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Old Oct 26, 2021 | 10:51 AM
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Hi George,

Yes there was a significant improvement after all the work done.

Have you checked my thread on this work? https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...intenance.html IMO well worth the work. The transmission is nice and smooth and still is today.

Unfortunately don't get to drive "Grandma" much these days, but have been out and around a couple of times during nice weather and summer period and I'll certainly take her out for a long drive before she goes into hibernation sometimes in November or early December depending on salt being on the roads or not.
That's nice to hear. And thanks for the link I will check it out. Need to service the trans for sure. I wish I could leave my cars in the garage l winter like most of you guys. But they are our daily cars all season long.
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 04:30 AM
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That's nice to hear. And thanks for the link I will check it out. Need to service the trans for sure. I wish I could leave my cars in the garage l winter like most of you guys. But they are our daily cars all season long.
My daily is the C63
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 10:24 AM
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Hey man, any luck figuring out the issue with your seat? Im very curious what is causing it
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 01:58 PM
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Hey man, any luck figuring out the issue with your seat? Im very curious what is causing it
Working on a air box for a customer so have not had a chance yet.
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 02:02 PM
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I took the 98 c43 to have the wheels aligned. Came out pretty good but, it pulls a little to the right. The guy that worked on it said he can't get it to align more without lots of work of some kind. Everything in front is pretty much new accept for the shocks. I dont think they have ever been changed.

You guys think maybe that can cause it to pull a bit?
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 02:41 PM
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My guess is it could if one of the shocks is worse than the other which might cause the suspension to sit lower and rebound differently but Im not sure.
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Old Oct 27, 2021 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PJmak
My guess is it could if one of the shocks is worse than the other which might cause the suspension to sit lower and rebound differently but Im not sure.
Sounds good, have to replace soon....thanks Pj.
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 11:28 PM
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I've been chasing this exact problem for years. Pulls to the right on acceleration.

But my wife crashed mine in a way that made it climb up really high so that the left side was 6 feet in the air, like up on 2 wheels in an action movie. Then it came crashing back down onto all 4 wheels.

Point being, all the suspension bushings/arms/etc were completely ruined on the left side of the car. I've been slowly replacing them 1 by 1 for the last 2 months and the problem has been getting less severe. It's much better now that I've replaced ball joints and tie rod ends in the front, all 4 shocks, and 2 of the 5 suspension arms in the rear left wheel. The rest are currently on their way via FedEx. Before all this work the problem was way, way worse.
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Old Oct 28, 2021 | 11:31 PM
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Test: get the rear wheels in the air and see if they move in any direction: up, down, left right, fore and aft, tilt them inwards and outwards. They should be immovable in every direction.
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Old Oct 29, 2021 | 01:09 PM
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Sulaco glad your wife is ok from that accident. And yes I will check those back tires. I also need to replace all the suspension parts in the back.

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Old Nov 8, 2021 | 10:47 AM
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CLUNK SOUND

Since I purchased the car I've had this issue and I had 2 shops check and they could not find the problem.

When I give it gas fast and let go it makes this loud clunk sound, it's like something moves up hard and comes down and hits metal.

It seems to be coming from the rear driver side. Sometimes it happens when the car shifts but not as loud as when I hit the gas fast and let go.

I haven't been able to floor this car to see how fast it performs under full throttle. And that's because that clunk sound is so loud if I try to do that. I changed the trans mount and that did not help.

Motor mounts are brand new and I was told from the seller the flex plates where changed. I did turn the drive shaft by hand and there was just a little play which I believe is normal.

I'm thinking it might be a subframe mount but I don't know how to check that? Any suggestions on this issue?
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Old Nov 8, 2021 | 11:14 AM
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If your motor and transmission mounts are new, the idea of play in the subframe should be investigated.
Have you tried looking into the engine bay and see if the engine moves up and down when giving some short throttle bursts?
Are you 100% certain that the alloy supports which are bolted to the engine and then to the mounts are not broken? I broke one on mine and caused a lot of clunking and banging as the engine was moving around. I'll see if I can find the thread with photos....
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Old Nov 8, 2021 | 11:27 AM
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Daniel thanks. I can tell you 100 perxe t it is not the motor mounts. The sound is for sure in the back of the car. I have an appointment on the 15th with another shop. Hopefully they will find it.
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Old Nov 8, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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Most probably the rear subframe bushes are shot. They do wear out it seems.
Found some videos on YT to give you some ideas and pointers; https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+rear+subframe
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Old Nov 8, 2021 | 03:21 PM
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Sub frame bushings, differential bushings, assorted suspension arm bushings. Could be any of them.
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Thanks Daniel and Sulaco. Hope they are not that hard to do. I will watch those YouTube links today.
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Old Nov 9, 2021 | 10:53 AM
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What about mufflers? If they arent correctly mounted the pipe will hit thw diff housing or the body of the car. Shake the muffler by your hand and see if its making noise.

I dont remember if I suggested this before.
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Originally Posted by PJmak
What about mufflers? If they arent correctly mounted the pipe will hit thw diff housing or the body of the car. Shake the muffler by your hand and see if its making noise.

I dont remember if I suggested this before.
Thanks for the input. It is not the muffler. Everything is nice and tight.
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Old Nov 10, 2021 | 05:42 AM
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Thanks Daniel and Sulaco. Hope they are not that hard to do. I will watch those YouTube links today.
I think, but I'm not 100% sure though, that the differential bushings are a PITA to do with the subframe in the chassis
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Old Nov 15, 2021 | 07:25 PM
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Daniel or anyone else. F you could help with part numbers?

Need:
Sub frame bushings part #
Diff bushings....
Seal for diff...
Oil for the diff..

I got the car today from a local shop. They said it was those bushings. They want for labor $1776 total labor only.

They are also going to change the diff bushings. And reseal the diff as it's leaking.

Price for me is really high. I've read that sub frame could be lowered just a little to do them.

they told me 298 for the diff seal.. that seems high since they will be removing the sub frame so should be easy to access? 10- 12 hours total they said it will take.

What do you guys think, good deal or to much? Also, is it dangerous to drive with the bushings weak like that?
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Daniel or anyone else. F you could help with part numbers?
George, I'll gladly help but for some reason I can no longer get into the MB Parts Information program. It now says that private customers no longer have access I need to look into this pronto and will get back to you asap
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Old Nov 17, 2021 | 08:33 AM
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George, I'll gladly help but for some reason I can no longer get into the MB Parts Information program. It now says that private customers no longer have access I need to look into this pronto and will get back to you asap
Oh ok. Thanks Daniel. Any help you can give is appreciated.
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A mail arrived yesterday from Daimler:"Dear Mr........

Thank you for your request.

The purchase and renewal of Parts Information for private individuals are no longer offered via the Service & Parts network portal.
If you as a private person are interested in Mercedes-Benz Parts, please contact your Mercedes-Benz dealer for trustful advice and purchase.


With best regards

Your product management service & spare parts network portal

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Kind regards,

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I posted this question/issue on a UK Mercedes forum and I obtained several sources that give part # Don't know how they work, but I guess we can always try them out.
https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/epc/mercedes/
https://mercedes.7zap.com/en/eu/fg/car/

George, I found some info for the rear subframe and parts id #: https://mercedes.7zap.com/en/eu/fg/c.../35/0/045/0/0/
This could be for the European version. Don't know if the N. American is different, but I did see two choices for the W202 C43 when opening the 7zap link above. The 202033 is the non N.American sedan and the 202093 is the wagon.
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Daniel this is exactly what I need. Thnk you very much!
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Daniel this is exactly what I need. Thnk you very much!
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