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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 09:42 AM
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Good morning all, I heard there was some discussion on the manifolds so I popped in to check out the thread. To be clear, my engine came out of a clk55. We kept the intake manifold that came with the engine when we did the swap, so my dyno numbers reflect a change in the airbox only. The 283/283 numbers were with the C43 airbox, the 295/335 numbers were with the w203 c55 airbox. The intake manifold, I'm referring to the plenum between the cylinder heads, remains the same. I hope this clears up any confusion.
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 09:56 AM
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Ah, Good point,,

Thanks for clarification..

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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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Hard to believe the c55 air box made 52 pounds of torque. 12HP I believe but not the TQ. There's been dynos on that box vs renntech and renntech made 10HP and 10-12TQ more. I tested that box on my c43 and really didn't notice to much difference. After modifying it than I did notice and improvement but not 52TQ improvement.

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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 10:47 AM
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I had both the original manifold that came on the ml55 motor and currently have the stock c43 manifold. No differences.


For those that felt the differences, are you sure one of the manifolds wasnt clogged up bad or malfunctioning???

The manifold I passed on to speed43 which he ported out is a ml55 manifold
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 10:49 AM
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Kinda right Geo.,

I installed Evo-sport pulleys+air filters, barely gains (9Hp)..!

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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex33
Good morning all, I heard there was some discussion on the manifolds so I popped in to check out the thread. To be clear, my engine came out of a clk55. We kept the intake manifold that came with the engine when we did the swap, so my dyno numbers reflect a change in the airbox only. The 283/283 numbers were with the C43 airbox, the 295/335 numbers were with the w203 c55 airbox. The intake manifold, I'm referring to the plenum between the cylinder heads, remains the same. I hope this clears up any confusion.
Thats honestly low numbers for a 5.4 even stock
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Old Aug 4, 2017 | 05:06 PM
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Hi again, I agree that the tq number is outside of the normal standard deviation. I certainly did not expect that much of a gain so it is very likely I was down on power in the beginning. Either way, now it appears to be in line with what a stock 203 c55 makes based on dyno sheets from the 203 c55 section on this forum.
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Old Apr 21, 2018 | 02:05 AM
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Got the new intake manifold being installed on thursday, along with new Bosch knock sensors.

These intakes a very light weight considering the size!

i bought a brand new Pierburg from USA.
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These intakes a very light weight considering the size!
Yeah, cause they're "Magnesium" not Alloy, inst..

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Old Apr 23, 2018 | 09:26 AM
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Yeah, cause they're "Magnesium" not Alloy, inst..

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Yep, i know

Anyone that has ever handled a genuine Callaway Corvette DYMAG wheel fitted to the C4 Callaways will have noticed just how light they are for the same reason, when compared with the GM A-Molds, which were pretty light weight too.

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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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New intake manifold installed last week along with new knock sensors, the other intake manifold had a vac leak and also the linkage for the flaps was worn, so on side was shutting, but the left bank was not shutting all the way.

Its made a big difference!
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Old Apr 29, 2018 | 11:30 PM
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@PJMak, so did you/do you have a vacuum leak?
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Old May 22, 2019 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex33
Good morning all, I heard there was some discussion on the manifolds so I popped in to check out the thread. To be clear, my engine came out of a clk55. We kept the intake manifold that came with the engine when we did the swap, so my dyno numbers reflect a change in the airbox only. The 283/283 numbers were with the C43 airbox, the 295/335 numbers were with the w203 c55 airbox. The intake manifold, I'm referring to the plenum between the cylinder heads, remains the same. I hope this clears up any confusion.
@Alex33 or anyone else running the 203/209 airbox - how did you do the tubes from the front of the car to the box? I combined a set of C43 and 203/209 tubes - at the front/intake are the C43 tubes and at the airbox the 203/209 tubes . It fits...but I think they are too stiff and not flexing enough with the engine. When I really hammer on the car the box pops loose at the back where it attaches to the T/B. I'm wondering if my "combo" tubes are too stiff b/c where the 203/209 tubes fit inside the C43 tubes. During the 55 swap I did upgrade to new 211 E55K engine mounts - so I don't think that is the issue. I've got some ideas on how to attach the air box more securely but wondering if there is a better option for the intake tubes. The 203/209 box is also closer to the firewall. I could discretely remove some material where the two halves are joined together and gain 1/8" or 3/16" which may help.

(1998 C43 w/ a 2003 CLK55 engine - Wavetrac install starts this week!)
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Old May 22, 2019 | 01:57 PM
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We used trimmed 210 E55 intake tubes on mine.
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Old May 23, 2019 | 02:31 AM
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Talking of intake manifolds, check these ITB for our M113 engines Guess that should improve breathing and I can imagine that with some cams and worked heads we could get some decent extra power
https://www.facebook.com/RennsportFactory/photos/a.1748126268818821/2088111238153654/?type=3&theaterhttp://www.rennsportfactory.co.uk/?f...who6bq5h7SPdmg

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Old May 23, 2019 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Alex33
We used trimmed 210 E55 intake tubes on mine.
Have a picture by chance? I'm guessing the 210 E55 has the same style tubes w/ the square opening and angle as the C43 but longer? So when you cut the oval airbox ends off the 210 55 tubes they were still long enough to fit?

(For those that don't know - the 203/209 55 box has round hose ends at the airbox as well as a different shape at the front.)
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Old May 23, 2019 | 09:22 PM
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Talking of intake manifolds, check these ITB for our M113 engines Guess that should improve breathing and I can imagine that with some cams and worked heads we could get some decent extra power
https://www.facebook.com/RennsportFa...type=3&theater
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thats so crazy, i was told about these intakes today and i see it again here. I want this intake pretty bad though, for the intake noise above all else
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Old May 23, 2019 | 09:38 PM
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what a shame, at almost 8k USD for an ITB set up for the M120 with "Carbon airboxes and trumpets, fly by wire unit, TPS, injectors, shaftless throttles and complete bolt on ECU kits with wiring all available separately." this seems pretty cost prohibitive compared to the power increase you would get. I don't see any vacuum fittings on these drawings or on the photos of finished product for the m120 so id really love to see what work would be needed to make this setup work in our cars, especially considering that they said the car would need an aftermarket ecu to be able to run this.

Speedybenz was on the right track but a copy of the SLS intake would probably be the easiest way to have velocity stacks with a dual throttle body setup but an ITB setup sounds like a lot of work and I dont know how to figure out if it would be worth it to even try

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