the same sized gas tank has yet to crest 400 miles on a tank of mixed driving. I had 398 once before the reserve light came on.

My car weighs less, has a substantially lower coefficient of drag, and an ultra efficient forced induction 16 Valve 1.8L . There is no driving situation were your car will match mines fuel economy (all other things equal) unless of course you preform a race track fuel economy test like they did this season on Top Gear.

I have not run a tank empty on the highway alone yet, but am confident that I could make 500 miles at 65-70 MPH with the cruise control. By driving slower up hills, faster down hills and doing some draft action when possible, I could get up to 540 miles before reserve.

There is a HUMONGOUS difference between emptying a tank in a single highway run and ANYTHING else.

bagelsjustbagel

^^ what gas are you using for that type of driving?^^

Dr. C36

Ya but those replicas aren't nearly as good looking as the real AMG two pieces. Good luck in finding them they are amazing wheels.

SeeKlasse

93 octance here in georgia, hes probably using bp gas or another major brand. most other gasses are crap. especially if you live in an area where 91 octane is the premium lol...

you know his gas tank is the same size as ours too?

i got my 1st c43 from washington dc. 8 days after my 97 c280 was severely rear-ended. i noticed IMMEDIATELY how much more gas it drank than my c280 (which i drove about 20k a year). being very familiar with a car that i had clocked at a hair over 31mpg on a 3 hr highway drive i was really surprised at how much more gas the c43 used during my 10 hour drive from dc -> atlanta. i had to stop to refuel several times. i was very dissapointed but at the same time didnt give a **** because i was driving (to me) a dream car

PJmak

1994 c280

3\4 of a tank, sacto to dublin and back

Dr. C36

I've always been fascinated by the 190e. After having 4 E30 bmws I wanted to switch over and get a 190e. I have yet to find one to my liking though. I would want either EVOII (super rare) or a 190e w/ 3.6L M104 conversion but both are hard to find or comeby and nobody who has done the swap is willing to let go of their car.

What have you done on yours?

FLYNAVY

Actually I got better than that cross country during 100% freeway stretches.

Last time I drove over 300 miles before filling, I ended up pumping 12 gallons into the tank. So presumably there were 4 more in the tank, right? That was ~ 30/70 in town and on the freeway respectively (since my drive to work is both). Works out to be 25 mpg.

Who knows man, engine displacement is not the only factor to consider in terms of gas mileage. I'm not familiar with your car (w204) or your driving style. Aerodynamics, gearing (and engine speed at cruise), speed you actually do cruise at, driving style, tires, tune of engine, etc are all things which could explain the difference. This really isn't BS, I have the gas receipts and logs (yeah, I'm that weird) to prove it , and I really have no reason to lie/exaggerate here.

Lots of misinformation here. See above, but additionally:

C43:
3350 lb curb weight (verified on my most recent weigh-in)
0.32 CD

C230K (w204)
3280 lb curb weight
0.27 CD

From an engineer's standpoint (yes, I have a degree in mechanical engineering w/ a focus on "fluids") the difference in these CD's is not enormous. Pick up trucks are generally in the 4.5-5 CD range, so a 0.05 difference does not amount to whole lot when all other variables are factored in. Also, the weight difference is 70 lbs? That's like the difference between my car having the trunk full of bags for a trip and having it empty. Yes that could affect gas mileage, but I've never noticed much difference either way. Maybe you are just driving with hidden lead weights in your car

Why is this relevant to our conversation? That is fantastic that your car could do that, but it has nothing to do w/ C36/C43's

You are right, and that was exactly my point here...the 400 figure was IN TOWN as well.

Edit: actually, haha I should have read more closely. I am actually quite familiar w/ the w204 C230K, and I even made an extended drive through OR into northern WA in one several months ago. I was surprised at how similar the gas consumption was to my C43, so maybe that just confirms the situation. Nice cars, although they really should not have re-designed that center console. Top drawer on that f**king thing would not close or open to save its life.

FLYNAVY

Yeah they are great cars...definitely in the same spirit as the e30. You will not find an evo II this side of the atlantic (there were only 2 documented gray market imports to the US, and maybe another evo I and evo II in Canada if I remember right that weren't US federalized ever), but there is a 3.6L conversion 190e w/ a Wald kit FS over on the 190e site. It is priced at 11k right now, and has been for sale for some time now. Has a 5 spd manual gearbox. Look up rammbs over there if you are interested.

I have done a bunch of cosmetic mods (w202 style hood, fender flares in front, AMG front and rear spoilers, 16v side cladding and rocker panels, etc), and am just putting the final touches on my 5.6L v8 swap. Motor was from a 560 SEL. Tons of mods related to that.....(headers, full custom exhaust, 500e swaybar, 16v steering box, oil cooler, C36 brakes to name a few)

svt ricco

yo fly, please post pics of your 190... i'm so curious about it

FLYNAVY

See a couple posts up....thats mine

But if you care to see more of the build, here is a good link w/ like 30 pages or something that I have been updating for a couple years:

FLYNAVY's never-ending but hopefully very soon ending V8 190e motor swap project build thread

Most recent photos are in the last couple pages.....

svt ricco

very nice! that thing must be fast!?

FLYNAVY

Haven't gotten to drive it yet, but on paper it should be:

~2700 lbs
289 lb-ft tq and 240 bhp (probably more of both due to the headers, exhaust, elimination of aux air and a/c)

I'm guessing it will be faster than the C43....

e30t387

i just ordered a pair, lets see how good they are the price is reasonable, those are def one of my favorite lookin wheels for the c43 or 36, now just need to order some nice tires.

e34m20

I had quoted all your counter points and continued to argue my case, but when I was done writing I deleted the whole thing and decided that there is really no point in writing so much.

The only thing I have to say is that consistently averaging 25 MPG in mixed driving on a car that was EPA tested 18/23 is pretty talented. Especially considering that the EPA highway testing for (pre 2008) is at 55mph with no A/C.

p.s
w203. w204 is the 2008+

C43AMG

You want to sell the 560 airbox ?

myc43amg

TAKE SOME PICS PLEASE. I like to see if the rear tires have that big LIP like the ones on the red car. I looked at the ebay ones and from their pictures the lip seem to be the same on all 4, SMALL.