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Anyone here have their car tuned by eurocharged?
I have an appointment in April, getting mine tuned on the dyno, hope it's worth it, couldn't pass up the opportunity.
I have an appointment in April, getting mine tuned on the dyno, hope it's worth it, couldn't pass up the opportunity.
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Right, but I was just looking for feedback from anyone here or especially anyone with the 5.4 motor in their 98-99 c43.
Or could you give me any info if you've done this and what the results were? I'm already paid up for the Minneapolis dyno tune in April. Thanks.
Or could you give me any info if you've done this and what the results were? I'm already paid up for the Minneapolis dyno tune in April. Thanks.
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Sending my ecu this Monday. Had to do it since they charged me $300.00 which is great.
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I've never seen anyone actually post a before/after dyno result from these ECU tunes, so I remain very skeptical if they have any real affect. These are late 90's ME2.0 naturally aspirated Mercedes engines, so I have always doubted there was very much to discover in ECU tuning.
Some people have done it and then posted about how the car "felt" faster but I don't believe stuff like that. I mean, how many of us here can reset our TCU and make the car feel way faster and more alive until it re-learns our driving style again. Nothing will lie to you like the butt dyno.
I would expect speed43's custom air box and elbow would deliver better results for the money.
Some people have done it and then posted about how the car "felt" faster but I don't believe stuff like that. I mean, how many of us here can reset our TCU and make the car feel way faster and more alive until it re-learns our driving style again. Nothing will lie to you like the butt dyno.
I would expect speed43's custom air box and elbow would deliver better results for the money.
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I've never seen anyone actually post a before/after dyno result from these ECU tunes, so I remain very skeptical if they have any real affect. These are late 90's ME2.0 naturally aspirated Mercedes engines, so I have always doubted there was very much to discover in ECU tuning.
Some people have done it and then posted about how the car "felt" faster but I don't believe stuff like that. I mean, how many of us here can reset our TCU and make the car feel way faster and more alive until it re-learns our driving style again. Nothing will lie to you like the butt dyno.
I would expect speed43's custom air box and elbow would deliver better results for the money.
Some people have done it and then posted about how the car "felt" faster but I don't believe stuff like that. I mean, how many of us here can reset our TCU and make the car feel way faster and more alive until it re-learns our driving style again. Nothing will lie to you like the butt dyno.
I would expect speed43's custom air box and elbow would deliver better results for the money.
My problem right now is I can't get the plugs from the ecu off. I took off the top clips, but when I pull up they won't come out. I emailed Zayed and asked if I have to pull the plugs up real hard or if they slide to the side than up. Don't want to force it up just in case they slide somehow. There's no room to slide actually so has to be pulled up. Just want to be sure before forcing the plugs wires up real hard.
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I was just reading about these ecu tunes than got an email and read your post. You're right according to what I've read so far. It was mentioned that with more air intake the ecu tune would give better results than stock intake. My air box I would guess takes in 3X more air than stock. Than I have the maf housing ported and the elbow as well as the throttle body inlet (thanks to PjMack for sending me a TB to work on). So I'm pretty sure the ecu tune will help my car greatly.
My problem right now is I can't get the plugs from the ecu off. I took off the top clips, but when I pull up they won't come out. I emailed Zayed and asked if I have to pull the plugs up real hard or if they slide to the side than up. Don't want to force it up just in case they slide somehow. There's no room to slide actually so has to be pulled up. Just want to be sure before forcing the plugs wires up real hard.
My problem right now is I can't get the plugs from the ecu off. I took off the top clips, but when I pull up they won't come out. I emailed Zayed and asked if I have to pull the plugs up real hard or if they slide to the side than up. Don't want to force it up just in case they slide somehow. There's no room to slide actually so has to be pulled up. Just want to be sure before forcing the plugs wires up real hard.
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Hey Jorge. I initially asked how much but I forgot that you weren't doing anymore mods for C43's. I then changed my words asking where you added an inlet as I didn't want to set off a bombardment of requests for you to modify everyone's. My C43 is still hibernating for another month as we had a brutal winter with a lot of snow and freezing rain. The roads were covered with salt and sand.
I have my TB that I can port and send that to you. Or you can send me yours, up to you. I also have the elbow and maf housing already so all I need is the TB. $145.00 with your TB and shipping costs, I now ship with FedEx ground because I've had bad experience with usps. pm or email if you want to proceed. Thanks.
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im interested in the dyno tune results as well. i keep thinking about getting one for both my cars. it would have to be the dyno tune though, they can adjust for small things better that they see in the A/F i would assume that way vs a mail order tune.
I dont necessarily doubt that the tune might net gains over the larger airbox and porting, but the only reason i think that is because they can adjust the tune to run off of 93 octane. the car is setup to run 91, but 91 is not available almost anywhere in the states, so we all run 93 without being tuned properly for it. outside of that im not sure where much gains can be had, but im no expert, but i just know some HP cain definitely be gained from 91-93 octane if tuned properly.
i plan to have my CLK55 on a dyno to test power this season, then maybe late in the season i get a dyno tune as well and really get some good results.
any more details on eurocharged group buys or dyno tune specials? i see you mentioned one in april?
I dont necessarily doubt that the tune might net gains over the larger airbox and porting, but the only reason i think that is because they can adjust the tune to run off of 93 octane. the car is setup to run 91, but 91 is not available almost anywhere in the states, so we all run 93 without being tuned properly for it. outside of that im not sure where much gains can be had, but im no expert, but i just know some HP cain definitely be gained from 91-93 octane if tuned properly.
i plan to have my CLK55 on a dyno to test power this season, then maybe late in the season i get a dyno tune as well and really get some good results.
any more details on eurocharged group buys or dyno tune specials? i see you mentioned one in april?
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I was just reading about these ecu tunes than got an email and read your post. You're right according to what I've read so far. It was mentioned that with more air intake the ecu tune would give better results than stock intake. My air box I would guess takes in 3X more air than stock. Than I have the maf housing ported and the elbow as well as the throttle body inlet (thanks to PjMack for sending me a TB to work on). So I'm pretty sure the ecu tune will help my car greatly.
My problem right now is I can't get the plugs from the ecu off. I took off the top clips, but when I pull up they won't come out. I emailed Zayed and asked if I have to pull the plugs up real hard or if they slide to the side than up. Don't want to force it up just in case they slide somehow. There's no room to slide actually so has to be pulled up. Just want to be sure before forcing the plugs wires up real hard.
My problem right now is I can't get the plugs from the ecu off. I took off the top clips, but when I pull up they won't come out. I emailed Zayed and asked if I have to pull the plugs up real hard or if they slide to the side than up. Don't want to force it up just in case they slide somehow. There's no room to slide actually so has to be pulled up. Just want to be sure before forcing the plugs wires up real hard.
I'll post results and yes there will be before and after. I have some light modifications besides the 5.4 so it might not be typical gains for mail order tune on a stock 5.4 swap but in the ballpark I'm sure.
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It sounds like you're having trouble with the ESP connectors. You slide part of the connector over, away from the module which raises the whole connector up. The ME (engine) is on the backside of the ESP.
I'll post results and yes there will be before and after. I have some light modifications besides the 5.4 so it might not be typical gains for mail order tune on a stock 5.4 swap but in the ballpark I'm sure.
I'll post results and yes there will be before and after. I have some light modifications besides the 5.4 so it might not be typical gains for mail order tune on a stock 5.4 swap but in the ballpark I'm sure.
Turned out that my ecu has two T25 bolts, one on each side. You can't get to them unless you remove a small Phillip screw on the right side of the plastic bracket. This screw holds the whole bracket of the ecu and that other ESP box. Both will not raise up unless this little screws is removed. Once I did that I was able to raise the whole thing up and had access to the T25 bolts. Once those were removed the ecu came out.
Of course this was after I removed the connectors and some other wires that prevented the whole bracket to come up to have access to the T25 bolts. Just called eurocharged and they said my ecu is on the table waiting tune. A gtr is ahead of me at the moment. So maybe tomorrow I MIGHT get it or for sure Friday. They did tell me if they get the ecu by 12pm they will ship same day. My ecu was delivered 10:42 Am. So hopefully tomorrow.
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Good job Geo.,
i don't have those two T25 bolts on mine..!,
looks like U.S model is differ than Euro or Japan, or depend of the spec. of the car..!!
Thanks for sharing..
-;ZAYED;-
i don't have those two T25 bolts on mine..!,
looks like U.S model is differ than Euro or Japan, or depend of the spec. of the car..!!
Thanks for sharing..
-;ZAYED;-
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It was very simple once I did it. Before touching it I was so lost. Every forum kept instructing to pull up the ecu. And I was like why is mine so hard! Sometimes you can only read and ask around than you have to use your own brain and figure things out. Glad I had your help and PjMack or my brain would not have succeeded on it's own.
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Yeah they got the Phillips and then the torx on the base plate that both modules are on. Disconnect each and remove whole assy and take modules off on the bench
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Well for anyone doubting the benefits of a custom tune after a motor swap, I gained 25hp and 40 torque from baseline pull. At the wheels.
Car ran great before but it's real great now. It was a bit lean at baseline, 13.7:1
Car ran great before but it's real great now. It was a bit lean at baseline, 13.7:1
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is it harmful in the long run to use the stock c43 ECU with 5.4L swap, meaning slowly killing cats with a lean fuel mixture?
cats will eventually fail when they get worn and old or clogged/poisoned from poor fuel quality, however will c43 ECU/5.4L swap help cats die a premature death running stock c43 ECU?
you are an MB tech, do you know if this is a possible issue?
how much is a Eurocharged custom tune?
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No, it was 13.7:1 when the car came in. After the tune about 12.0:1.
13.7 is a bit lean but not enough to hurt cats. What will really kill them is way too rich. I've seen cats glowing red from being way too rich. Rich might mean a cool combustion but doesn't mean cool cats, the fuel continues to burn. It was $800 for me.
13.7 is a bit lean but not enough to hurt cats. What will really kill them is way too rich. I've seen cats glowing red from being way too rich. Rich might mean a cool combustion but doesn't mean cool cats, the fuel continues to burn. It was $800 for me.
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thanks for explanation.
most people run their stock c43 ECU with 5.4L engine swap, they never bothered to tamper the ECU because a custom tune up costs from $500 - 800 bucks which is expensive.
people decided saving money???
main thing is that if doing the 5.4L engine swap, cats won't get screwed up running stock c43 ECU.
people can enjoy their rides for many years ahead with this engine modification without worrying about anything
most people run their stock c43 ECU with 5.4L engine swap, they never bothered to tamper the ECU because a custom tune up costs from $500 - 800 bucks which is expensive.
people decided saving money???
main thing is that if doing the 5.4L engine swap, cats won't get screwed up running stock c43 ECU.
people can enjoy their rides for many years ahead with this engine modification without worrying about anything
