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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 10:44 AM
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I have some issue I would like to find out how to go about fixing them.

1. On my dash where the weather is displayed, it says -30 but it's 60-70 outside. I did order the outside temperature sensor so I will be trying that. But is there another way to adjust that to the right temperature?

SOLVED. Installed a new outside temp sensor and all is good. Including a heat issue I was having.

2. The driver seat does not want to raise UP. Every other way it works perfectly. I checked all the wires I was able to get to. And all was fine. Wanted to ask if anyone ever experienced this and did you fix it? Last thing I will do is remove the seat and see what I could find.

3. I want to replace the rear camber arms. I would like to know if there's a how to for our cars and what tools I will need? I found some videos on youtube but they were not for a c43 or c280. Is it a hard job?

We did replace the front lower control arms and that was a pain but honestly not to bad. I'm guessing the rear camber arms would be easier?

Thanks for any help/info you can provide.

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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 11:33 AM
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First two issues I would tackle with a ECU reset. You can accomplish this by leaving the battery disconnected for at least 20 minutes.


Rear camber arms should be doable with basic tools. You might need alignment afterwards.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by speed43
I have some issue I would like to find out how to go about fixing them.

1. On my dash where the weather is displayed, it says -30 but it's 60-70 outside. I did order the outside temperature sensor so I will be trying that. But is there another way to adjust that to the right temperature?

2. The driver seat does not want to raise UP. Every other way it works perfectly. I checked all the wires I was able to get to. And all was fine. Wanted to ask if anyone ever experienced this and did you fix it? Last thing I will do is remove the seat and see what I could find.

3. I want to replace the rear camber arms. I would like to know if there's a how to for our cars and what tools I will need? I found some videos on youtube but they were not for a c43 or c280. Is it a hard job?

We did replace the front lower control arms and that was a pain but honestly not to bad. I'm guessing the rear camber arms would be easier?

Thanks for any help/info you can provide.
The temperature sensor has most probably died. Mine did and with a new one installed all was well.

For the seat have you checked all the vacuum lines inside? Remove seat back cover and take a look. Oh sorry, just realised it's probably an electrical issue or is there a lever which operates the seat which could be broken or disconnected?

Camber arms are a simple operation. Remove bolt at each end and change arm. You may need a floor jack to support the assembly
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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Thanks guys. I just disconnected the battery both sides for 25 minutes and still don't work.

The switch is in tact so not broken. Really weird I hope someone chimes in with other solutions.

Pj, I was hoping to get some info what size tools I would need. I have bad shoulders so can't lift the car right now to check myself. I want to make sure I have all the tools so when I'm ready to tackle this I wont have to run to the store.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 03:12 PM
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Did the power seat work intermittently before it failed completely? Could be the power seat relay in the trunk. My mom’s 2000 C230K had that issue.

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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by speed43
Thanks guys. I just disconnected the battery both sides for 25 minutes and still don't work.

The switch is in tact so not broken. Really weird I hope someone chimes in with other solutions.

Pj, I was hoping to get some info what size tools I would need. I have bad shoulders so can't lift the car right now to check myself. I want to make sure I have all the tools so when I'm ready to tackle this I wont have to run to the store.
I can say roughly they are at least 14mm wrenches or you can use sockets.

Someone mentioned the seat relay above. It could easily be that but also check nothing is jamming he seat.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chutak
Did the power seat work intermittently before it failed completely? Could be the power seat relay in the trunk. My mom’s 2000 C230K had that issue.

DRBC43AMG’s thread


Thanks for the reply. Seat was working fine. Than one day it would not go up. It goes forward, back tilts etc.. just not UP. I have another c43 so I will swap that relay and see what happens. Thanks.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PJmak
I can say roughly they are at least 14mm wrenches or you can use sockets.

Someone mentioned the seat relay above. It could easily be that but also check nothing is jamming he seat.
Ok I will have sockets and wrenches from 14mm and up.

Seat is not stuck for sure. Going to try relay and see what happens. Thanks.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 05:21 PM
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Ok I will have sockets and wrenches from 14mm and up.

Seat is not stuck for sure. Going to try relay and see what happens. Thanks.
It could be one of the motors then. I remember there is at least one if not two motors down there.

I might even have a spare one if you end up needing it and cant get it locally. Let me know.

Ive taken those seats completely apart a few times. Its not hard at all but it could be challenging if you have shoulder injuries. They do weight quite a bit.

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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 05:35 PM
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Dug up a pic I had from one of my seats. It shows three motors down there. I have a set of spare seats in my garage. Ill see if I can find out which motors are for the up and down function. Im at work now and have plans when I get home.


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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:00 PM
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Dug up a pic I had from one of my seats. It shows three motors down there. I have a set of spare seats in my garage. Ill see if I can find out which motors are for the up and down function. Im at work now and have plans when I get home.

That sounds great. Let me know if one of those motors raise the seat up and I will buy that motor from you.
Thanks pj.

P.s I swapped the relay and still didn't raise the seat.
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Old Oct 19, 2021 | 07:03 PM
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The red arrow shows the side that raises the seat and doesn't work. All other ways I no e that part works fine....
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 10:14 AM
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Could be your entire relay inside the door card, could be oxidation or water ingress causing it not to work?
Do you keep your windows open?

You can carefully pull the relay out if you have MB plastic prying tool which doesn't damage plastic covers, MB dealership sells this tool, it's very handy when you need it.
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 01:45 PM
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Would you be able to swap the door panels from the other side and plug the wires into it? That'll tell you if its something in the door switches.
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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 03:10 PM
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Could be your entire relay inside the door card, could be oxidation or water ingress causing it not to work?
Do you keep your windows open?

You can carefully pull the relay out if you have MB plastic prying tool which doesn't damage plastic covers, MB dealership sells this tool, it's very handy when you need it.
I don't leave the windows open. And I hope the problem is not inside the panel.
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Would you be able to swap the door panels from the other side and plug the wires into it? That'll tell you if its something in the door switches.
Both panels have silicone on the handles to hold them in place. The clips broke... I hope the problem is not in there but will check..
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Doesn't have to be a faulty motor under the seat, most likely it's the seat switch circuit board on the door panel but you don't know until you check everything out?
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Doesn't have to be a faulty motor under the seat, most likely it's the seat switch circuit board on the door panel but you don't know until you check everything out?
Ok I will take off the panel today and see what I find. Thanks.
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You should first check fuses before you pull stuff out.
Might be an easy problem to solve?
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Originally Posted by MattCordell
You should first check fuses before you pull stuff out.
Might be an easy problem to solve?
Bad fuse would mean it wouldn't work at all?

His seat goes up but not as high as it should which means its a matter of something preventing it from getting there.

Could be a switch that is damaged or could be a motor that gets stuck or something thats stuck in the seat. The bottom portion of the seat definitely has areas where things could get stuck. I have taken it apart entirely.

Another thing I would do is have someone operate the switch while you are down under the seat with your head listening for any sounds. If the seat is getting stuck or the motor has broken gears youll probably hear it.
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People put stuff under the seats and stuff could jam into the seat rails.
Someone put a plastic bottle which was crushed between seat rails and f*cked up seat adjustment going back and forth.
There was a thread about it here IIRC?
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I have checked all fuses already. And pj my seat does not go up a little. It won't go up at all. It's stuck at the bottom and won't go up. There is nothing stopping the seat it's all clean and good down there. When I find the problem I will let you guys know.
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Ok so I clicked on the switch and put my ear at the bottom of the seat. And I do hear it clicking down there. So maybe the motor is stuck as PJ mentioned. I'm going to have to remove the seat soon and check it out.
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To Daniel.

When you changed you trans fluid and conductor plate (hope that's the name). Did you notice better performance? Like the car responded better when you press the gas pedal?

I ask because my 99 c43 responds so much better than the 98. Everything is the same accept I have not done the above to the 98. So I'm wondering if that's it...
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To Daniel.

When you changed you trans fluid and conductor plate (hope that's the name). Did you notice better performance? Like the car responded better when you press the gas pedal?

I ask because my 99 c43 responds so much better than the 98. Everything is the same accept I have not done the above to the 98. So I'm wondering if that's it...
Hi George,

Yes there was a significant improvement after all the work done.

Have you checked my thread on this work? https://mbworld.org/forums/c36-amg-c...intenance.html IMO well worth the work. The transmission is nice and smooth and still is today.

Unfortunately don't get to drive "Grandma" much these days, but have been out and around a couple of times during nice weather and summer period and I'll certainly take her out for a long drive before she goes into hibernation sometimes in November or early December depending on salt being on the roads or not.
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