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Old 10-28-2008, 03:08 AM
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Kleemann LSD

I'm sure you all know by now that I installed a Kleemann LSD a few weeks back. Time for the review of it's performance.

Cost: It is on the high side considering that it is no-longer (so I'm told, mine wasn't) has the diff gears supplied, your own must be machined down to new specs.

Fitment: Can be done by yourself if you have the time to remove your gears and wait to get them machined. For me it was just R/R the diff and send it to a diff shop to get it done, it's not worth the few dollars saved.

Break-in: Kleemann didn't specify any break-in instructions. I found the diff to initally be quite noisy. After rechecking with them I was told that it will be noisy while it "beds-in". Fair enough. I drove slowly in a tight circle for a few mins clockwise then anti-clockwise, much quieter. After 2 weeks I haven't heard it since. They don't specify any changed oil drain interval, but it must have a high quality Synthetic oil. I'm changing the oil in a few weeks then again every year, it's cheaper than a new diff.

Performance: I am pleased with the added traction. It's main benifits are during high speed cornering on the track and in wet weather on the street. I was getting tired of the ESP light going off at every set of traffic lights. Definately a worthwhile upgrade, even if you don't go to the track.

Value: I have the benifit of having fitted a Quaife LSD at the same time to a W210 E55 so I can compair the two. I think the Quaife unit is better value as it is very well built, it's a complete diff center, is warranted even for drag racing and is considerably cheaper than the Kleemann unit. I have seen the phantom grip units (same design as Kleemann), I still feel much more confident with Kleemann, they stand behind their product, they can't afford to get it wrong. I had to get the Kleemann unit as Quaife don't make a unit for the W202. If I had a choice I would take the Quaife 1st and Kleemann 2nd
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sounds like airplane
ultimately what prevents us from fitting the entire assembly from the w210?
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ultimately what prevents us from fitting the entire assembly from the w210?
I spoke with cory from kleemann about this once. My tech had a rear from a CLK55 and I looked into having it done. I was told the the amount of work needed upstream of the rear is prohibitive. The ECU and TCU will crap out I guess as tory told me. Makes sense I guess. I've honestly been checking around for a 2nd C43 diff. I was considering sending phantom grip an extra diff over the winter. If it blows up I will still have the original. $499 is pretty sweet even if it is a kleemann clone.
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sounds like airplane
yeah, for sure.

as things stand now i'd pay about 1k if i could find a way this year for that much. down the road it may seem more necessary, who knows.

also, happy to hear that this is working well for ausmbtech
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Originally Posted by NitrogenBalance
I spoke with cory from kleemann about this once. My tech had a rear from a CLK55 and I looked into having it done. I was told the the amount of work needed upstream of the rear is prohibitive. The ECU and TCU will crap out I guess as tory told me. Makes sense I guess. I've honestly been checking around for a 2nd C43 diff. I was considering sending phantom grip an extra diff over the winter. If it blows up I will still have the original. $499 is pretty sweet even if it is a kleemann clone.
Id would be easier to get a diff from a W208 CLK430, they are the same ratio and housing as a C43.

The problem with using an CLK55/E55 diff center is that it has a 2.82 ratio as opposed to the C43 3.06 ratio, the housing is larger/different mounts and the yoke for the flex coupling has 4 arms instead of 3 (could probably just swap them, not sure if there is another difference). The different diff ratio would also require TCU reprogramming.

If you can find a 2nd diff then I might try the phantom grip kit, here is Australia any 2nd hand parts for benz's are either too expensive or useless/damaged. I was quoted $6000AUD/$4500US for just a E55 long block with 150,000kms

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