Switching teams for the weekend...
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And as I said earlier, limiting the M3 to an auto four door is like limiting the Mercedes to a C280 Sport because BMW did not offer a V8 in the 3 series. Both companies had the options to bring whatever they wanted to market and they did and any comparison between the two is absolutely fair.
And finally, if a manual transmission Camry is fun to drive, would you trade your C43 for one? Perhaps it makes it more engaging, but I don't think it necessarily makes it fun. I think driving a 6 speed manual Jeep Wrangler is miserable and I've driven quite a few of those. The immediacy of the response in this car was beyond just the throttle; it was the brakes, the steering, etc.
So no, I don't think anything was ignored. If you read the whole thing, it was addressed.
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But that is exactly the point. BMW gave the customer the choice. Mercedes did not. That is a point for BMW. And before anyone goes on and on about tradition and Mercedes doesn't offer manuals, etc, I have personally seen an early 80's 560SEC AMG from Rick Hendrick's personal collection that has a manual transmission. The 190E Cossie's were offered with both manual and auto transmissions. The 300SL Gullwing had a four speed manual. The 'auto is better' philosophy of Mercedes, especially in regards to their performance cars, didn't come about until the early 90's and has lasted until the last few years as they have started transitioning over to dual clutch transmissions.
And as I said earlier, limiting the M3 to an auto four door is like limiting the Mercedes to a C280 Sport because BMW did not offer a V8 in the 3 series. Both companies had the options to bring whatever they wanted to market and they did and any comparison between the two is absolutely fair.
And finally, if a manual transmission Camry is fun to drive, would you trade your C43 for one? Perhaps it makes it more engaging, but I don't think it necessarily makes it fun. I think driving a 6 speed manual Jeep Wrangler is miserable and I've driven quite a few of those. The immediacy of the response in this car was beyond just the throttle; it was the brakes, the steering, etc.
So no, I don't think anything was ignored. If you read the whole thing, it was addressed.
And as I said earlier, limiting the M3 to an auto four door is like limiting the Mercedes to a C280 Sport because BMW did not offer a V8 in the 3 series. Both companies had the options to bring whatever they wanted to market and they did and any comparison between the two is absolutely fair.
And finally, if a manual transmission Camry is fun to drive, would you trade your C43 for one? Perhaps it makes it more engaging, but I don't think it necessarily makes it fun. I think driving a 6 speed manual Jeep Wrangler is miserable and I've driven quite a few of those. The immediacy of the response in this car was beyond just the throttle; it was the brakes, the steering, etc.
So no, I don't think anything was ignored. If you read the whole thing, it was addressed.
