Confirmation: '99 C43 Xenon upgrade
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Confirmation: '99 C43 Xenon upgrade
Ok, so I've read a million posts and threads on this topic, and there's a lot of information to sort though and I'd like to clarify a couple of points on updating factory halogens to the factory xenon headlights.
My car will have the factory Halogens, so this means that even though it's a '99, it will NOT have the harness or connectors for the self leveling system?
I need to run the 35w xenons, not the 55w?
As long as I can source the factory xenon housings with ignitors, it should be a simple plug/play operation, but without the self leveling system? Is there still a way to manually adjust the light?
You need to update the fuse from 15a to 25a?
Do you actually have to have something changed in the computer to designate that the car now has xenons vs halogens?
I'm a little bummed that it doesn't have the factory option, but the car is a single owner vehicle with '98k on the clock, that I can't pass up.
Look forward to your confirmations
My car will have the factory Halogens, so this means that even though it's a '99, it will NOT have the harness or connectors for the self leveling system?
I need to run the 35w xenons, not the 55w?
As long as I can source the factory xenon housings with ignitors, it should be a simple plug/play operation, but without the self leveling system? Is there still a way to manually adjust the light?
You need to update the fuse from 15a to 25a?
Do you actually have to have something changed in the computer to designate that the car now has xenons vs halogens?
I'm a little bummed that it doesn't have the factory option, but the car is a single owner vehicle with '98k on the clock, that I can't pass up.
Look forward to your confirmations
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Ok, so I've read a million posts and threads on this topic, and there's a lot of information to sort though and I'd like to clarify a couple of points on updating factory halogens to the factory xenon headlights.
My car will have the factory Halogens, so this means that even though it's a '99, it will NOT have the harness or connectors for the self leveling system?
Correct. I personally don't know what sort of computer controls the system, but sensor wise I believe there is just a very simple plastic arm in the passenger wheel well. I doubt it'd be very hard to retrofit
I need to run the 35w xenons, not the 55w?
As far as I know there is only one wattage for the OEM system. If you run aftermarket it is up to you
As long as I can source the factory xenon housings with ignitors, it should be a simple plug/play operation, but without the self leveling system? Is there still a way to manually adjust the light?
Technically yes, but you may run into issues trying to bypass the leveling system. I believe aiming is at least somewhat controlled by the leveling system
You need to update the fuse from 15a to 25a?
Don't know, but that sounds about right
Do you actually have to have something changed in the computer to designate that the car now has xenons vs halogens?
I would imagine so, yes. Also, it would depend on what controls the leveling etc... but if you have to tell the cluster what car it's in, and what tele options it has, I imagine there is an option somewhere for HID or regular lights.
I'm a little bummed that it doesn't have the factory option, but the car is a single owner vehicle with '98k on the clock, that I can't pass up.
Look forward to your confirmations
My car will have the factory Halogens, so this means that even though it's a '99, it will NOT have the harness or connectors for the self leveling system?
Correct. I personally don't know what sort of computer controls the system, but sensor wise I believe there is just a very simple plastic arm in the passenger wheel well. I doubt it'd be very hard to retrofit
I need to run the 35w xenons, not the 55w?
As far as I know there is only one wattage for the OEM system. If you run aftermarket it is up to you
As long as I can source the factory xenon housings with ignitors, it should be a simple plug/play operation, but without the self leveling system? Is there still a way to manually adjust the light?
Technically yes, but you may run into issues trying to bypass the leveling system. I believe aiming is at least somewhat controlled by the leveling system
You need to update the fuse from 15a to 25a?
Don't know, but that sounds about right
Do you actually have to have something changed in the computer to designate that the car now has xenons vs halogens?
I would imagine so, yes. Also, it would depend on what controls the leveling etc... but if you have to tell the cluster what car it's in, and what tele options it has, I imagine there is an option somewhere for HID or regular lights.
I'm a little bummed that it doesn't have the factory option, but the car is a single owner vehicle with '98k on the clock, that I can't pass up.
Look forward to your confirmations
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So basically, it's plug and play, but not that simple of a plug/play operation, mainly due to the leveling system.
*sigh*
Would you pass on a single owner car simply because it didn't have those two options that would in no way effect the driving experience?
*sigh*
Would you pass on a single owner car simply because it didn't have those two options that would in no way effect the driving experience?
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Personally, after owning a C36 the xenons were really nice to have. Realistically, they're not a ton better, and when they screw up, which mine almost always have, they're stupidly pricey. I would not pass on an otherwise good car because of it though. There are many good xenon and bi-xenon kits out there to replicate the look and visibility, plus they will be a ton cheaper to fix. If you have oodles of time to search for the perfect C43 (i.e. months or a year+ even) , and that's all you want, I would wait, but in every other scenario the one you've found seems great.
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That's kind of the decision I've come to, buy the car, because it's an otherwise pristine example of a C43. The missing options won't affect the performance or comfort of the car that much, I've just gotten used to these features in my current car.
Worse case, I buy this one, and if I'm either not able to live with it, or find another one down the road, buy that one and sell this one.
Thank you for your objective input
Worse case, I buy this one, and if I'm either not able to live with it, or find another one down the road, buy that one and sell this one.
Thank you for your objective input
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I did the upgrade on both a 94 C280 and a 96 C36. The Ballast in these cars is located behind the bumper so make sure to get this external part.
Ok, so I've read a million posts and threads on this topic, and there's a lot of information to sort though and I'd like to clarify a couple of points on updating factory halogens to the factory xenon headlights.
My car will have the factory Halogens, so this means that even though it's a '99, it will NOT have the harness or connectors for the self leveling system?
Correct, the self leveling harness will not be there
I need to run the 35w xenons, not the 55w?
OEM is 35W and can't answer your question regarding running 55W with the OEM Ballast and Ignitor
As long as I can source the factory xenon housings with ignitors, it should be a simple plug/play operation, but without the self leveling system?
The self leveling system uses a separate harness and connectors. The lights will run fine without the self leveling
Is there still a way to manually adjust the light?
There are manual adjustments just like you halogen lights to aim properly after installation
You need to update the fuse from 15a to 25a?
Yes, the initial startup creates a surge in the power draw and you will blow the 15A fuse
Do you actually have to have something changed in the computer to designate that the car now has xenons vs halogens?
On the 94 and 96 no coding is required
I'm a little bummed that it doesn't have the factory option, but the car is a single owner vehicle with '98k on the clock, that I can't pass up.
I wouldn't pass up a good car just over lighting options, but that is me.
Look forward to your confirmations
My car will have the factory Halogens, so this means that even though it's a '99, it will NOT have the harness or connectors for the self leveling system?
Correct, the self leveling harness will not be there
I need to run the 35w xenons, not the 55w?
OEM is 35W and can't answer your question regarding running 55W with the OEM Ballast and Ignitor
As long as I can source the factory xenon housings with ignitors, it should be a simple plug/play operation, but without the self leveling system?
The self leveling system uses a separate harness and connectors. The lights will run fine without the self leveling
Is there still a way to manually adjust the light?
There are manual adjustments just like you halogen lights to aim properly after installation
You need to update the fuse from 15a to 25a?
Yes, the initial startup creates a surge in the power draw and you will blow the 15A fuse
Do you actually have to have something changed in the computer to designate that the car now has xenons vs halogens?
On the 94 and 96 no coding is required
I'm a little bummed that it doesn't have the factory option, but the car is a single owner vehicle with '98k on the clock, that I can't pass up.
I wouldn't pass up a good car just over lighting options, but that is me.
Look forward to your confirmations
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Oh, that's fine then, that's what I was worried about. So basically:
Source xenon headlight housings with ballasts
Install headlight housings with ballasts
Change fuse
Enjoy xenon?
Source xenon headlight housings with ballasts
Install headlight housings with ballasts
Change fuse
Enjoy xenon?
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I don't think this is for the right bulb type, but has anyone ever used one of these in conjunction with the halogen housing, with a xenon lens to provide the correct cutoff?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Caspers-Electronics-103016-HID-Shield-for-H4-/200810572121?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item2ec13e2959&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Caspers-Electronics-103016-HID-Shield-for-H4-/200810572121?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item2ec13e2959&vxp=mtr
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You are talking $1,200+ to do this conversion. You will need the ballast, bulbs, and glass (leveling system optional).
I would suggest going with the glass and a nice morimoto 3five or 5five set up and save yourself $800+
I would suggest going with the glass and a nice morimoto 3five or 5five set up and save yourself $800+
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If just the lens helps to eliminate glare, then that's good.
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Thanks Jason, I'm about to sign a deal on a really clean '99 C43, only 93K on the clock, essentially a single owner car. The only downside is the lack of the auto wipers (I've read these can be retrofit) and xenon. I'm fine with manual adjustments, as well as just doing the glass, but more concerned with the bulb cutoff line and not getting excessive glare for oncoming drivers.
If just the lens helps to eliminate glare, then that's good.
If just the lens helps to eliminate glare, then that's good.
http://kropf.net/w202/headlamps/
His name on here is Kropf
Hope this helps
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Amazing information, thanks Jason! I'll let ya know as soon as I get him home, love to meet up.
I've seen a silver, lowered on 18" monoblock IIs in the NW area of Portland, do you know if they're on here as well?
I've seen a silver, lowered on 18" monoblock IIs in the NW area of Portland, do you know if they're on here as well?
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Ah, THIS is what I've been looking for. Enough searching, and you shall find.
Imagine they'll be a bit more expensive to have shipped over, but if I do the whole kit shipping is free:
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7r-anti-gla...hid-bulbs.html
H7 HID bulb WITH their own patented glare shield to prevent light from reflecting off of the bottom of the headlight housing.
So, lenses, these bulbs and the ballast kit and I'm set.
Imagine they'll be a bit more expensive to have shipped over, but if I do the whole kit shipping is free:
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7r-anti-gla...hid-bulbs.html
H7 HID bulb WITH their own patented glare shield to prevent light from reflecting off of the bottom of the headlight housing.
So, lenses, these bulbs and the ballast kit and I'm set.
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Perhaps on another year, but my 98 does not have Xenons and I have the auto sensing wiper.
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Yes, I have headlight wipers. I may be wrong, but I don't think HID's were an option in 98