fly navy, that's my point exactly. all the talk about hp,skid pad times, g force measurements, etc. don't mean squat in the real world. both cars are nice to drive on the street. the difference between the two is hardly worth talking about as regular daily drivers. some prefer a v8, some an i6. i just meant that these young guys are just pounding their chest, not really racing their cars. there are a few exceptions on this board but most are "all flaps, no throttle"

 

yes while I agree with the sentiment, I just thought I'd point out unless he has sold the C43/55 & reverted to something "smaller" [as I], he has both ... Superior driving skills w/a car that out-handles most others on the road, PLUS a tweeked C43 w/a 55 conversion, running hi-flow exhaust, headers, and totally worked intake manifold replacing our 2-stage runners w/velocity stack trumpets...and...and...and (that is with assumptions he's put all that back on his car since the crash of the original C43). Just imagine what it's like now on the track.

Carl, you too I hear from Jeffrey M.! Exhaust, Headers, Phenolic Spacers, what else? How many re-flashes?

Getting back... Well, folks don't have to imagine. Buy mine, take some weight out, do some air-flow modz in & out, and you'll be there! While Jeff took out about 200lbs, making it a 3300'ish lb car helping it be more nimble, I just went & bought myself a 2700 lb car. ...Factory JCW MINI presently in the middle of the Atlantic on its way over to me. I should have it in a couple of weeks. Now it won't be as outrightly fast... or ultimately handle as well as my car can w/the speedybenz susp when it (the MINI) has the stock susp (but imagine the Penske 8100s on that!), I have my reasons.

 

this thread is getting pretty wild.

i love my c43... i think im going to go drive it. you guys have a good time battling it out

 

hehe, you know I was joking when I said this thread could go on for 10 years... I didn't realize there would actually be coming true haha.

 

could? it has! for the 10 years the c43 has been out, c36 and c43 owners have been debating over negligible symantics and how the cars perform on paper. its an age-old struggle.

our debate is negligible, however, there is a heated debate over the e55 komp vs the new e63 in which the 63 is actually slower... that must be a tought one for those who spent 90k for a car inferior to its predecessor.

 

speedybenz is one of the exceptions. now here's a guy who can back up the talk with the walk. i don't believe he still has to original car. it was crashed and he replaced it with a '99. i'm sure he transplanted all the go fast parts to the new car. would love to see him at the track.

 

After crashing the C43, he bought Kevin's C43 w/a 55 conversion [I wrote a ROTM on it while Kevin's... http://www.club202.com/forums/showth...&threadid=8710 ]
However last I conversed w/him, he was building a new house and didn't have time to put all the parts he saved off the old car onto the new one. That was a while ago; right after he made upper front perches for me and I was having them put on, last year (year before? I forget). Hoping he's gotten settled and got to do so by now. You out there Jeff? What's cook'n? (if not before, we are solidly OT now...! )

 

I agree it does suck to spend more for "inferior" car as far as straight line speed, However I do like the newer styling, and the build quality has improved on the 63s as well as reliability (which was to be honest not that good on the kompressor engines in general).

 

The 6.2L engine on a lighter car is great. I fell in love w/the CLK63 (convert; not black series) that I drove on the track @ the AMG Challenge. 1st time ever I was sorry I put all that money into my car. That money, and trade-in, would have went a long way towards the cost of the CLK63...

 

very wise comment, I think everyone learns their lesson the first time they go all out on mods on their first big toy. From now on I always budget about $2500 tops per car to ensure I never get stuck investing too much $$ into a car. Anything more then that and I sell and upgrade to something thats quicker stock. We've all been there. I have my eye on the C63, thats one hell of a car.

 

I dont see any true w202 fans here except the guy who started this thread

 

Huh???

I will say I'm not a fan of the reliability of w202's, but the aesthetics, and of course the power and fun factor of the AMG 202's is a whole different story

 

wtf are you talking about dude? im on my FOURTH w202. 96 c280, 97 c280, 98 c43.. then another 98 c43

ive been drooling over w202's since they came out, theyre so tight (especially the AMG versions)

 

BTW lol at this thread. There have definitely been about half a dozen identical ones previously. Perhaps we can re-group and get this headed down another fantastic road: C43 vs CLK430

or maybe C43 vs 330ci (e46).....my personal favorite, though it's not really even an argument, just a bunch of delusional BMW fans with a chip on their shoulders that their "sporty" 3-series is no M3

 

I didnt mean everyone literally

theres so many guys here wishing for another car over a 202 and I know allot who've sold their 202s to buy some new cars

but w\e, ur choice, just saying


you shouldnt be giving him advice if youll sell your 202 for some garbage

once the time comes and it becomes a classic, youll be sorry and yes, Ive had 4 202s in my familly as well, 2 were totaled

 

I don't think anyone has mentioned any cars which an informed person could call garbage.....CLK63, Mini Cooper S, M3??? Not seeing it....

 

yes all those cars are great but to a true w202 fan, a w202 is better


and I dont mean performance wise


a w202 is the only car that exists for you, the car youll take over any other car in its class at least, its kinda like the fanboy thing but in a different way

you can pretend to like the 202 more then all those cars but if you really feel like your w202 makes you happier then you are a true w202 fan

watch the whole thing

http://youtube.com/watch?v=1VTeCiEmR7o

 

Well I guess you are sort of right there....I love my C43, but my heart is still w/ my w201

 

bmw 330?

its just another bmw ffs lol, even if its faster it still means nothing lol


I always liked w201s, sometimes
I think they are nicer lookin then 202s but then I change my mind lol


202 ftw

 

After you own various Mercedes for many years you may change your mind when you realize that no one individual Mercedes chassis is the end all or be all...W202 chassis was more an extension of what preceeded it as what replaced it was a much different vehicle.

Currently I own a 1971 280SL W113, 1988 300CE C124 ( purchased new in May of 1988 ) that had a period twin turbo installed last year, a 1999 C43 AMG W202, 2003 G55 AMG W463, and arriving this weekend from Florida a 1994 E320 Cab A124....

Is one greater then the other????...not really as they all have different "personalities", but all are very much true Mercedes Benz....

 

Not faster than a C43

Here's my 201.....then again it's not exactly standard, but I like it

 

A "good" manufacturer will never allow their customers to be satisfied. Greatness is a moving target that has the illusion of standing still. That paramnesia is shattered when ***BAM*** - the next big thing is released.

Right about then, jaws drop, women swoon, and the target audience cracks open the check book. Happiness is found for a while. And then we get the next new model, which results in the buying public loosing their minds . . . . again

 

W202 is a great car for its era but at the end of the day SO many MB generations have come since for all the different models. After all W204 is already out and in a few years I'm sure W205 will be coming out as well. The car has character to boot and is loads of fun and is built in an era when MB made rediuclously high quality cars. But at the end of the day, its not the best car in the world and to believe so would be foolish or naive. Its a fun great car, especially for the price. Think about it, for $8k you can get a great C36 & c43 which used to cost $50k ish new (adjusted for inflation over $100k in todays dollars). Talk about a steal.

c36 vs. C43 debate will never end, it all comes down to personal preference... PERIOD. Both are great in their own way, enough said. now lets all get back to being W202 buddies .

 

nice and clean 201 dude, love it


btw ive been to the meets and seen lots of customized amgs just like everyone here im guessin but nothing excites me more then a nicely done 202

sometimes I don't even care how it drives, it just looks...........perfect

so as I said id be satisfied with either of those two cars



http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...n/DSC06213.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15.../20236ze-1.jpg

 

Thats the hottest 202 I have ever seen in my life. I need those wheels....