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Why are the C43 and C36 Gas Milages Similar??

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Old 10-21-2009, 06:37 PM
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I've never had an AMG motor burn oil... if you are going through lots of oil there may be a problem. Even after 5k, virtually zero oil loss.
Its one thing "burning oil" like an old "regular" car does with the Blue smoke coming out the tailpipe, BUT, its another thing on a High Performance engine when it is designed like that.. You are talking about 2 totally different things here... Almost all AMG engines will burn some oil when pushed hard, If you ask me I think the designers did this so when pushing the engine hard it uses a very little amount of oil to lubricate the cylinder walls and rings under that massive amount of power/stress being created at that moment, Hence why AMG engines are pretty much bulletproof and can take high revving all their life without any problems. Its actually pretty neat.
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Originally Posted by BenzMaster19
Its one thing "burning oil" like an old "regular" car does with the Blue smoke coming out the tailpipe, BUT, its another thing on a High Performance engine when it is designed like that.. You are talking about 2 totally different things here... Almost all AMG engines will burn some oil when pushed hard, If you ask me I think the designers did this so when pushing the engine hard it uses a very little amount of oil to lubricate the cylinder walls and rings under that massive amount of power/stress being created at that moment, Hence why AMG engines are pretty much bulletproof and can take high revving all their life without any problems. Its actually pretty neat.

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if you drive it hard every now and then you'll go through some oil
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Also, on the issue of fuel mileage, I filled up the C36 tonight and my previous tank of gas averaged 19.6 MPG.
Mostly city and 50mph state highway driving. A few short (10-15 miles) interstate trips in there at 80mph.

Maybe 2 or 3 WOT runs through 2nd gear.
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Ahh leave it to Paul to stay on topic!!! Just kiddingggg! Although I must admit that through all of that severe deviation I've learned a lot throughout these three pages, met some pretty cool people, and am hooked on finding my AMG!

Almost 20-MPG?! That's better than my 18-19mpg avg with the 300E , I'm jealous but excited.Just got a receipt at the pump the other day after filling her up and jotted the mileage down, so we'll see what numbers the colder weather will bring. Also, on the way home from school the 6th cyl stopped igniting, the wires checked out, but the spark plugs told the story. Most all of them had a crusty buildup (I'm thinking burnt coolant?) I scraped the crap off and wire brushed them. The 6th cyl plug was just a mess, crud buildup and the sweet smell of a gasoline drenched plug. Cleaned it up and she runs fine. Note that these are non resistor type NGK's ordered from Europe. I'm thinking there's a bit of coolant getting in there.
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The M113 V8's have been know to get great fuel economy under reasonable conditions. Even with the AC on, almost 29 MPG on the open road is not unheard of. In mind numbing stop and go commutes the economy can fall to the low to mid-20's.

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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
yup those new engines are getting very eficient, and even at 20mpg in stop and go for a 4.3 is still gr8. ↲the car makes 280 hp same as the 36 AMG and still uses less fuel. When my W124 boosted on the CIS its best was 12 mpg and usually i wouldnt see more than 8, and all i was making is 320hp at best.
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Just a quick update fellas!

I will be going out to look at the first example in my search for a C36 this upcomming weekend. I'll let you know how it turns out, hopefully it won't sell. Really hoping it'll be a keeper, keep your fingers crossed!
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Originally Posted by appatula
Just a quick update fellas!

I will be going out to look at the first example in my search for a C36 this upcomming weekend. I'll let you know how it turns out, hopefully it won't sell. Really hoping it'll be a keeper, keep your fingers crossed!
good luck man. Hope its a clean one.
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Originally Posted by appatula
Just a quick update fellas!

I will be going out to look at the first example in my search for a C36 this upcomming weekend. I'll let you know how it turns out, hopefully it won't sell. Really hoping it'll be a keeper, keep your fingers crossed!
Let us know how it goes!
Hopefully it will be a good one...
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Thanks guys! This willl be my first time behind the wheel of one and I'm not sure what to expect, that is, a guy comming from an old W124. I really hope its solid as well! Its got 140K on the clock, so if it has been pampered (the way it should have been) and everything "feels" right I'll whip out my crawler and start critiquing the undercarriage.

This is really the last thing I needed to have on my mind with finals next week! I am sooooo looking forward to it though.
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Originally Posted by appatula
Thanks guys! This willl be my first time behind the wheel of one and I'm not sure what to expect, that is, a guy comming from an old W124. I really hope its solid as well! Its got 140K on the clock, so if it has been pampered (the way it should have been) and everything "feels" right I'll whip out my crawler and start critiquing the undercarriage.

This is really the last thing I needed to have on my mind with finals next week! I am sooooo looking forward to it though.
You will LOVE the C36 AMG. I have driven so many cars, and this is definitly without a doubt my keeper. Period.
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Originally Posted by appatula
Thanks guys! This willl be my first time behind the wheel of one and I'm not sure what to expect, that is, a guy comming from an old W124. I really hope its solid as well! Its got 140K on the clock, so if it has been pampered (the way it should have been) and everything "feels" right I'll whip out my crawler and start critiquing the undercarriage.

This is really the last thing I needed to have on my mind with finals next week! I am sooooo looking forward to it though.
I'm sure you've done your research but....

Make sure the wiring harness has been done if it's a 95 or 96. Check the head gasket regardless of year. If it's a 5 speed, check the transmission for leaks or weeps and make sure it shifts ok.

As you know, I went from a 300E to a C36, a few years in the 300E should give you a good idea of if the C36 is "happy" or not...they're surprisingly similar despite being totally different. lol
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Originally Posted by PaulRicciardi
I'm sure you've done your research but....

Make sure the wiring harness has been done if it's a 95 or 96. Check the head gasket regardless of year. If it's a 5 speed, check the transmission for leaks or weeps and make sure it shifts ok.

As you know, I went from a 300E to a C36, a few years in the 300E should give you a good idea of if the C36 is "happy" or not...they're surprisingly similar despite being totally different. lol
Paul,
Thanks for the heads up! I'm very aware of the M104 headgaskets and the biodegradable wiring harnesses. Not sure if the harness has been done on this one but I will keep a keen eye out. I'm quite handy with a soldering iron and don't see how rebuilding a harness would be too much of an issue. Headgasket I could also tackle. The transmission I hope is the earlier 4-speed version that is bulletproof. I don't need the headaches I've been reading about the driver adaptive 5 speeds!


Thanks again everyone!
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Got it!

Its got a few scratches and dings (condolences of NY drivers) but mechanically it is mint. The PO replaced the wiring harness, injectors, throttle actuator, cats, ECU, MAF, belt tensioner, alternator, shocks (bilstein sports), bushings, etc. The list is VERY LONG. Only things that need attention are the neutral safety switch (any advice, I hear its a pain to get to) alignment, and some touch up paint here and there.

The Prev owner did a wonderful job sourcing euro parts and keeping the car true to its AMG heratige. It has the the euro AMG window shades for the rear door windows and rear window. He also sourced this FANTASTIC harmon/kardon radio that he said was a european option. It has neat GPS feature as well, quite advanced for a 1995. Also good to hear Reds are a bit rarer, Imperial Red for the win!! What a fantastic drive home!!


I am soo happy!


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Looks good man, congrats on the purchase, you'll love her!
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Looks good man, congrats on the purchase, you'll love her!
Thanks Paul! I allready love it, can't wait till its registered. Still have yet to open her up all the way to the kickdown!
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Mine doesnt burn any oil either with Mobil 1 0W-40 and I have 160,000 Miles,,, as long as its MB approved your good Hey is your mid-5 second 0-60 time Stock?
Both my cars are bonestock. Maybe its the Denso iridium plugs in my C36. Runs 14sec @100 in the 1/4. Strong C36 indeed. But compared to my Clk55 its a slug.
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Both my cars are bonestock. Maybe its the Denso iridium plugs in my C36. Runs 14sec @100 in the 1/4. Strong C36 indeed. But compared to my Clk55 its a slug.
I'll have to pick a set up!
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Both my cars are bonestock. Maybe its the Denso iridium plugs in my C36. Runs 14sec @100 in the 1/4. Strong C36 indeed. But compared to my Clk55 its a slug.
A 14 second quarter mile stock?! thats awesome!! Your getting much better then the 14.4 times that they should be getting stock. These C36's are awesome!
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Congrats on that rare C36 AMG purchase!!!! You'll fall in love with her (thats if you didn't already! lol)
Shes a Beauty, give her a nice detailing in and out, and change the oil to Mobil 1 0W-40 full synth European car formula, only use the best Premium fuel available in your area (if theres cleaning additives in the fuel thats even better!) NOTHING less or you will build up a lot of carbon over time in the engine and loose performance. You can also add a bottle of sea-foam to the gas aswell, change out the air filter (stick to OEM) change out the spark plugs, fuel filter, do a tranny flush (with proper OEM fluid only), a differential fluid change, and make sure your wires etc.. are all good.
You should start a fresh thread with some clean shots of her! it will look amazing!
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Congrats on that rare C36 AMG purchase!!!! You'll fall in love with her (thats if you didn't already! lol)
Shes a Beauty, give her a nice detailing in and out, and change the oil to Mobil 1 0W-40 full synth European car formula, only use the best Premium fuel available in your area (if theres cleaning additives in the fuel thats even better!) NOTHING less or you will build up a lot of carbon over time in the engine and loose performance. You can also add a bottle of sea-foam to the gas aswell, change out the air filter (stick to OEM) change out the spark plugs, fuel filter, do a tranny flush (with proper OEM fluid only), a differential fluid change, and make sure your wires etc.. are all good.
You should start a fresh thread with some clean shots of her! it will look amazing!
Thanks! Plugs, coil packs, and trans fluid (redline) have been replaced. Royal Purp brake fluid, SS lines as well. The guy I bought it from sourced German Made castrol oil from europe and that was all he put in it. (The bottle actually said made in germany, I'll take a picture later).
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Originally Posted by BenzMaster19
A 14 second quarter mile stock?! thats awesome!! Your getting much better then the 14.4 times that they should be getting stock. These C36's are awesome!
Yeah the mag times were new engines. AMG motors open up at the 100k mile mark!
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Yeah the mag times were new engines. AMG motors open up at the 100k mile mark!
Just a thought, Monoblock II's are super heavy. I had a C36 Mono setup on my 300E and when I put my stock wheels with snow tires the car was much more peppy. I bet those times would be even better with some lighter wheels?
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Just a thought, Monoblock II's are super heavy. I had a C36 Mono setup on my 300E and when I put my stock wheels with snow tires the car was much more peppy. I bet those times would be even better with some lighter wheels?
Don't know how valid this is, but the Monoblocks are advertised as "LIGHT" but again, don't know actually how light, or if it really reduces performance either..
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Originally Posted by Jons95c36amg
Yeah the mag times were new engines. AMG motors open up at the 100k mile mark!
I see, and yeah I knew that the AMG's somewhat open up later on in life, but this is plain awesome! Hey going back to your 0-60 times,, by mid 5 seconds do you mean around 5.5 secondish? or a little higher or lower then that?


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