Front Apron Fog Light DIY Repair/Troubleshooting
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Nice, lets get a bit more confused..... as I love this thread!
In Europe, some years back the light and fogs worked like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on (as you seem to call them over there)
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights off
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light off
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
Today the rule is like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights still on
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light also on
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
So how does that get you
In Europe, some years back the light and fogs worked like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on (as you seem to call them over there)
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights off
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light off
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
Today the rule is like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights still on
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light also on
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
So how does that get you
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Nice, lets get a bit more confused..... as I love this thread!
In Europe, some years back the light and fogs worked like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on (as you seem to call them over there)
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights off
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light off
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
Today the rule is like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights still on
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light also on
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
So how does that get you
In Europe, some years back the light and fogs worked like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on (as you seem to call them over there)
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights off
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light off
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
Today the rule is like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights still on
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light also on
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
So how does that get you
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Nice, lets get a bit more confused..... as I love this thread!
In Europe, some years back the light and fogs worked like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on (as you seem to call them over there)
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights off
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light off
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
Today the rule is like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights still on
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light also on
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
So how does that get you
In Europe, some years back the light and fogs worked like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on (as you seem to call them over there)
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights off
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light off
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
Today the rule is like this:
1st position: parking light or side marker lights on
2nd position: driving lights on
1st pull: fog lights turned on and driving lights still on
2nd pull: rear fog light turned on front fog lights still on and driving light also on
Indicator stalk pushed forward: main road hi-beam driving light on
So how does that get you
You already have front fogs fitted they are in the headlights and come on with the first clic out of the main light switch, with a 43 these front fogs are disabled and the feeds are fed to the ones in the bumper.
To fit them in the bumper you will need to fit either C36 or C43 front bumper c/w with fog lights and 2 wiring looms which just plug into the headlight to get the fog light feed.
SO TO END THIS THREAD, I was right the C43 works just like I explained and I guess the C36 is different or YOUR switch is wrong. Either way we now have 3 confirmations that my switch is wired correctly
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So this is exactly how mine work... I thought someone may of changed how the switch works but then I found this on another forum :
You already have front fogs fitted they are in the headlights and come on with the first clic out of the main light switch, with a 43 these front fogs are disabled and the feeds are fed to the ones in the bumper.
To fit them in the bumper you will need to fit either C36 or C43 front bumper c/w with fog lights and 2 wiring looms which just plug into the headlight to get the fog light feed.
SO TO END THIS THREAD, I was right the C43 works just like I explained and I guess the C36 is different or YOUR switch is wrong. Either way we now have 3 confirmations that my switch is wired correctly
You already have front fogs fitted they are in the headlights and come on with the first clic out of the main light switch, with a 43 these front fogs are disabled and the feeds are fed to the ones in the bumper.
To fit them in the bumper you will need to fit either C36 or C43 front bumper c/w with fog lights and 2 wiring looms which just plug into the headlight to get the fog light feed.
SO TO END THIS THREAD, I was right the C43 works just like I explained and I guess the C36 is different or YOUR switch is wrong. Either way we now have 3 confirmations that my switch is wired correctly
"1.) "high beam headlamps" = yellow lights next to the low beam in the head light 2.) "combination switch" = "stalk" 3.) first pull = "front fog lights in apron"
Your high beams should not be yellow, if your low beams are not yellow how are your high beams going to be a different color when they are the same exact bulb just separate filaments inside the bulb?
First pull activates fogs in headlamp. ALL of the W202 books I scanned in do say so
. Many states in the USA are required to have lower fogs connected into the tail lamp circuit anyway. (I can link you to some statutes) So unless this other forum can somehow give a legitimate explanation or reason why this is different, I'm inclined to go by the books, nothing personal brah. Please post the link as I would like to figure out why this is so confusing.
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Not pointing any fingers here but I don't care how many people on other forums tell you otherwise, both of my W202 MB Manuals do not agree with you here "
Your high beams should not be yellow, if your low beams are not yellow how are your high beams going to be a different color when they are the same exact bulb just separate filaments inside the bulb?
First pull activates fogs in headlamp. ALL of the W202 books I scanned in do say so. Many states in the USA are required to have lower fogs connected into the tail lamp circuit anyway. (I can link you to some statutes) So unless this other forum can somehow give a legitimate explanation or reason why this is different, I'm inclined to go by the books, nothing personal brah. Please post the link as I would like to figure out why this is so confusing.
Your high beams should not be yellow, if your low beams are not yellow how are your high beams going to be a different color when they are the same exact bulb just separate filaments inside the bulb?
First pull activates fogs in headlamp. ALL of the W202 books I scanned in do say so
. Many states in the USA are required to have lower fogs connected into the tail lamp circuit anyway. (I can link you to some statutes) So unless this other forum can somehow give a legitimate explanation or reason why this is different, I'm inclined to go by the books, nothing personal brah. Please post the link as I would like to figure out why this is so confusing.
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OMG I THOUGHT YOU WERE RUNNING STOCK HEADLAMPS! Non of this applies then, were comparing the stock MB halogen setup to the retrofitted HID setup that you have!!! Doh!
EDIT: I NEVER knew HIDs were a stock option! Just googled it, I want them!
anyways apples to oranges, just noticed it in your sig to! Still REALLY weird how the factory manuals are contradicting? wtf?
The stock C36 MB setup does not allow you to have the fogs next to the hi/low beam on with the lower apron/tail fogs most likley due to jurisdictional laws in the US. I know Cali has some stringent laws in general. CT statute allows you to have at most two fog light systems illuminated in the front along with low-beams. Some states require fogs to be wired into the tail lamp circuit as well. I'm pretty sure It is unlawful to have hi-beams on at anytime with fogs, newer cars I think actually cut out the fogs when high beams are switched on, you can actually fail inspection in some states if they do not switch off
. Stupid if you ask me, the more light the better just as long as you are considerate of other drivers at night right?
EDIT: I NEVER knew HIDs were a stock option! Just googled it, I want them!
anyways apples to oranges, just noticed it in your sig to!
Still REALLY weird how the factory manuals are contradicting? wtf?The stock C36 MB setup does not allow you to have the fogs next to the hi/low beam on with the lower apron/tail fogs most likley due to jurisdictional laws in the US. I know Cali has some stringent laws in general. CT statute allows you to have at most two fog light systems illuminated in the front along with low-beams. Some states require fogs to be wired into the tail lamp circuit as well. I'm pretty sure It is unlawful to have hi-beams on at anytime with fogs, newer cars I think actually cut out the fogs when high beams are switched on, you can actually fail inspection in some states if they do not switch off
. Stupid if you ask me, the more light the better just as long as you are considerate of other drivers at night right?
Last edited by appatula; Jun 17, 2010 at 08:43 AM.
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OMG I THOUGHT YOU WERE RUNNING STOCK HEADLAMPS! Non of this applies then, were comparing the stock MB halogen setup to the retrofitted HID setup that you have!!! Doh!
EDIT: I NEVER knew HIDs were a stock option! Just googled it, I want them!
anyways apples to oranges, just noticed it in your sig to! Still REALLY weird how the factory manuals are contradicting? wtf?
The stock C36 MB setup does not allow you to have the fogs next to the hi/low beam on with the lower apron/tail fogs most likley due to jurisdictional laws in the US. I know Cali has some stringent laws in general. CT statute allows you to have at most two fog light systems illuminated in the front along with low-beams. Some states require fogs to be wired into the tail lamp circuit as well. I'm pretty sure It is unlawful to have hi-beams on at anytime with fogs, newer cars I think actually cut out the fogs when high beams are switched on, you can actually fail inspection in some states if they do not switch off. Stupid if you ask me, the more light the better just as long as you are considerate of other drivers at night right?
EDIT: I NEVER knew HIDs were a stock option! Just googled it, I want them!
anyways apples to oranges, just noticed it in your sig to!
Still REALLY weird how the factory manuals are contradicting? wtf?The stock C36 MB setup does not allow you to have the fogs next to the hi/low beam on with the lower apron/tail fogs most likley due to jurisdictional laws in the US. I know Cali has some stringent laws in general. CT statute allows you to have at most two fog light systems illuminated in the front along with low-beams. Some states require fogs to be wired into the tail lamp circuit as well. I'm pretty sure It is unlawful to have hi-beams on at anytime with fogs, newer cars I think actually cut out the fogs when high beams are switched on, you can actually fail inspection in some states if they do not switch off
. Stupid if you ask me, the more light the better just as long as you are considerate of other drivers at night right?
I'm not quite sure of the laws regarding fog lights and such here in Oregon but I have yet to be pulled over and I roll around with my fogs on RELIGIOUSLY now that I have converted my fogs to HID. I also don't have a front license plate and I KNOW thats a no no 
as they want to be able to ticket you using photo radar
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Headlight fogs are the inner lights that illuminate in your headlight housing (the yellow ones, yup). The high/low beam is one bulb, you can have only either or on, its the outer light in the housing. I don't seem to be able to get my headlights (high or low), foglights, and Apron fogs to illuminate all at once. It is either headlights and fogs, or headlights and apron fogs. It this strange? My manual seems to concur.
It looks like that Appatula's headlight housing is different since he says that there are only 2 "distinct" bulbs in the housing namely: Low/High Beam and Fog light. The low/high beam shares 1 bulb by having 2 filaments in 1 bulb. In Euro specs, you cannot use the fog lamps if you turn on the High Beam similar to the ones in W124.
Maybe Mercedes Benz has created 2 different versions of headlight housings to accommodate laws that are applicable to each state. I am not creating an argument here. Just my observation.
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I checked my car's manual. I have a stock 2000 C230 Kompressor Sport (No HID) and the headlight housing consists of 3 "distinct" bulbs namely: Low Beam - H7 (55w), High Beam - H1 (55w), and Fog Lamp - H1 (55w). The fog lamp is located just below the Low Beam and the High Beam is placed where Appatula says where the fogs is located. I tried turning them on ALL at the same time and they did, same as 503C43 has said.
It looks like that Appatula's headlight housing is different since he says that there are only 2 "distinct" bulbs in the housing namely: Low/High Beam and Fog light. The low/high beam shares 1 bulb by having 2 filaments in 1 bulb. In Euro specs, you cannot use the fog lamps if you turn on the High Beam similar to the ones in W124.
Maybe Mercedes Benz has created 2 different versions of headlight housings to accommodate laws that are applicable to each state. I am not creating an argument here. Just my observation.
It looks like that Appatula's headlight housing is different since he says that there are only 2 "distinct" bulbs in the housing namely: Low/High Beam and Fog light. The low/high beam shares 1 bulb by having 2 filaments in 1 bulb. In Euro specs, you cannot use the fog lamps if you turn on the High Beam similar to the ones in W124.
Maybe Mercedes Benz has created 2 different versions of headlight housings to accommodate laws that are applicable to each state. I am not creating an argument here. Just my observation.
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Thanks buddy! I was also thinking on the production years but I was not sure on Appatula's car model now that you brought it up. Looks like MB used the 2-light housing for the models 94-97 and the 3-light housing for models 98-00 when they introduced the W202 with factory skirts.
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Thanks buddy! I was also thinking on the production years but I was not sure on Appatula's car model now that you brought it up. Looks like MB used the 2-light housing for the models 94-97 and the 3-light housing for models 98-00 when they introduced the W202 with factory skirts.
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Still, my 1999 C280 had the same setup as my 95 C36? It was purley stock. The 1999 W202 manual also confirms the same setup on corresponding C230 KOMPRESSOR, C280, and C43 AMG. I mean I can't call anyone a liar as it obviously is what it is but my car functions according to the updated 202 99' USA owners manual, (Press time 09/30/98 MBNA/TI/). These things make me crazy!
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If someone posts a picture from the headlamp switch section of the C43 owner's manual, this could be put to bed.
BTW, with the exception of the CLK's green indicator lamp, the 1995 C36 manual reads the exact same as the 2002 CLK manual.
BTW, with the exception of the CLK's green indicator lamp, the 1995 C36 manual reads the exact same as the 2002 CLK manual.
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Still, my 1999 C280 had the same setup as my 95 C36? It was purley stock. The 1999 W202 manual also confirms the same setup on corresponding C230 KOMPRESSOR, C280, and C43 AMG. I mean I can't call anyone a liar as it obviously is what it is but my car functions according to the updated 202 99' USA owners manual, (Press time 09/30/98 MBNA/TI/). These things make me crazy!
Good job to ALL for the inputs!
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I will today after I get off work....
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https://mbworld.org/forums/4101778-post21.html
I still think the manuals side with me but others claim that they are not accurate?
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I did, I did! Both manuals, the pre 1999 W202 and post manual. One includes the C36 and other, the C43.
https://mbworld.org/forums/4101778-post21.html
I still think the manuals side with me but others claim that they are not accurate?
https://mbworld.org/forums/4101778-post21.html
I still think the manuals side with me but others claim that they are not accurate?
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The manual does not mention fogs in either version, however, it is assumed that the apron fogs are (should be) tied into the same circuit as the rear taillight fogs. This was how AMG wired them at the factory according to the WIS. Which means unless I can somehow manage to have my selector switch in both first and second "pull out" positions it should be impossible to have all fogs on at the same time. Even if this were not the case the rear fogs and front fogs cannot be on at the same time on a stock W202 and AMG (according to the manual) so if you were to add an apron with fogs they will have to go on one of the fog circuits, not both, still meaning one or the other is on at the same time not both. I'm just going to stick to the book on this one, it seems to work as it should and my sylvania silverstar Hi's are more than enough for even the darkest roads.
As for the 2-bulb and 3-bulb housings, still yet, the manual mentions only two bulbs. Even check your car/year on the Sylvania bulb fitment site, see what you get and post back.
As for the 2-bulb and 3-bulb housings, still yet, the manual mentions only two bulbs. Even check your car/year on the Sylvania bulb fitment site, see what you get and post back.
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The manual does not mention fogs in either version, however, it is assumed that the apron fogs are (should be) tied into the same circuit as the rear taillight fogs. This was how AMG wired them at the factory according to the WIS. Which means unless I can somehow manage to have my selector switch in both first and second "pull out" positions it should be impossible to have all fogs on at the same time. Even if this were not the case the rear fogs and front fogs cannot be on at the same time on a stock W202 and AMG (according to the manual) so if you were to add an apron with fogs they will have to go on one of the fog circuits, not both, still meaning one or the other is on at the same time not both. I'm just going to stick to the book on this one, it seems to work as it should and my sylvania silverstar Hi's are more than enough for even the darkest roads.
As for the 2-bulb and 3-bulb housings, still yet, the manual mentions only two bulbs. Even check your car/year on the Sylvania bulb fitment site, see what you get and post back.
As for the 2-bulb and 3-bulb housings, still yet, the manual mentions only two bulbs. Even check your car/year on the Sylvania bulb fitment site, see what you get and post back.
Refer to nos. 8, 9 & 10 in the image for the electrical connectors for the 3 distinct bulbs. Although manual does not state so, I can turn ALL the bulbs ON at the same time.
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Very good! That is the post 1998 manual that I am missing . Confirms the 3 bulb setup for HID setups right? Although you can have low beam, high beam, and foglights inside your headlight housing all on at the same time, my original point still stands. You should NOT be able to have apron fogs and taillight fogs on WITH the fogs in the headlight housing. Please check your manual to confirm this, first pull on selector switch is headlight fogs, second pull is rear fogs (and or apron fogs for AMG)? Wondering if the OEM HID setup has a different selector switch setup at this point....
. Confirms the 3 bulb setup for HID setups right? Although you can have low beam, high beam, and foglights inside your headlight housing all on at the same time, my original point still stands. You should NOT be able to have apron fogs and taillight fogs on WITH the fogs in the headlight housing. Please check your manual to confirm this, first pull on selector switch is headlight fogs, second pull is rear fogs (and or apron fogs for AMG)? Wondering if the OEM HID setup has a different selector switch setup at this point....
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Very good! That is the post 1998 manual that I am missing . Confirms the 3 bulb setup for HID setups right? Although you can have low beam, high beam, and foglights inside your headlight housing all on at the same time, my original point still stands. You should NOT be able to have apron fogs and taillight fogs on WITH the fogs in the headlight housing. Please check your manual to confirm this, first pull on selector switch is headlight fogs, second pull is rear fogs (and or apron fogs for AMG)? Wondering if the OEM HID setup has a different selector switch setup at this point....
. Confirms the 3 bulb setup for HID setups right? Although you can have low beam, high beam, and foglights inside your headlight housing all on at the same time, my original point still stands. You should NOT be able to have apron fogs and taillight fogs on WITH the fogs in the headlight housing. Please check your manual to confirm this, first pull on selector switch is headlight fogs, second pull is rear fogs (and or apron fogs for AMG)? Wondering if the OEM HID setup has a different selector switch setup at this point....
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This has gone all over the place and way off topic. We were comparing HID setups with regular filament setups. Three bulbs all on at the same time? Absolutley, your manual confirms that.
Lets ask this, can you have your high beams, low beams, fog light, AND the rear fogs on ALL at the same time?
This was the original problem I pointed out way back in the thread to 503C43 before going off on tangents. When I switch my rear fogs on (second pull on switch), it disables the foglights in the headlight and turns on my apron fogs as well. Another forum member's C36 did the same thing. The manual states first pull is fogs, second is rear fogs. I assume this means BOTH cannot be on at the same time? My W124 worked the same way my C36 does. WAYYY back in the thread 503C43 said his does not function like this all this other stuff was brought up after the fact and was dissimilar to my setup therefore creating further mass confusion.
Lets ask this, can you have your high beams, low beams, fog light, AND the rear fogs on ALL at the same time?
This was the original problem I pointed out way back in the thread to 503C43 before going off on tangents. When I switch my rear fogs on (second pull on switch), it disables the foglights in the headlight and turns on my apron fogs as well. Another forum member's C36 did the same thing. The manual states first pull is fogs, second is rear fogs. I assume this means BOTH cannot be on at the same time? My W124 worked the same way my C36 does. WAYYY back in the thread 503C43 said his does not function like this all this other stuff was brought up after the fact and was dissimilar to my setup therefore creating further mass confusion.
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This has gone all over the place and way off topic. We were comparing HID setups with regular filament setups. Three bulbs all on at the same time? Absolutley, your manual confirms that.
Lets ask this, can you have your high beams, low beams, fog light, AND the rear fogs on ALL at the same time?
This was the original problem I pointed out way back in the thread to 503C43 before going off on tangents. When I switch my rear fogs on (second pull on switch), it disables the foglights in the headlight and turns on my apron fogs as well. Another forum member's C36 did the same thing. The manual states first pull is fogs, second is rear fogs. I assume this means BOTH cannot be on at the same time? My W124 worked the same way my C36 does. WAYYY back in the thread 503C43 said his does not function like this all this other stuff was brought up after the fact and was dissimilar to my setup therefore creating further mass confusion.
Lets ask this, can you have your high beams, low beams, fog light, AND the rear fogs on ALL at the same time?
This was the original problem I pointed out way back in the thread to 503C43 before going off on tangents. When I switch my rear fogs on (second pull on switch), it disables the foglights in the headlight and turns on my apron fogs as well. Another forum member's C36 did the same thing. The manual states first pull is fogs, second is rear fogs. I assume this means BOTH cannot be on at the same time? My W124 worked the same way my C36 does. WAYYY back in the thread 503C43 said his does not function like this all this other stuff was brought up after the fact and was dissimilar to my setup therefore creating further mass confusion.
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