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Old 01-12-2010, 12:51 PM
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
666 what the hell does it come with a devil as well! Mine has the clips broken and i wanted to get a new one.
Now i wouldnt even bother, if any thing ill make one out of SS and i bet it will work just as well.
paul try and search for one used but if u dont find one just make one, cause im sure what u have now is robbing u of much needed HP.

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There's a close up
it's just a 6 inch wide cone filter with a CF heat shield-it's similar to the gruppe M but different. Didn't cost me nearly as much. The filter, as you can see, is situated in the open stock air box. The stock box draws in air both from behind the grille and from the lower front fender; I figured that is a pretty good setup so I didn't change it. The filter feeds to a 3" aluminum pipe which simply hooks up to the stock MAF.

From the MAF back is all stock. The black intake part that goes over the engine is what came on the car when I bought it. I know there is a version with an "AMG" and "3.6" printing. Is that any larger than what's on my car? Is the plain black version on my car from a 280? I haven't changed that part of the intake so as far as I know it's stock.

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Ok this is a real C36 AMG crossover pipe, you can clearly see the difference in size from yours here, this one is atleast 3 times more larger (height wise) then yours. If you do indeed have a C280 crossover pipe you are most likely loosing a good amount of horses simply because the 3.6 can't suck in the proper amount of air threw a much smaller intake.
It's VERY easy for dealers to give C280 crossovers to there customers especially when the 'previous" owner doesn't know any better!
I would get the proper one if I were you.

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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
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Ok this is a real C36 AMG crossover pipe, you can clearly see the difference in size from yours here, this one is atleast 3 times more larger (height wise) then yours. If you do indeed have a C280 crossover pipe you are most likely loosing a good amount of horses simply because the 3.6 can't suck in the proper amount of air threw a much smaller intake.
It's VERY easy for dealers to give C280 crossovers to there customers especially when the 'previous" owner doesn't know any better!
I would get the proper one if I were you.
Is that ur car? cause i bet u have no idea how much power ur missing just cause the car sucks in hot air!
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Paul was the CF box a custom job you had done? Or from a company? Interested in this....




BTW going to polish the face next and take some pics. Then flat black versions come next. Stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by jayrasheed
Is that ur car? cause i bet u have no idea how much power ur missing just cause the car sucks in hot air!
Umm no, that is NOT mine,, I ain't that stupid to put an open cone filter right near the hottest part of the engine A.K.A the exhaust! LOL!
The stock configuration sucks in cold air from the outside, and that's good enough! I was just showing you the difference in a proper crossover pipe on a C36 AMG compared to that small one you have from a C280.

HERE is mine!


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looks pristine man.
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Looking super sharp man!! Deft post those in the picture thread if you have not allready. What motor oil do you use? Brand? Weight? I'm worried as to what I should put in it as the po use mobile 1 racing which he said they don't make any more. He switched to a special castrol that is made in Germany and unfortunatley that isn't someething I can get locally.
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
those AMG badges look sweet i want one for the engine and the small bumper one!
As for oil use mobil1 0w40. Its still the best and make sure u dont go much over 6k km between changes.
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Thanks guys!! and yeah I will definitely post some pics up in that thread.
You should do the same Appatula! we're still awaiting those pics of your new red C36 AMG! :P
As for oil, Jayrasheed is absolutely correct, stick with Mobil 1 0W-40 Full Synthetic European Formula,, It has the performance, cleaning agents, Full wear protection, and "all season" engine protection that meets M-B standards, is recommended in all AMG engines, and is factory fill at AMG today aswell. You definitely cannot go wrong with this oil, I have friends using it on there AMG's, I use it on both my 202's ('95 C280 and the C36 AMG) and I could not be happier! the engines look brand spanking new, run like a dream, and they run soo smoooth, and as Jay said, I wouldn't go much over 6-7K kilometers between changes,, even though this oil can go 10K easily, its soo cheap to replace the oil a little earlier knowing you have fresh clean oil in your AMG engine threw most of its life, and you can drive it hard/have fun with it knowing its protected, and make sure you use a M-B oil filter only.
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Originally Posted by jayrasheed
those AMG badges look sweet i want one for the engine and the small bumper one!
As for oil use mobil1 0w40. Its still the best and make sure u dont go much over 6k km between changes.
Thanks Jay! Once I get the paint issue resolved I'll let you know for sure. Is the 0w40 weight sufficient for the winter and summers here in new England USA? Winters usually never dip under zero degrees farenheight and summers are usually in the 90s on the hottest days. Thanks!!!!
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
ya gr8 i am not in much hurry.
As for the oil i dont think u would need anything better a rating of 0w40 should cover it. But do search the net for whats used usually in such locations.
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Thanks Jay! Once I get the paint issue resolved I'll let you know for sure. Is the 0w40 weight sufficient for the winter and summers here in new England USA? Winters usually never dip under zero degrees farenheight and summers are usually in the 90s on the hottest days. Thanks!!!!
Yeah the 0W-40 weight is the best you can get for winter protection, and the highest you should really go for summer aswell.. A 50 weight is a bit too thick, and unnecessary.
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Sounds like I'll be buying Mobile 1 0w40! Always enjoy learning from the best!
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Yup I've got Mobil 1 0W40 in mine

as far as the intake goes, type in "Carbon fiber heat shield" on ebay and you should find it. The entire intake is DIY, I can PM you a list of parts if you want

Also, anyone have an idea where I can get the 3.6 crossover? Went through my entire service history binder last night and found a record in March of 2007 of "replace intake manifold and crossover" so I figure that's where the problem was...grrrr

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You guys really missed out on all my good parts huh? I sold my 3.6 amg crossover pipe for 100 haha.
As for the engine emblem and intake....
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Originally Posted by AMGC
You guys really missed out on all my good parts huh? I sold my 3.6 amg crossover pipe for 100 haha.
As for the engine emblem and intake....
Well I know the CF intake is on your 16v since I messaged you about it a few weeks ago.
Didn't know you had a crossover for sale...damn
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
Originally Posted by PaulRicciardi
Yup I've got Mobil 1 0W40 in mine

as far as the intake goes, type in "Carbon fiber heat shield" on ebay and you should find it. The entire intake is DIY, I can PM you a list of parts if you want

Also, anyone have an idea where I can get the 3.6 crossover? Went through my entire service history binder last night and found a record in March of 2007 of "replace intake manifold and crossover" so I figure that's where the problem was...grrrr
Paul my man you are in for a headache now.!!
M104 3.6 AMGs and althou they are bored and stroked M104 2.8s use the manifold from the 320 engine, so make sure ur car has the proper part number. I hope the dealer did know this fact back then and installed the 3.2 Manifold.
Official AMG doc says:
The Upper intake manifold is from engine 104.992, (M104E32) is modified for use on the 3.6 liter engine.


So it seems even that has some modifications, thou i bet they r external.
No i got to go check whats on my car. Argh i am worried.
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Originally Posted by jayrasheed
Paul my man you are in for a headache now.!!
M104 3.6 AMGs and althou they are bored and stroked M104 2.8s use the manifold from the 320 engine, so make sure ur car has the proper part number. I hope the dealer did know this fact back then and installed the 3.2 Manifold.
Official AMG doc says:
The Upper intake manifold is from engine 104.992, (M104E32) is modified for use on the 3.6 liter engine.


So it seems even that has some modifications, thou i bet they r external.
No i got to go check whats on my car. Argh i am worried.
Jay-
The part number on my intake manifold reads:
104 140 44 01

is that correct?
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where do u see it on the manifold so i can check mine and report?
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I'll try and do the same.
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
ok found it and its 104 140 39 01 so now the mind **** begins!!
We need to know what a 280c m104 has.

I am hoping the 140 in the part number means its of the W140 s class 320
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You guys really missed out on all my good parts huh? I sold my 3.6 amg crossover pipe for 100 haha.
As for the engine emblem and intake....
Greg, that engine emblem does not look original, do you have any closer shots? It looks like the original was replaced with one of those transfer emblems on ebay. As from what I can see in the photo the letters are not on a solid background each is a separate piece. This could just be an illusion because the background was also painted red and blends in? Just curious.....and boy does that gruppe M CAI look SWEET, wish I had nabbed that.
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1995 C 36 AMG; 1992 W124 300E (M103 Ex Mosselman TT KIT) was 320hp @10psi now stock :(
Ben,
plz chech the pn on ur intake manifold. Its easy to find on the right front side u cant miss it


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