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Old May 19, 2011 | 03:45 PM
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ADV5.1 19" 17 lbs each will they fit?

will adv5.1 rims that are 19x8.5 225/35/19 and 19x9.5 265/30/19 fit on my car? it is dropped 1.2". Also what kind of offset would I need in front and back? I was thinking 30mm front and 35 in back.

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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
will adv5.1 rims that are 19x8.5 225/35/19 and 19x9.5 265/30/19 fit on my car? it is dropped 1.2". Also what kind of offset would I need in front and back? I was thinking 30mm front and 35 in back.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...EofQsAPuqtSSBw
I am running 235/35/19 in the front and 265/30/19 in the rear so they should fit with the correct offset and tires (tires vary in size and shape from manufacturer to manufacturer, for example a toyo 235/35/19 could fit but a michellen 235/35/19 won't)

You have the correct offsets, please let us know if they do fit. Those are some SICK rims!

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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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I am running 235/35/19 in the front and 265/30/19 in the rear so they should fit with the correct offset and tires (tires vary in size and shape from manufacturer to manufacturer, for example a toyo 235/35/19 could fit but a michellen 235/35/19 won't)

You have the correct offsets, please let us know if they do fit. Those are some SICK rims!
ok thanks for the info, I only buy michellen super sport for tires. I give adv my specs and they built the rim. i ask about 18's but they only make a 18x8.5 and a 18x12 which as you know is much to wide. Im just on the fence a litte because they are quite pricey.
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ok thanks for the info, I only buy michellen super sport for tires. I give adv my specs and they built the rim. i ask about 18's but they only make a 18x8.5 and a 18x12 which as you know is much to wide. Im just on the fence a litte because they are quite pricey.
how much do they want if you don't mind me asking?
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Old May 20, 2011 | 06:11 AM
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Real tire dimension do not depend on manufacturer but on single tire model and size. Sometimes you will find more than 1'' difference in width with same tire model but next size.
Maybe manufacturers produce tires of different dimension with same molding form exchanging labels only.
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how much do they want if you don't mind me asking?

the adv5.1 are $1500 each rim but there is also another wheel called forgestar CF5 which look somewhat the same and they are $340 each and they build the rim to your specs as well, but the adv5.1 has the deepest concave in the middle of the rim, it is so deep it reminds me of a lambo wheel.
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
the adv5.1 are $1500 each rim but there is also another wheel called forgestar CF5 which look somewhat the same and they are $340 each and they build the rim to your specs as well, but the adv5.1 has the deepest concave in the middle of the rim, it is so deep it reminds me of a lambo wheel.



I feel you on the concave part, I really have been diggin the concave look lately.
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the forgestars are a great wheel BUT they aren't hubcentric. you have to use an aluminum centering ring which put me off buying them
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the forgestars are a great wheel BUT they aren't hubcentric. you have to use an aluminum centering ring which put me off buying them
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Old May 21, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
will adv5.1 rims that are 19x8.5 225/35/19 and 19x9.5 265/30/19 fit on my car? it is dropped 1.2". Also what kind of offset would I need in front and back? I was thinking 30mm front and 35 in back.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...EofQsAPuqtSSBw
FYI in the pictures that you linked, most are the flowspec wheels if not all of them. The flowspec wheel is the Niche (brand) Sport (model). You can pick up those wheels for $1200-$1400 for all 4 The center caps say Niche but thats the only difference
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FYI in the pictures that you linked, most are the flowspec wheels if not all of them. The flowspec wheel is the Niche (brand) Sport (model). You can pick up those wheels for $1200-$1400 for all 4 The center caps say Niche but thats the only difference
Here’s an email sent to someone a while ago regarding the subject:

Dealer,

This email was forwarded to me from a potential customer you we’re in contact with. As you know they contacted you in reference to our new cast wheels.
No need for me to get into a long drawn out email about specifics, it’s pretty clear for everyone to see what you’re trying to do. Before offering these “half off” wheels to your potential clients you should be sure about what you’re selling as you can not get this wheel from MHT despite what you may have heard, the ADV5.1 cast is an ADV.1 design which is authorized for use by MHT for certain applications which we do not cater to. Although you can get the ADV5.1 cast wheel with a niche cap on it for less money, you will not be able to purchase it for any applications that we offer it to, nor can you purchase the deep concave model, as part of an agreement between ADV.1 and MHT in an effort to avoid any cross promotion and / competition. Furthermore, the MHT version is sold for much less as they are manufactured in large quantities using existing molds, where as our deep concave models are low volume pieces which use a specifically designed mold for our deep concave applications. Developments like this are very expensive and take a huge amount of development and effort to get to this stage. As part of our recent agreement with MHT, since the launch of our new Flowspec line, the Niche Sport wheel is now discontinued and the only inventory that is being sold at the present time is leftover part numbers that are in stock. No new shipments of the wheel will be incoming to MHT, only to ADV.1 in our specified part numbers. New styles are also in production for release late 2010.

If you feel that this information is false and would like to verify this, I’ve Bcc’d the staff, owner, and VP of MHT wheels on this email should you have any questions for them.

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Originally Posted by keith954
FYI in the pictures that you linked, most are the flowspec wheels if not all of them. The flowspec wheel is the Niche (brand) Sport (model). You can pick up those wheels for $1200-$1400 for all 4 The center caps say Niche but thats the only difference
the niche sport does not have the same deep concave as the adv5.1 I was thinking of going with adv because they can build the rims so that is fits perfect. With niche im stuck with one size. I though about HRE but I like the adv flowspec a little bit more. Im not sure what to do.
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the forgestars are a great wheel BUT they aren't hubcentric. you have to use an aluminum centering ring which put me off buying them
so the forgestar are junk? Is the aluminum centering ring like a spacer?
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Old May 22, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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Here’s an email sent to someone a while ago regarding the subject:

Dealer,

This email was forwarded to me from a potential customer you we’re in contact with. As you know they contacted you in reference to our new cast wheels.
No need for me to get into a long drawn out email about specifics, it’s pretty clear for everyone to see what you’re trying to do. Before offering these “half off” wheels to your potential clients you should be sure about what you’re selling as you can not get this wheel from MHT despite what you may have heard, the ADV5.1 cast is an ADV.1 design which is authorized for use by MHT for certain applications which we do not cater to. Although you can get the ADV5.1 cast wheel with a niche cap on it for less money, you will not be able to purchase it for any applications that we offer it to, nor can you purchase the deep concave model, as part of an agreement between ADV.1 and MHT in an effort to avoid any cross promotion and / competition. Furthermore, the MHT version is sold for much less as they are manufactured in large quantities using existing molds, where as our deep concave models are low volume pieces which use a specifically designed mold for our deep concave applications. Developments like this are very expensive and take a huge amount of development and effort to get to this stage. As part of our recent agreement with MHT, since the launch of our new Flowspec line, the Niche Sport wheel is now discontinued and the only inventory that is being sold at the present time is leftover part numbers that are in stock. No new shipments of the wheel will be incoming to MHT, only to ADV.1 in our specified part numbers. New styles are also in production for release late 2010.

If you feel that this information is false and would like to verify this, I’ve Bcc’d the staff, owner, and VP of MHT wheels on this email should you have any questions for them.
you think 18x10 would work for the rear?
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
you think 18x10 would work for the rear?
Perhaps if you massage the fenders a little, I have 9.5 in the rear and I would estimate that there MIGHT be a 1/2 inch left between the rim and the fender but it is probably less than that.

You don't think 265 in the rear will be enough???
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so the forgestar are junk? Is the aluminum centering ring like a spacer?
not junk but built for a wider range of hubs and the mercedes needs to be hubcentric so they add a centering ring. its done on many wheels but im not a fan of adding pieces when a proper wheel can be built. its a cost factor. for me im willing to spend more to have it done right
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Originally Posted by amgmaster4343
you think 18x10 would work for the rear?
Depends on your offset and tire...
An offset of 30-35 should be good. With tires 255/35 you might have less trouble (cut a little the Plastic of the rear bumper).
If you want to go wider (265-285) you probably need to cut the metal, because with rolling the fenders you can not enlarge your fenders at the edge between fenders and bumper if you dunt cut the metal that goes into the wheel housing under 90°.
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so I think if I have to have the ADV5.1 i would have to get the 18x8.5 in the front and 18x12 in the back, and then send my 18x12's to this place...
http://www.weldcraftwheels.com/index-1.html and have them cut to be 18x9 or 9.5
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