cm60k

Im soo soo sorry, that was almost "3" years my friend, i don’t have that good memory,,

As i remember: "2" connectors & "3" wires had replaced,, but im still NOT sure about that,,

I can’t give you an info. that i doubt about it......

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amg4.3

Zayed if you cant remeber my friend then am stuck as i was following your instructions on this mod

cm60k

I know how hard the situation you force now,, many many different models & wires type in each of MB production between (1998 to 2006),,

You want me to confirm something that i can’t even know,, your car is far away from me, and i don’t know even which version of wiring you have, me & my friend got the same 1998 C43s, when i removed the wires, i noticed he got some different wiring from TCU to the Tip it self, and also he got "2" Extra wires (red & green) that connects to the Tip, but I DON’T HAVE THOSE EXTRA WIRES IN MY CAR, although we HAVE THE SAME 98 C43, and everything else are the same,,

I hope you got my point my freind......

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amg4.3

Zayed if i take pics of wires near the shifter it might trigger your memory what you think?

cm60k

It might be,, I don’t want you to loose your time,,

that’s why i asked my friend here to bring his car to me,, i'm waiting him....

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whipplem104

The PRND4321 shifter will not have CAN wires at all. Or a stop lamp input or WOT detent. Actually the reverse lights are the only wires there that I would use. All the other wires go to the etc module for shifter recognition. I would start fresh and wire in the new shifter with new wires other than the reverse lights.

amg4.3

Pin connector 1

Pin 1 BLACK/RED

Pin 2 BLUE/ WHITE

amg4.3

Connector 2 PART NO 202 440 46 08

PIN 1 PINK/RED
PIN 2 PURPLE
PIN 3 BROWN
PIN 4 WHITE
PIN 5 BLUE
PIN 6 BLANK
PIN 7 GREY/BLUE
PIN 8 BLANK
PIN 9 GREEN
PIN 10 YELLOW

amg4.3

Connector3

Couldn't see which number pins the colours belong to as i couldn't take the connector out, colours on the connector are BLUE/BLACK and two wires which are both GREY/YELLOW

whipplem104

So, Connector 1 is R/P lock out. No longer needed.
Connector 2 is the range switch wires to the etc for selector position. No longer needed. Although pin 7 gy/bl is 58d and can be used. Pin 3, brown is ground.
COnnector 3 is reverse lights. gy/ye is to the lamps and bk/bu is power in.

amg4.3

Zayed has anything jogged your memory?

cm60k

Thankss for the pics.,

Those wires & connectors Exactly like mine,, but as i suspect: my friends car has a different wiring,, it has different shape & it has a green instead of Blue/White in connector "1", and doesn’t has Red/Pink & Blue in connector "2", and Red/Green instead of Blue/Black in connector "3",,

We change the Red/Green from pin #27 to the pin #34 & Purple pin #10 to the pin#29 & White pin #25 to the pin#38,, all that changed was done in my friends car,,

I didn’t do that swap in my car, cause i noticed the difference wires compared to my friends, it may works with you, but important to know if the different colours not means that swap can’t be done,,

The part # you mentioned "202 440 46 08",, for a complete Gear Harness.....

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amg4.3

The part number was on the gear harness. Zayed the pins numbers you are on about are they on tcu? As pin numbers on shifter side only go upto pin 10.

So haven't you done this in your car?

cm60k

As i told,, i done that to my friends C43,,

Yes the swap done to the TCU ID pins,, but in the shifter, we changed the Reverse speed & Recognition connector......

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amg4.3

Ok you did that on your friends car. Your wiring in your car is like mine so what you did in your car is what i need to do in mine thats it.

cm60k

That’s why i need my friends car here, to insure what Exactly need to do that swap in proper way,, i have a different wire colors, that need to be careFUL how to deal with that different colors,, as you know: Electrical things needs more focus to identify the correct swapping,,

Believe me: im interesting more than you, but that needs more research for the wiring diagram & little patience....

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amg4.3

I understand is your friend back from holiday? I was hoping to put the linking rod and shift rod in tomorrow

amg4.3

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amg4.3

have recieved some more parts today shifting rod, linkage and wire cable are all here. I was expecting the cable to be wiring harness but its a cable? i thought part ordered was wiring harness to show gears in gauge cluster?

cm60k

When done that swap, im soo sure there’re an ID wire contact to the ignition-lock cable,, i went to the dealer that day to identify that cable, they said the cable comes with attached wire for the gear ID position,, i doubt about that, cause i almost sure that ID screen should comes from the TCU during to the Tip, to recognizing the Exact position in the Cluster,, its not that problem,, cause you will definitely need that cable to lock the ignition after swap,,

I think that’s maybe why the replaced from "202 267 03 64 to 203 267 00 64", to separate them,, i should thank you to clear that,, as i remember i saw that wire attached to the cable it self.....

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amg4.3

So will we need another wiring loom which carries this info? But zayed if this info is available on the can bus network do we really need wiring to the cluster?

So that cable connects to the ignition lock?

cm60k

NO, the wire should not has any related with a Cluster ID, it should comes from the TCU during to the Tip shifter, and it could be from the CAN bus signal, not so sure about this...,,

I will go to the dealer tomorrow, to ask them about this subject,

I hope they are a people with ears & tongues....

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amg4.3

Lets hope so let me how you get on.

Zayed did you have to change the new shifter housing from the old one? As the new one looks different the bolts dont match up i think only bottom ones match up?

cm60k

Did you compare between them...?,, we change the console & the shifter surround frame....

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amg4.3

I did compare them they are deffinatly different so i have to swap bottom housing aswel?

When you say console do you mean you changed the whole center console?